Salman's Suggestion For Election Manifesto

last SG · 2006-01-25T00:33:20+00:00

What is the point in continuing this discussion? 'Salmanisation' continues unabated; plenty of pointers have been raised to contradict the fantasy world Sal...

Salman SG

The problem is, you whine over nothing or you whine over the wrong things most of the time, and you do nothing but whine.
If there are enough folks like you, Singapore will collapse.
Your world view is dark and dim all around while mine is bright and optimistic.

Salman SG

In retrospect, Salman has provided a 3-liner manifesto:

which offers little more than VAGUE EXPRESSION and promises empty debate. There are no specifics, no in-depth focus, only the same 'salmanism' prevalent in all his posts.

three sentences that deals with the root of singapore's problems. Whiners who are negative and don't do or contribute much all their lives. Its a wasted life.

countdracula SG

the problem is when non-pap persons try to do something for singapore, they usually end up in jail, bankrupt or have their life story publish over the media to be humiliated…and that indeed is a wasted life…...by the way salman, which grc and whose coat-tail are you riding on in the coming ge?

Salman SG

I do things for the people of Singapore outside of PAP and I never had any problems with the govt.
What have you done?

PRP SG

I agree with your opinion.But the title of the topic is not quite appropriate.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

I don't whine over nothing or over wrong things. I write based on experience and how I view the situation. Whether my world is dark or not, is not the main problem. Stick to the topic.

Atobe SG

Originally posted by Salman:
I do things for the people of Singapore outside of PAP and I never had any problems with the govt.
What have you done?

We have done alot more then what you have seen to be capable of with your cheap 3 liners - that still remained as "NO BRAINERS" .

We have at least got you to make progress from "ONE liners" to "3 Liners" and we will also strive to make the Government a.k.a the Ruling Political Party to also progress from the same 'goblok' attitude like you have displayed.

Singaporean Males have served our National Service and created a force to be reckoned with in Singapore by providing the INTELLIGENT MANPOWER to use the weapons that we have purchased WITH OUR SWEAT MONIES PAID IN DIRECT AND INDIRECT TAXES - and what did we get ? Loss job opportunities to Foreigners who walked into Singapore and take over jobs that skilled Singaporeans can manage.

Singaporean MALES and FEMALES have ALL made SACRIFICES for the last FORTY YEARS and TOILED to build Singapore's reputation and gleaming glass buildings - and what did we get ? Paying high price for pigeon holes that even the Members of Parliament will not stay preferring to get cheap loans from their own political funds to buy private landed properties and apartments.

Singaporean Students have labored and proven themselves to an Education System that are world beaters in ELITIST EXAMS - and what did we get in return ? A surprise to hear from our Government a.k.a the Ruling Political Party that we are an UNTALENTED LOT INCAPABLE to GOVERN OURSELVES.

Singaporean have toiled for FORTY YEARS - what did we get in our Old Age ? Many have found out in their Old Age that there is little for them, as their CPF has been sucked dry by the high priced HDB Flats which they have paid but with NO CASH to feed themselves or pay for the medical attention needed in Old Age - and struggling to pay for the high cost of artificially inflated utilities that are operated by Government Linked Companies - trying to stay profitable by competing with each other to serve Singaporeans.

At least as 'Whiners' we have the courage to speak out these problems, instead of 'goblok' who prefer to walk with blinkers and defend the misgivings with cheap excuses and divert attention from the real issues.

It is a slow progress, but the 'mountain will be washed down by the soft snow and piercing rain'. Cool

Even the hardest precious stones will be worn down by constant rubbing of the weakest finger. Cool

Try harder with your attempt at running in circles the views of others, you will soon find out that it is the fool who run aimlessly without achieving anything - except to prove his own foolishness. Mr. Green

[email protected] SG

THAT'S IT!!!!!!! Twisted Evil

Personally, I'm not ashamed to say that I have voted for the PAP in the two elections that I got to vote in the past. Very Happy

Today, was glad that WP came out with their manifesto revealed when election date has not been announced yet. Razz

Was looking forward excitedly to see more robust debate between PAP & WP, when Dr Ng fired the first salvo in criticising WP manifesto as "time bombs". Wink

Since then, a few ministers including PM LHL have came out to criticise WP with sweeping remarks with more labelling such as "dangerous" "poison" without actually going into the specifics. Twisted Evil

Was greatly disappointed that our leaders today are acting just like our beloved salman in this forum, by throwing a one, three or five liners with some mud-slinging at oppositions without the need to substantial their opinion or views with facts or proofs so far. Crying or Very sad

If those are the "calibre" of our present leaders in paliament, meaning NATO, I think regardless of who (PAP or OPP) I voted into the paliament in the next election, will not make much different to my life staying in Singapore. Though I must admit that I don't believe (based on PAP past track record in government) my life will improve (god forsake not deteriorate) further at all even if PAP do win all the 84 seats in the coming election.

My "FEELING" is that PAP is no more a pro-citizen party anymore but an organisation whose task is to go all out to "squeeze" as much from its citizen, thus "enriching" themselves "profitability" while mouthing that they are here to "serve" the people of Singapore.

Finish my whinings here Embarassed , thanks to salman, for pushing me to see more clearly of the PAP "calibre" people in their political "mission" of "serving" the people, I have decided my vote (if I do get to vote again) will go to any Tom, Dick or Henry (not Harry Laughing ) candidate except PAP.

Will I live to regret my decision? Crying or Very sad

YES! If PAP turned out to be the kind of political party that I "vision" it to be! Twisted Evil

Then I will be "living" in "hell", looking at how the PAP government had "FAIRLY & EQUALLY" treated our FELLOW SINGAPOREAN residing in Potong Pasir, as example.

fudgester SG

Ok then, hotshot, what are these things which you have done 'for the people of Singapore outside of PAP'?

I say you had better start talking sense or shut up.

charlize SG

Originally posted by [email protected]:

[b]THAT'S IT!!!!!!! Twisted Evil

Personally, I'm not ashamed to say that I have voted for the PAP in the two elections that I got to vote in the past. Very Happy

Today, was glad that WP came out with their manifesto revealed when election date has not been announced yet. Razz

Was looking forward excitedly to see more robust debate between PAP & WP, when Dr Ng fired the first salvo in criticising WP manifesto as "time bombs". Wink

Since then, a few ministers including PM LHL have came out to criticise WP with sweeping remarks with more labelling such as "dangerous" "poison" without actually going into the specifics. Twisted Evil

Was greatly disappointed that our leaders today are acting just like our beloved salman in this forum, by throwing a one, three or five liners with some mud-slinging at oppositions without the need to substantial their opinion or views with facts or proofs so far. Crying or Very sad

If those are the "calibre" of our present leaders in paliament, meaning NATO, I think regardless of who (PAP or OPP) I voted into the paliament in the next election, will not make much different to my life staying in Singapore. Though I must admit that I don't believe (based on PAP past track record in government) my life will improve (god forsake not deteriorate) further at all even if PAP do win all the 84 seats in the coming election.

My "FEELING" is that PAP is no more a pro-citizen party anymore but an organisation whose task is to go all out to "squeeze" as much from its citizen, thus "enriching" themselves "profitability" while mouthing that they are here to "serve" the people of Singapore.

Finish my whinings here Embarassed , thanks to salman, for pushing me to see more clearly of the PAP "calibre" people in their political "mission" of "serving" the people, I have decided my vote (if I do get to vote again) will go to any Tom, Dick or Henry (not Harry Laughing ) candidate except PAP.

Will I live to regret my decision? Crying or Very sad

YES! If PAP turned out to be the kind of political party that I "vision" it to be! Twisted Evil

Then I will be "living" in "hell", looking at how the PAP government had "FAIRLY & EQUALLY" treated our FELLOW SINGAPOREAN residing in Potong Pasir, as example. [/b]

Wah, even pro PAP voters are starting to see the light. Laughing

Lowclassman SG

The cost of construction of 4rm & 5rm on average; contractors tender at S$65k to S$85K per unit on these days. Tell me why not we are whinning here? The greedy govt kept saying heavily subsidy to singaporeans; I don't think so.....We are born here, a pure singaporean, don't you think that we deserved a place stand here on this land? The donkey years of housing loan that is killing all of us. Freaking sg govt!!!!!! Mad

Salman SG

Err.. do you have a breakdown costing to justify your charge?

Chiam See Tong was challenged to build flats himself back in the 80s and he chickened out after doing his own costing.

Lowclassman SG

Do you know why he was chicken out? Chiam was given a swampy area with hundreds feets of marine clay underneath the ground to built. Where HDB was not even going to built in that area due to costly and tremendous difficulties for contsruction to be executed. You idoit!!!!!! Mad

For your information. I have been in contruction Industry for 18 years.

Atobe SG

Originally posted by Lowclassman:

Do you know why he was chicken out? Chiam was given a swampy area with hundreds feets of marine clay underneath the ground to built. Where HDB [b]was not even going to built in that area due to costly and tremendous difficulties for contsruction to be executed. You idoit!!!!!! Mad

For your information. I have been in contruction Industry for 18 years.[/b]

On top of that - Chiam had no access to CHEAP FUNDING but had to depend on Market Financing scheme like any other property developers. Evil or Very Mad

Is POLITICS any fairer practised by our Third World Political Elites - who believe that they have brought Singapore into the First World Question Mr. Green

Atobe SG

For someone who shoots his mouth about substantiating one's position - check yours before you shoot Mr. Green

"No Brainer" statements will not help you run any faster in circles around any one of us

Gazelle SG

Hey dude, didnt you whin about undervalued YUAN and China taking away your job?

dragg SG

to him, we are whining.

he is talking sense.

he just want to win.

Gazelle SG

He always win when there is no one to race. Mr. Green

fudgester SG

He asked for facts, and now people are throwing those facts at him.

Let's see how he's going to 'salmanise' himself out of this little situation he's in now. It ought to be interesting. Mr. Green

RaTtY81 SG

aiya let salman WIN all his arguement la. Laughing happy now salman?

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