PR / Citizenship Issue

donchoo SG

I was just wondering if we are allowed PR NOT equivalent to citizenship in another country, while still holding on to Singapore citizenship.

From what i know you're not allowed to hold on to dual citizenship in singapore. But what about PR? Anyone knows? Thanks.

strikefreedom SG

There no problem holding Singapore citizenship and a PR from another country. As for dual citizenship i am not sure though Wink

donchoo SG

Thanks for the info because i'm thinking of studying overseas and if i like it there i might get a PR to work there or something for a few years before coming back. Wink

strikefreedom SG

hmm not sure abt other countries, but for australia you will need to complete ur degree b4 you can apply for PR. but currently, the requirement for PR is pretty high, for example, engineering cannot qualify for PR automatically. And it hard to find a job in Australia if you are not a PR. Those friends of mine are jobless while waiting for their PR to be approved. So they can only do part time or shake leg at home Mr. Green

So it best to check out what the rules are in ur final semester becos PR regulation always change, at least for Australia Laughing

donchoo SG

I was thinking of massey university in NZ. Anyway just asking only i've yet to decide. Very Happy

hiphop2009 SG

i tink can larh, spore citizenship n PR in other country…....check with the immigration authorities??

free thinker SG

I think it shouldn’t be a problem. As long as you DO NOT take up the CITIZENSHIP of that country because it is an offence to any Singaporean to hold dual nationality. But i suppose you can apply for the Citizenship of that country and keep it a secret. Singapore does not tolerate dual nationality because of the NS issue and to me that is a shame. If a person loves Singapore, i am sure he would stay on and fight for Singapore even though he might have other Citizenship(s)... If he doesnt love Singapore, no matter how you force him to serve NS and fight for Singapore, he wouldnt do it whole-heartedly…

geodome SG

it is not about serving NS whole-heartedly. the point is national defense is crucial and given our small population, singapore lacks the manpower to have sufficient regular defense force. it is a matter of "need", not "want".

What's wrong if a Singaporean apply for an overseas citizenship? Singapore's stand against dual-citizenship merely means the Singaporen must drop his Singaporean citizenship if his application for an overseas citizenship is approved.

knnbeh SG

go oversea to study, find a job, get your citizenship and drop singapore citizenship.
then come back to work in singapore (become foreign talent) then get singapore PR Laughing

you will be better off that way.

the Bear SG

PR, sure! why not? Wink

and it's legal Laughing

Airforceone SG

I heard that Sing give out citizenship to two soccer players cheaply and it back fired. They are not even playing for the national team!

Maybe they can try applying Green card:

http://www.usa-green-card.com/GC_FormApplication.asp

ditzy SG

The rules for PR in australia were made more stringent as of last april. You need to gain another 5 more points, by having at least 2-3 more years of work experience.

You can gain australian PR and singapore citizenship at the same time, but if you wish to take up australian citizenship, your singapore one has to go. Applies the other way around as well.

strikefreedom SG

or put a A$100k bonds for 1 years or agreed to go to other states that need ur expertise Mr. Green

Gazelle SG

You can. Alternatively go marry a local there loh, sure can get PR status.. Laughing

ditzy SG

Hurhurhur, yayaya marry a local there, confirm PR. Laughing

charlize SG

I think they need tradesmen like plumbers, mechanics etc.

People with ITE certs might actually stand a chance for PRship. Laughing

ditzy SG

The "in" industry in Australia now is mining. Big bucks to be made. Mostly site work that involves working and living there. They pay at least 15K on top of your annual salary for site work due to the dangers and of course no one really wants to do it. Laughing

charlize SG

You can never get that kind of salary in Singapore cleaning food court tables. Laughing

vito_corleone SG

the chaps from china lor... Laughing eh cheap, quality construction okay...just look at hoover dam.

free thinker SG

go oversea to study, find a job, get your citizenship and drop singapore citizenship.
then come back to work in singapore (become foreign talent) then get singapore PR

you will be better off that way.

Man, you make it sound really easy. If the person who wishes to renounce is a female then its ok. But if the person is a male, it will be slightly more complicated then that.

If he is Singapore-Born and have not discharged his NS liabilities then he is screwed as he cannot renounce his Citizenship based on the Singapore Constitution. But if he was born overseas and acquired Singapore Citizenship due to descent but have not discharged his NS liabilities then is ok as the government will automatically "cancel" him and he will cease to be a citizen of Singapore unless he takes the OATH at the age of 21. Even so, he maybe arrested on arrival as he has commited an offence under the Enlistment Act thus he is liable in court.

By the way, if a person who renounced his/her Singapore Citizenship legally might not get the PR status later on as the government would have a record of that particular person and they don't really tolerate "quitters" thus that person is really gambling and i would advise that person who managed to give up his/her Singapore Citizenship to forget Singapore and move on as the world we live in is a big place and there are so many other countries that are much better than Singapore.