A Lie

last SG · 2006-05-23T20:21:02+00:00

It is doubtful the tactics of estates upgrading to win electrol support did work. Using public fund selfishly & unfairly, I think the ppl can sue the go...

PRP SG

GCT said the govt would give upgrading projects to opp. wards if the ppl there want it.Well,most ppl want upgrading.Somemore, residents have to vote before upgrading.So the saying "if the ppl support upgrading then they would have it" is mere excuse not to give upgrading to opp. wards.It is a lie.Govt ,be fair!

abao SG

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Atobe SG

Originally posted by PRP:
GCT said the govt would give upgrading projects to opp. wards if the ppl there want it.Well,most ppl want upgrading.Somemore, residents have to vote before upgrading.So the saying "if the ppl support upgrading then they would have it" is mere excuse not to give upgrading to opp. wards.[b]It is a lie.Govt ,be fair![/b]

"most ppl want upgrading" - only if it is FREE, and do not require the HDB heartlander to fork out any more money to pay for the upgrading.

How many ONE and TWO Room HDB dwellers have the opportunity to vote for their upgrading - like having a new lift to be installed that stop on every floor ?

Can the dwellers of ONE and TWO Room HDB units afford to share the cost of such upgrading works ?

Requiring the HDB residents "to vote for upgrading" was merely to take the sting out of the clamour for more space to participate on NATIONAL ISSUES that affect the Lives of Singaporeans.

The "vote for upgrading" is basically a mini-REFERENDUM - and prove that REFERENDUMS are not as expensive as the Ruling Political Party aka the Government has claimed in response to Singaporeans cry for the Minister's Salary to be place on the table for a National Referendum.

Other issues include the passing of legislations that curtailed our Rights that have been enshrined in the Constitution, the passing of legislations that affect our CPF Withdrawals, and the Management of our Reserves - these are amongst a whole list of issues that have been legislated against our Interests.

PRP SG

If the voters support HDB upgrading,they would support PAP.If they don't vote for PAP,they don't support HDB upgrading.This is PAP's reasoning or someone's repeated lies?

PRP SG

IUP is free of charge.For LUP,residents can pay by installment or pay when they sell the flat.

PRP SG

So u don't want fairness in election?

PRP SG

GCT said an estate in Hougang could get upgrading if morethan 60% of the estate residents vote for PAP.Look like he is so persistence in using the bribing tactics.He is not afraid he would go against the law.What do u think?

PRP SG

GCT said there would be no estate upgrading if PAP didn't win the GE.The money for upgrading is not from PAP.If the opposition won the GE,what make him think the new govt can't implement estate upgrading?

hisoka SG

hmm for those pple not in the 2 opposition wards, pls note that by promising to give them the upgrading, it also means he is saying that you place has less chance to be upgraded…...

PRP SG

Hisoka,

As long as the system is fair,no one can protest.

PRP SG

GCT said the opp. words would finally get estate upgrading.He said opp. wards could not be the first but might not be the last.So has he justified the govt policy on estate upgrading?Is he fair-minded?

PRP SG

If GCT is fair,he wouldn't have come out with such policy.

If voters vote for PAP and expect priority in estate upgrading,then the process become a bribery.Is this what the PAP want the voting to become?

The govt's money is public money.The govt wants to spend the money to favour a political party's supporters.Can such a principle be right?

PRP SG

Cancelled this msg myself Smile

PRP SG

I have to answer my question myself.No,it is wrong.Pulbic money can't be used for selfish purpose.

duotiga83 SG

predictable ans... Rolling Eyes

i had enough.....

PRP SG

If u had enuf,then u need not read this thread.

Rolff SG

It's 'INDIRECTLY' kind of $$$ politics

and it goes for the progress package too, that time it just before election. It's legal but it's too obvious

PRP SG

U think my answer is predictable.Do u think PM & ministers know it?

reyes SG

PRP, you are right in your statement. upgrading should be base on needs and not use as a political campaign.
but most singaporean unfortunately tends to be selfish and put itself before country. but think again, are they wrong? election are times where voters hope to get more goodies and promises by their MP.

morally the ruling party is wrong but legally they are alright coz our constitution doesnt say it wrong. who know the rules better then the current ruling party. they wrote it, pass it in parliament and implement it.

dont just blame GCT even though he is the one that started linking upgrading with politics in view of dropping support for the ruling party in previous election. they won decisively in 1997 and 2001 using upgrading as a bait and singaporean bite it. LHL use it, but it work again in 2006.

to be frank, nowadays the ruling party has such great influence on every working mechanism(ministries, private sector) in singapore that even after these 40years, the fear factor still remain in every singaporean life.

who can we blame? the ruling party? it takes two to clap.

Atobe SG

A nation is what the leader mould it to be.

If the citizens of a country start to think selfishly and put its own selfish interest before that of the country, and the National Leaders capitalize on this for their own selfish political gains - and accentuate it further with such narrow political baits offered - then we SHOULD PUT THE BLAME squarely on these National Leaders.