MM Lee - improving living standard is main issue in election

will4 SG

I think it is difficult for a graduate to work for any position. First a graduate
will not want to work in clerical position. The potential employer will them they overqualified n they might not last long in the position.
I realized local graduates if difficult to get work, can try Malaysia for work.

claudetnt SG

Salman:
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What abt the guys who do get jobs like you?
How many percent of the work force don't have jobs?"

Very good question, believe me, i wish i knew but do you know that the govt with the all latest figures up on their computers do not know this fact (the number of graduates above their 40s who are unemployed, working for less salaries and looking for jobs)!

will4 SG

U heard of such cases? Please share to us.

claudetnt SG

will4:

"I think it is difficult for a graduate to work for any position. First a graduate
will not want to work in clerical position. The potential employer will them they overqualified n they might not last long in the position.
I realized local graduates if difficult to get work, can try Malaysia for work."

you will be surprised that some of my friends with Master degrees from very good overseas Universities are working as clerks, secruity officers, waiters etc in singapore and some have left for Malaysia, Australia, NZ and chances are they will not be back, great loss to our mother land!

will4 SG

Originally posted by claudetnt:

you will be surprised that some of my friends with Master degrees from very good overseas Universities are working as clerks, secruity officers, waiters etc in singapore and some have left for Malaysia, Australia, NZ and chances are they will not be back, great loss to our mother land!

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I realized there many such cases n how long they last in the position u
mentioned?

will4 SG

When u mentioned they posseseed Master degree, what they specialized in?

claudetnt SG

will4:

"--- many such cases n how long they last---?

unfortunately some are still at it and many have quit.

"--- Master degree,--- in?

mostly in Management, Economics + Engineering,

NewAge SG

really they have a master in econ and management and still cant find a job? Shit i was playing to do those subjects in the university? By the way did they try to gain some working experiences between their honors and master? I heard from a hr manager that they will usually quiz the ppl with why they advance to master straight away. If there is no good explanation like u receive a scholarship then they will need to think thrice before hiring as u are overqualified as a junoir and too inexperience to hold good positions.

Salman SG

MBAs are getting so common nowadays, people are not impressed anymore. I guess the work record woudl be a better bet.
Frankly, I don't care about degress unless you are a fresh grad.

dragg SG

frankly. we dont care what you think.

Salman SG

Really? Of course you do, thats why you are so angry with me.

Ito_^ SG

Crying or Very sad i oni have diploma.

will4 SG

I think there is case of a local who studied for Master in Engineering before
going into full time NS n after he ORD, he applied for a position in ST.
They informed he too overqualified n he went to migrate to Australia.
To study is good but coming back to work, a fren of mine seemed to be a loyal
Sporean n many local complained about how lousy Spore is, he said seemed
many Malaysian can come to Spore to work but not vice versa. In fact, Malaysian economy is doing well for the past year.

AF2005 SG

the number of graduates of all ages and races that are poorly or not employed are very much less than the number of poorly educated and ageing that are lowly employed or not at all.

its called maximize the vote counts. If for example, they contest Nee Soon central and east and focus on helping 10 graduates over 1000 lowly paid or poor, then they get 10 votes but lose 1000 votes. NS central has lost once to WP. Its still the weakest link till today.

If i remember someone at the top once made this comment, a graduate with a degree that can made it through university is sure to be smart and capable to get a good job anywhere, that includes going overseas.

Thats why society treat graduates as someone smart and capable of taking care of themself. if not his degree or masters is just as good as no degree.

dragg SG

i am not angry with you. i respect the fact that you have a job to do.

fymk SG

Ai ya....

You select meh?

Being a government scholar is the best bet ...even better if you are president scholar. Never mind if you didn't perform well ...it is because the other people didn't teach you well. How can government be so wrong about a president scholar! GAHMENT number 1 MAH!

claudetnt SG

NewAge:

Suggest you think very carefully before you pursue any furher studies. There are an abudance of singaporean graduates with very high qualifications with more than one degree, some of them have better qualifications than our ministers, that are unemployed / underpaid / or unemployable due to their vast experiences no local employer even want to interview them!

Some of these guys took the govt advice and upgraded themselves to this state!

will4 SG

It also depend what course they study. Accountancy is a programme always
kena employed.

Atobe SG

If one pretend to have a degree - then it is better to depend on a personal "guess the work record woudl be a better bet " Rolling Eyes

If one "don't care about degrees" - why qualify with an exception towards "a fresh grad" ? Cool

Could it be the truth is that a 'fresh grad' has the degree that pose a threat to your empty boast of having "an economics degree" ? Wink

Perhaps we can believe you have an "economics degree" judging by the economy in your posting with "no brainer one-liners" Mr. Green

claudetnt SG

finally the govt. has a $30 million package to help redesign keep older workers ( which includes grads, too) employed which is a welcome but is it 8 years too late? Did it take our Top guys in the govt to wake up and to come to graps with the reality that older workers were really having difficulties staying employed and been re-employed?

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