Opposition Party Strategy in the next General Elections

zaxis SG

opp parties possible task
high light social visit visa daily travel from causeway into singapore for daily job in our island.

check @ check point those with uniform but without work permit?

more check @ ship yard? construction site?

hawker centre? they even have change their waiting site from along BKE to now most hawker centre?

set up these check for more than 14 days when their social visit visa expired? they will consider more if to come again? come over but cannot do illegal business?

promote together with geylang operator? encourage customer to use only yellow card work permit holder service.

set up tour of duty @ Geylang? along lorong 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 & 18?

spot check @ health centre? chinese health centre? along geylang road, from lorong 15 , 13 & 9!

opposite CPA house those health centre?

pikamaster SG

Archidoron,

1) Seriously, if that were a criterion, then ministers like Vivian and Lim Boon Yang aren't suitable to be in politics either. To me, all elections are only bunches of emotional appeal. THe more emotional appeal you have, the more support you gain. What else is the meaning of the phrase "working the ground". But at any rate, GMS is more rational in the other threads he has involved himself in.

2) I need no mirror. My first two sentences are what I would call informal quotes - I am re-stating the implied points of GMS's post to confirm that I agree with them - in their more moderate senses of course.

I, therefore, feel very insulted for being called pompous. Besides, seen in a more objective manner, the metaphor "loose cannon" merely describes an action or manner of action; it is not a true ad hominem.

the (objective, restrained and cool) pikamaster

Archirodon SG

Wah, I'm impressed you know puppies character this well or is that your second nature. Laughing

What a joke pika! Calling someone a loose cannon is not insulting but pompous is. That certainly prove you are pompous, isn't it?

Surely you need a mirror, come on.... Oh, well, perhaps your are right, no need a mirror because is cracks on you afterall.

Merry Christmas to you pika! Ho ho ho.

Cindyfeh SG

Ask any dog owners and she can tell you that.

Sorry, I forgot you might be blinded too. Too blinded to observe simple things in life.

Yeah, its Christmas time, do you need a walking crane? Perhaps we can get you one. How about a nice oak piece? It will be very useful for you when you are walking with three legs behind your owners.

pikamaster SG

Arichidoron,

Merry Christmas to you too, and a happy new year!!

Have you heard of the proverb "duan zhang qu yi" ("taking meaning from a sentence fragment")? If you want to determine if someone is pompous, analyze the TONE of the post; don't just make a stickling point over a few words. If I were pompous, I would have used a term more insulting than "loose canon", and would have been much more vindictive toward GMS. After all, a pompous person would aim to show that he is entirely superior to all others, and would write in a way that dismisses everyone else as idiots, which I didn't do definitely. Or perhaps, I should challenge you to prove that I did.

and IMHO, this post of yours sounds very pompous.

the (dissappointed) pikamaster

gorby107 SG

Yesterday SM Goh Chok Tong hinted that the next GE will be held next year...........

This may a good opportunity to the opposition camp to prepare well

Archirodon SG

Cindyfeh,

Did you realise you are not refuting my posts on the Strategies for Opposition but throwing pot shots on my postings? Are you barking up the right tree, sweetie? I suggest you put in more constructive rebuttal and stop sniffing arses. Go fetch your bone! Go!

I wouldn't use your definition of pompous. It's just as simple as one who thinks highly of himself or self-important. Quote "......dismisses others as idioits.." It's exaggerated.

While you commented on GMS's writing on shouting, exclamation mark, capitals, etc, do read your own posting first, yeah? Stop calling others "loose cannon" and you odd to know that any names other than your own name (or nicks), they are insulting.

Still don't get it?

LazerLordz SG

The posts are degenerating into something close to Sammyboy forums’ standards..all the name calling of the doggy nature.

Cindyfeh SG

Ever heard of Freedom of Speech?

NEVER?

Hmm not surprising cause your masters didn't teach you.

Weirdo80 SG

Can we please get back to the topic at hand? Just ignore this Archirodon fella, he's just being purile. If you don't answer to him, he won't feel the satisfaction.

Anyway, I'm very eager to see what the opposition has to offer for the next round of GEs!

BTW, if I have the chance to vote, I'm not voting PAP even if the opposition doesn't live up to expectation. I'm sick of their underhanded and totalitarian tactics.

t_a_s SG

alas, pls be careful when u vote, last few elections my wife blindly voted a WP candidate who turn out to be a molester in Bt Timah ward. Nowadays the opposition candidates not strong, not like when in 1998, Francis Seow staged a rally in Eunos GRC, wah the crowd was fantastic, all the roads were congested, but TV news, and newspapers did not report, and the result came out to be 47% something, and Francis Seow was the NCMP bur the Goverment had the parliament renovated and Francis Seow lost the chance to enter parliement and after that he was convicted of not paying income tax.
I followed the GE alomost 20 years and every opposition rallies, i certainly attended, among them were the rallies of JBJ,Tang Liang Hong, Francis SEow, Chiam See Tong, Lee Siow Cho, Chee Soon Juan, Low Thia Kiang, Chia THye Poh, those are the heavyweight, the not so famous were Wong Hong Toy, Ling How Dong, Jufrie Mahmood, Kahlid Baboo, P.D Nair, Yip Yew Weng, etc. I think only Francis Seow can fight with Lee Kuan Yew, u see the debate, for the amendment to the Law Society Act which were telecast live, LKY looked not stable when debate with Francis Seow. But one thing he does not like politics. that is true, PAP found out he is a womaniser, so PAP will dig out all the past if the opposition is strong, e g Dr Tan Bin Seng case. so that is no end.....

pikamaster SG

+1 when I'm old enough to vote.

pikamaster SG

Archidoron,

I don't wish to talk about this in this thread any more after this.

1) As is always said, the devil is in the details: how do you determine whether someone is thinking too highly of himself without misunderstanding the entire situation?

2) *sigh* When I write my posts, I ensure that the language and content are as calm, cool and objective as possible. Look at my post around this forum. Except for a few instances where some people - I hope it will not include you soon - drove me to the end of my wits, my posts are generally topic-focused and informative to the best of my ability. I performed a linguistic analysis/ critique on GMS's post; I didn't merely accuse him of "poor grammar" or "poor English" or something like that.

As for the "loose canon" phrase which you find extremely insulting, I'll inform you politely that I chose the least insulting term to describe such a behaviour. Kindly compare "loose canon" with "purile" or with any other of your comments on GMS and Cindyfeh. For your convenience, I shall list them:-

a. "just trying to hit and run"

b. "untactful" Compared with Chia Li Tik, I can see that GMS is much more diplomatic and tactful.

c. "any quality in you"

d. "you are doing more damages than good for the opposition camp"

e. "roll in the mud and dirty yourself"

f. "If you can't sweet-talk, you can forget about being in politics" FYI, friend, many famous historical leaders were straight-talkers e.g. Napoleon Bonaparte, Hitler, Churchill, Caesar, Pope John Paul II... For those that were voted in, it is because the strength of their convictions resonated in their voters. For eg, Churchill was respected for his tough line against Germany; he didn't float presents down London Chimneys.

g. "you can drown yourself in your own poo"

h. "plain stupidity ... go stick your nose in others' arses."

i. "brave heroes" - if you're not going to contest, at least respect those who are. Whatever their shortfalls, at least they show more courage than you.

Please mark out which of these nine comments is less insulting than "loose canon". Enough said.

3) I suspect you don't get it. Seriously, you are beginning to remind me of CAROLINE1021 from Sintercom. And tt's no good.

Cheers
and
may the spirit of the new year remove your grouchiness,

the (festive & democratic) pikamaster

CosmoKing SG

This is good news. I too will vote for any Tom Dick or Jerry from the opposition camp. Never has been or ever will be any Harry from the incumbents.

Be it the drunk, rapist, chuvenist, those having bad employment records, inappropriately dressed or strange fetishes etc etc. standing in. The script is always the same and the media and opponents will do a good job to highlight these unusual traits at the most critical climax. Seemingly ordinary individuals, your neigbhour and the man in the street that pop out of nowhere become persona non grata and just as quickly ostracized back into oblivion the next day..

But, there are just some who will not be swayed by these underhand tactics. So just take it easy and leave aside the credentials and promises. This time, the decision is 'fixed' even when the battle begins.

Maybe this will be a big risk. But the safe than sorry mindeset that have been going on for too long will mean that one will never be able to see change nor be able to step outside to see the inside. That way, there is just no benchmark to speak of.

No more good years or upgrading, so be it. The intangible benefits may be more worthwhile for the soul. One may even be condemned as the prodigal son, but something somewhere have got to sacrifice. even if the lightning strikes, its time to change gods.

LazerLordz SG

very well said.These are your man-in-the-street, who know that the best way to success is to join the PAP, but yet they take the road less trodden, because they believe.And that belief is not easily seen through the haze and smoke pots set by the media.

Give your fellow Singaporeans a chance.Listen to their platform and vote with a informed mind... Razz

SGLoyalist SG

Hi,

I am finally glad to hear someone who sees opposition people as "fellow Singaporeans" rather than "those people", "them", "they" etc.

Regards

LazerLordz SG

I try to think that there are much more mature like-minded people around. Smile

ObviousMan SG

Why is the updated Worker's Party Manifesto not published online?

Thanks to PAP, now the Workers Party Manifesto has captured the headlines in the local news. However, I bet that the majority of Singaporeans have not read the manifesto yet, but only the reduced interpretation of it. PAP has played its cards well, selecting the weakest points to launch their attack. Aided by the media, the campaign to discredit the strongest opposition party is on.

If WP chooses to fight on the ground chosen by PAP, it is at a serious disadvantage since few have read the manifesto and draw their interpretations through the press. WP should get people to see the forest instead of the trees. I suggest that WP take advantage of this unsolicited marketing and release the WP 2006 manifesto online so that Singaporeans can learn about their other objectives, since it is a hot topic now.

It may dent sales of printed copies of the manifesto, but it will raise WPs publicity and allow the people to decide. Anyway, i think people tend to buy the manifesto more as a show of support than as a "for value" buy.

fymk SG

Waste of time lah …I already can predict winners of Sg elections. Too bad this psychic ability does not apply to lottery numbers ….

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