Why are foreign students entitle to S'pore Education grants?

last SG · 2006-03-26T18:03:32+00:00

Truly Singapore has now become a hotel than a home. Alas.

ditzy SG

Remember that scholar from penang who made the TNP last week? Laughing How do explain that anomaly?

charlize SG

Sorry, I did not catch that article.

Care to post the link? Laughing

105090 SG

Hello people.
..at a institute/ in the life science sector..

here, in this lab, i estimate theres 50 workers in this particular lab. 48 are foreigners. out of the 48, at least 35 are from China, usually Shanghai. with the rest a mixed incluiding, india, ang moh, malaysia etc. all are on contract, fortunately.

the 2 singaporeans are on scholaship bond or temporary status.

i asked why the large number of foreigners. its because singapore has too little PhD holders, so bo pian, hire foreign people. when SGP got enough PhD ppl, the foreingers may get out.

still, this is still a sign of job competition, some more this sector is a very high-paying job

gill_hfc SG

If we are handing out $millions in grants to all foreigners who study here, how do we justify increasing university fees for our local student population? we are giving cash to foreigners while local students have to bear the brunt of higher fees. It doesnt make sense to me! something is wrong here. Confused

king108 SG

Originally posted by 105090:
Hello people.
..at a institute/ in the life science sector..

here, in this lab, i estimate theres 50 workers in this particular lab. [b]48 are foreigners. out of the 48, at least 35 are from China, usually Shanghai. with the rest a mixed incluiding, india, ang moh, malaysia etc. all are on contract, fortunately.

Singapore do have PHD, except may no in this field only.

i asked why the large number of foreigners. its because singapore has too little PhD holders, so bo pian, hire foreign people. when SGP got enough PhD ppl, the foreingers may get out.

still, this is still a sign of job competition, some more this sector is a very high-paying job
[/b]

king108 SG

Originally posted by 105090:
Hello people.
..at a institute/ in the life science sector..

here, in this lab, i estimate theres 50 workers in this particular lab. [b]48 are foreigners. out of the 48, at least 35 are from China, usually Shanghai. with the rest a mixed incluiding, india, ang moh, malaysia etc. all are on contract, fortunately.

the 2 singaporeans are on scholaship bond or temporary status.

i asked why the large number of foreigners. its because singapore has too little PhD holders, so bo pian, hire foreign people. when SGP got enough PhD ppl, the foreingers may get out.

still, this is still a sign of job competition, some more this sector is a very high-paying job
[/b]

There may be field where it is new or cold that no singaporean wanted to go for PHD. If you say singapore got no PHD, I think it is not right.
If not PHD in a science field, I may agree with you

king108 SG

In the first place, why should they be given grants.

They are not even us. Or had contributed to our society.

Tell them go home.

Else get scholarship, if really so good with our local scholar.

NewAge SG

Jobs are created due to the demand. When demand exist supply will come in time. Using foreigner to fill up jobs first will erase away the demand. As a result students will not want to study in that field. An indication of jobs with high demand is the starting pay of the job. If the starting pay is good there will always be people willing to work however they might be hinder by the high education fee. Most local students will not qualify for the scholarships. Students who qualify for scholarships will aim for high flying job. Thus labs having more foreigners than local is not surprising if singapore is giving grants mention by the starter of the forum.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

I was saying all these without whatever expenses. Just purely school fees. Which is around there. Laughing

ndmmxiaomayi SG

LOL, wrong.

When fees increase, they get the brunt too. You think they will still pay 6k when our fees are going up to 8k? No way man. All go up. In Singapore, law of gravity doesn't work or rather, our lifestyle isn't like the stock exchange.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Originally posted by 105090:
Hello people.
..at a institute/ in the life science sector..

here, in this lab, i estimate theres 50 workers in this particular lab. [b]48 are foreigners. out of the 48, at least 35 are from China, usually Shanghai. with the rest a mixed incluiding, india, ang moh, malaysia etc. all are on contract, fortunately.

the 2 singaporeans are on scholaship bond or temporary status.

i asked why the large number of foreigners. its because singapore has too little PhD holders, so bo pian, hire foreign people. when SGP got enough PhD ppl, the foreingers may get out.

still, this is still a sign of job competition, some more this sector is a very high-paying job
[/b]

Even Singaporeans aren't interested in our life sciences sector. They are staying because of the bond.

king108 SG

Cool Cool The issues is that why are we giving grants to them, by now giving grants to them, you may enjoy a bigger portion of the grants. And needed to paid less for the fee.

When you are a tax payer, you will realised why we got so Evil or Very Mad

105090 SG

yeah. singaporeans, my angmoh supervisor said, dont want work in life science. need a post-doctoral, work for 10 years, salary only like $8000 to $10,000. some more lifescience people all no outside life one le. who to blame?

now got the A*star thing, but i see also cant do much, except waste $

king108 SG

Cool I don't think so, it's should no easy to get PHD here for life science.
I happened to know one master in life science here. Got 8K -10K he would have gone for leh, now still struggling with 3K+.

oxford mushroom SG

Many doctors who work for 10 years also get between 8k to 10k what...and they have a bigger study loan to repay..

headset SG

I'm from a Local uni (NUS). Im doing an engineering course. In my first year i was taken aback by the number of forigners enrolled in my course. Its baffles me. I had the impressions that most of our students were simply unable to enter local universities because of the lack of sets and as such have been forced to leave the country to pursue their tertiary education.

There certainly isnt a lack of seats. The problem is, that the govt and the universities seem to had out a large portion of these seats to forigners. Ill be the first to admit that these forigners are accedimically very talented. However, National universities should stay true to their core function, to educate its population. With one less singaporean in a local university, goes one less singaporean's right to a tuition grant.

The goverment seems to have no qualms handing out scholarships and tuirion grants to forigners. What then is the privilage of being singaporean? Now with fee hikes, and reduction of tuition grants, i cant help but wonder, if we stopped handing out free rides, would there be a need to strain the locals' pockets.

charlize SG

Maybe next time, the foreign students will make up the whole of the student population in the Sg universities.

Singaporeans wanting a university education will need to go overseas to get their degrees. Laughing

thisismyaccount SG

cause we foreigners aer smarter than u locals. as a foreigner myself, i've been among tops in all the schools i've studied for. now in poly i'm also among the top students. and i gotten the best record for a module for the whole year when i was year 1. and most of the time, other top students i've seen are also foreigners, mostly from china. the reason is that they are more mature in terms of thinking. since they are away from their homeland, they have to grow up, and be responsible for their future. tt's y they noe they hav to study hard. unlike many locals, they take everything for granted. tt's y foreign talent is impt for singapore.

P.S. in the recent don noe wat world games, singapore gotten some gold and first place, in which singapore is so happy about, those who won the games are foreigners from china. they are only the PRs. wat do the local hav to offer back to the government?? anyway, i don understand y sg is so happy that china ppl won the games on their behalf??

charlize SG

Woo hoo.

Flame bait. Laughing

king108 SG

Mr. Green Forgive me for pouring cold water, but must really wake you up. If you are so smart. Go for scholarship, not grant..(name yourself talent - pleasessss)

[b]Real talents, everyone will offer you scholar. Taking grant...very normal only.. What there to be smart. I seen 17 singaporeans out 18 1st class and 1 angmo during my uni oversea Mr. Green

Angmo only put singaporean in their eyes more then other nationalist, when come to results. [/b]

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