Australia considers taking S'pore to int'l court

last SG · 2005-11-21T15:36:47+00:00

for greater national security and interest, the OB markers have to be removed. we have a rule of law, let not some unspoken marker govern our society, if th...

ditzy SG

Playing the comparing game again. Not sian meh? Why you don't compare Africa? Oh forgot, you've never been there. Laughing How about Barcelona? Never been there either?

breytonhartge SG

Safe is a subjective opinion... Wink Laughing

soloken SG

Alamak Perth is known to be a dead town, so how can it be dangerous..anyway a bit off topic from you.

ha8n SG

relatns like that

pikamaster SG

Hmm... I don't really think CSJ would make a good leader; perhaps Sylvia Lim might be better... Mr. Green

pikamaster SG

Please, I'm tired of the abolitionist viewpoint being warped into that of the cruel sadist. Yes, of course we all know "how drugs have destroyed many families and so many lives". But, we should still be objective and ask: Did the drug traffickers actually attempt to FORCE the drugs down their potential consumers' throats? Apart from the nature of the good they are selling, any other tactic they use can't really be classified as anything other than hard selling tactics, which many MNCs use, or that your average hawkers use.

I thought of a very good analogy to show the hypocrisy of convicting drug traffickers: The Slim 10 Saga. The drug traffickers are in the same position as the friend of D' Cruz or the retailer which sold Slim 10 to him. Given the great damage Slim 10 did to its consumers' bodies, shouldn't its manufacturer have received the Death Penalty. The side effects of Slim 10 after all, happen to be identical to the effects of ecstasy or heroin. Yet, I think the company just got off with a hefty fine.

We should always remove the plank in our eye before removing the splinter in others'.

The (dissappointed) pikamaster

pikamaster SG

Mind your racism! Evil or Very Mad

pikamaster SG

breytonhartge,

1) Yes, it was stated but the way you dudes emphasize it, it appears as if that was the only thing mentioned.

2) USA is so large, I guess it depends on where you are. Besides, I notice that people of your clique enjoy siezing on the examples of USA and Taiwan to prove your point that Singapore should not become more liberal. (your line under the convenient cloak of "too much liberalism will kill a country") Why not look at other most liberal countries like Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland (to include a multiethnic country)? Are they embroiled in chaos? No, and they rank much higher than us on both the HDI and PFI, and get favourable reports from Human Rights agencies.

Why not consider the point that too much conservatism can kill a country? Why not look at Israel, Saudi Arabia etcetc.

3) Singaporeans have it good, but again what is the price of this supposed goodness? Does it weigh out on the scale of progress? Exclamation

4) *YAWN*, the most convenient excuse. Yes, I've heard this before. The government charted a good path for us from 1965 to 1990; after that they got too stuck up for their own good, and this has resulted in the stagnation of everything down here except for the economy. Hopefully, our economy will continue to improve... Our education system sure isn't... Exclamation

the pikamaster

sgdiehard SG

if your preferance is that "Sinapore became independent in 2000 with CSJ as inaugural PM", what do you think you deserve now?? a british passport?? Evil or Very Mad

breytonhartge SG

Well it seems that you know better, so then you should get into politics... Laughing

Are you blind? Singapore has progressed... just take a good look around you, and please, don't give me any of that we should be a more enlightened bs... it does not work in Singapore! Face it. You wanna have it bad so that Singapore can progress "morally" as a nation? kekeke. My question to you is this, has our supposed "conservatism" killed our country? I don't think so.

Look at the world, being "only" around for 40 years, we have achieved what took the whites hundreds of years to achieve... so please! Rolling Eyes

Just because certain things aren't working so well, does it mean that the government hasn't done a good job? The education system has got nothing to do with the issue at hand.

It is simple really, we have laws, we warn people of our stringent laws, even when you are approaching on the plane, you are warned... and we have penalties for breaching those laws. You break them, you pay. Yes clemency can be given, but it is an option olny and not one that has to be followed. If you overturn this particular decision, then from the worlds view point we have "caved in" to the westerners... if we decided to grant clemency without foreign intervention, that would be another matter altogether. The aussies had three years to do something about it, why make so much noise about it now...? If the guy really could have helped with any investigations, should that information not be given by now?

There is of course some pride at stake as well, we cannot be seen to be bowing down to another sovereign powers wishes.

breytonhartge SG

What makes you think that Singapore has a plank to remove? Shocked

sgdiehard SG

The (ignorant, or stubborn?) pikmaster,

comparing Slim 10 with illegal drugs shows your complete ignorance in the issue of drug abuses. No wonder you cannot see the suffering of the drug addicts. Mad
Slim 10 is a legal drug for slimming purposes like thousands of others now available in the market. Things went wrong either because the formular was changed or D' Cruz's body reacted to it adversely. Many others had no problem with the drug. Slim 10 were sold for the good of those who take it. From the records of those who took Slim 10, and the approval of the authorities for their sales in the market, the retailers had no reasons to believe that Slim 10 could be harmful in anyway. And where on earth did you get the idea that "the side effects of Slim 10 after all, happen to be identical to the effects of ecstasy or heroin"? so did D' Cruz take the drug for the side effect in a party, just like taking cough mixture??

ecstasy or heroin are illegal drugs, and their harmfulness to human bodies war well known, everybody, from the drug manufacturers, the dealers and to even the users but the users, especially the young ones have no choice once addicted. In your opinion, the drug lords should register themselves as MLM like Amway or Nuskin in their promotion of their drugs?? Evil or Very Mad

Why did the Oz strapped the drug to his body and not packed and check in as luggage? all evidence show clearly that he knew the drugs were illegal, his way of transporting the drugs showed the clear intention to smuggle. the law was broken and a law is a law....

If you have not the wisdom to differentiate between the highly addictive drugs and the slimming pills, have not the knowledge to understand the difference between legal and illegal, have not the morality to distinguish the difference between a drug smuggler and a retailer, you are one of those who have eyes but cannot see, what difference does a plank or splinter make??

sgdiehard SG

iveco SG

he is technically not in the jurisdiction of the singapore police, but interpol

What do you make of this? Rolling Eyes

breytonhartge SG

disagree he was on singapore soil....

ditzy SG

An edited sentence of yours? Laughing

LazerLordz SG

She's a capable person.

smiggy SG

You mean too strict towards drug peddlers and criminal?

So what do you propose..give them life sentence and feed them for 20 years using tax payers monies?

Every country have law. Will he get the death penalty if he do not commit a crime?

Is there a problem with your brain? Shocked

Icemoon SG

I have a question.

It is not illegal if we declare (read: surrender) the drugs before the immigration point right?

I'm not sure 'cos you can own up above Sg airspace and technically you have brought drugs into Singapore.

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