I may leave S'pore one day

last SG · 2006-06-04T00:10:02+00:00

one question: are we living in a socialist country or a facist dictatorship with a capitalist economy? i'd say the latter. level playing field? handicapped?...

oxford mushroom SG

people discriminate you for the same reason Singaporeans discriminate against FT: they take away your jobs

siginah SG

Without making judgements about the validity of those points, I would gladly accept these when compared to the troubles in other parts of the world.

siginah

fymk SG

I don't have that problem overseas. The key element is not everyone will like you whether in singapore and overseas. You just do your best to fit into their culture and do as the romans do .

vito_corleone SG

in a capitalist economy, the job goes to the best man. if you can't swallow this fact then you'd probably like to move to africa to hunt lions and the lot. Laughing

vito_corleone SG

the same reason why some morons that claim they're being discriminated overseas is the same reason why some foreign students are being discriminated against here in singapore. they stick to their own clicks consisting only of their own folk, they blabber away loudly, refuse to adhere and respect local customs and such, refuse to even make an effort to assimilate or at least be more localised even when their own traditions and practices which they might value are not lost in the process.

oxford mushroom SG

And in the same way local students who lose their uni places to better foreign students on scholarships should just shut up and suck thumb? Laughing

Gedanken SG

Hmm. If you’re going somewhere because you like the place, that’s fine. If, on the other hand, you’re going somewhere simply because you don’t like where you are at the moment, you’re off to a bad start.

casino_king SG

Not necessarily. For one thing; you need not spend so many years paying off your housing and car loans. Meaning that you can retire early.

Your children are not unnecesssarily financially burdened.

And ah... you do not have a government that is looking down your shoulders all the time.

pearlie27 SG

yes, i would like to leave this place too!

we're not living here merely existing.

sgdiehard SG

Laughing this is word of wisdom, should serve as good reminder to many here. Thank you.

Rock^Star SG

Yeh gd point! Don't zao for the sake of zao-ing. Open ur eyes and see which country suits u.

Another thing is...I figure I shd set the record staight regarding my first post. I have never said that I will leave now. I may leave S'pore in my 50s or 60s, depending on circumstances. By that time, my parents may not be around anymore. I will also have amassed enough monetary reserves by then to ponder my options.

And for those who have said "bye bye" to me, I can't help but sense a tinge of sarcasm. It's ok Very Happy . We are all shaped and evolved differently as we move along in life.

gohkatkat SG

i am aiming my speech at someone's comments earlier.....not quoting his anyway.....

let me reiterate this point..........the only reason people discriminate against you is beacuse you can't coexist with them.........or whatever kind of rubbish........

let me reinforce my concepts again...........i did remember wanting to join some weirdos from the pacific...............but then again....they weren't prepared to see your UGLY face.....your sotong face.....looks filthy and disgusting........hahahahaha they just throw you back to meet your own skin colour......hahahaha.......what subtle racism.........anyway

i did remember reading a book titled racism in the pacific........the worms from the pacific........and i read this statemet that intrigued me alot........."a quote from the book......not from my filthy mouth okay.......

quote:" the essential rise in racism is due to the fact that there are more than one or two groups of people living a different lifestyle"........

what a fabulous quote from the book of the pacific............

sgdiehard SG

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

Yeh gd point! Don't zao for the sake of zao-ing. Open ur eyes and see which country suits u.

Another thing is...I figure I shd set the record staight regarding my first post. I have never said that I will leave now. I may leave S'pore in my 50s or 60s, [b]depending on circumstances. By that time, my parents may not be around anymore. I will also have amassed enough monetary reserves by then to ponder my options.

And for those who have said "bye bye" to me, I can't help but sense a tinge of sarcasm. It's ok Very Happy . We are all shaped and evolved differently as we move along in life. [/b]

are you anywhere near 50s? too soon to talk about what you "may" do in twenty years time, isn't it? that's why ppl got the impression you are leaving soon.

The way things are going now, not sure what might happen over the next twenty years. Bird flu might wipe out a good part of the world population...hope not.

Rock^Star SG

Ha i know u r disappointed with our largely "fair-weather then zao" attitudes here.

I'm in my late 20s, I'm already embarking on my personal programme to amass reserves. In short, I have an idea how i wana retire. Ur not gonna start when u reach there right? How r u gonna find the money? (unless ur ah sia kia)

Back to my first sentence.....let me assure all SGdiehards that i did not intentionally come to this state of thinking. I'm sure many of us here too. The litmus test is, "Are you willing to carry arms for S'pore if need be?" I am but i'm not willing to be led by the nose in a "monopolistic" country all my life.

Rock^Star SG

Pacific? Sounds like Hawaii? Haha

U see, Gohkatkat, u have ur personal experience here. I'm really sorry to hear of it. U probably will think twice or even thrice abt migration again. As the saying goes, "Once bitten, twice shy"

Is ur judegment of migration then also clouded by this personal experience?

There are places where u migrate, u face discrimination. There are also places where u mingle well. Sometimes when discrimination is deep rooted in a particular country, it can't be helped even if u "do as the Romans do". But there also places where ur integration depends on one's personal character, isn't it? Subjective

casino_king SG

+1 existing to pay off all the loans.... and call that a success! Confused

gohkatkat SG

amuse me........the pacific....please check up the dictionary before you challenge me......that will make me eat my pride .......but the pacific doesn't just consist of hawaii.......your facts are wrong.

oh btw....i didn;'t say which part of the pacific.....you can be right to say pacific.....but i am equally right to say you are wrong there.............sure about migration......i am sure there are tonnes of people who aren't successful also.....they just don;t want to say ..........but let me say this......although i may have some not nice expereiences.....but essentailly i have reflected all my hate back.......want to see how i SMASH my enemies to smitherins....?you won't want to see the horror to my dr jekyll and mr hyde side........trust me..... Laughing

if fact you may revulse at it.......a clue.....give you this website about a blog from a girl.......that will enlighten you a bit.........

http://i-luv-xigua.blogspot.com/2005/09/rewarding-day.html

sgdiehard SG

it is a good thing to start saving now, but with my current salary I can't be amassing reserves. Embarassed I am in my 30s, have seen people got retrenched in their early 40s and never able to find another job, here, in australia and especially in USA. Better save now or later kena retrenched don't know how survive.

I know now I can't and won't migrate, got parents who will not get used to the foreign land, also not sure if I can get a better job there. Not sure about future.

But I do believe that as long as I am holding a singaporean passport, I have to be proud of being a singaporean, and protect singapore when needed. Many things take times to change, but if we decide we have no part in it, now or in the future, then whether things change or not it is of no concern to us. This applies to the political environment as well.

Good luck and best wishes for your future.

Rock^Star SG

Ha ok, don't worry my friend, i'm doing friendly banter with u, no aggression intended whatsoever.

Is Aust considered part of the Pacific? If it is, i must go and brush up my Geog!

gohkatkat SG

ur pathetic;......... Laughing before anyone challenges me to a fight......get the facts right.....as least it might save you from the shame that's humiliating........

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