Dalai Lama to ask Bush to help resolve Tibet issue: envoy

iveco SG

And never in any of my posts did I ever mention Tibetan Buddhists. I was referring to Buddhists in general.

Seriously, you act as if you have something against me. No wonder HCRC put you on blacklist. There is something terribly wrong with your nature.

laurence82 SG

No wonder the whole forum put you on their blacklist, when he refers to the Tibetans and you gey gao talk another thing

Laughing

HR dont know what C people in a mess liao, threat to me meh?

iveco SG

Look here, 38Z is implying that certain Buddhists mix religion and politics. As far as I know, Buddhists are more liberal-minded than most Christians. I remember Earthlings once said that Dalai Lama recognises the status of LGBTs in society (or something to that effect).

38 SG

Dalai Lama long ago already not in the Potala Place, but Tibetans still repeat their practice even today.

Because their god still in their holy palace, with or without Dalai Lama

laurence82 SG

Tibetan culture a bit mix mashed, of Tibetan gods and Buddhism.

But i dont know of any 'god' in Potala...

laurence82 SG

That is good as saying you are gay, not a Bonnie Wright lover. I can understand. Laughing

38 SG

BTW, u come to a temple for praying their Buddha rather than their Monks, Am I right? Laughing

laurence82 SG

Yes, but not god.... Laughing

38 SG

As long as u understand... Very Happy

English is an arguable language Twisted Evil Wink

laurence82 SG

Buddha isnt god, that what it is in Buddhism, unless you specifically refer to Tibetan gods, but i dont rem their gods reside in the Potala Palace....so there...

38 SG

it seems I also need to do some English lesson Wink

From American traditional dictionary:

god
god
AHD:[g¼d]
D.J.[g%d]
K.K.[g$d]
n.
God
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
Christian Science Infinite Mind; Spirit; Soul; Principle; Life; Truth; Love (Mary Baker Eddy).
A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed:
money was their god.
A very handsome man.
A powerful ruler or despot.

So, for christian, their god is Jesus
for Buddhist, their god is Buddha

dragg SG

buddha is not GOD.

he said so himself.

laurence82 SG

Again, nope

WHile Buddha may achieve nirvana, Buddhists never consider him god, or some sort of powerful being or creator. Mayhap the Buddhists from the Buddhism forum can enlighten you on this.

Secondly, as part of the academia myself, i rarely used the dictionary. Its a quick useful mean to find the meaning of the word, but it can never give us enough understanding of the word, and not enough examples to fit into other context not covered by the dictionary.

Cheers... Laughing

38 SG

Laughing

I'd better leave this thread which turns quickly into a religious talk show.
Anyway, My mission here finished Wink

laurence82 SG

nah, it wont

afterall, who want to support the commies here in sg?

pat33 SG

I would not dispute that he is the spiritual head of Tibet but a political head? Even in most developed countries the spiritual head and the political head are not the same and one.

It isn't right to comparing the Church with Dalai Lama. In the Dalai Lama case, he advocates a struggle to free his people. The Church doesn't.

My point is, he is mixing politic with religion. And how is doing it? By courting those countries that are not on so friendly term with China or that have ulterior motives on China and synergy with them. This can be a dangerous cocktail if it is not handled properly. From a religious point, I have no comment. But from a political point, he seems shrewd bordering cunningness. Imagine a shrewd or cunning 'Pop' or 'Imam' or whatwever, you got my point? Instead of furthering his cause this way, it seems from all these past years that it has actually weaken it.

Nowhere didn't say he advocating violence and intolerance.

I quote what I wrote "he preaches patience, tolerence and non-violence in dealing with China". Read his books written by himself on this matter. He himself advocates these concepts.

I respect all Buddhists and have no hatred for Dalai Lama. I have read a few of his books. I respect him for being an intellect and great religious leader. His struggled to free his people is touching and moving. But years of persisting in his methods that can't bearing fruit?

laurence82 SG

Thats what i been saying, its not fair to impose the concept of separation of the church and state on the culture of Tibet. Therefore, its ok for them to have him as a spiritual as well as a poltical leader.

Cant help but to say, politically, he is allright. One thing is that, and if you ask majority of the people in speakers corner, the commies should have never existed. There is no reason for them to gain the reins of leadership in China...

Ito_^ SG

but its not a reason that wld make him stop..

laurence82 SG

Seriously, i pray for the day regions like Xinjiang and Tibet be free, and the commies punished heavily for their atrocities and stupidity..

eric shang SG

Dalai Lama want tibet to be like hongkong ,do you think it is possible?hongkong although return to china ,but in fact ,like a country ,,tibet llike hongkong ,impossible ,westerns always say that china break tibetan culture ,but ,tibetan indulgst in its spiriture world and do not develop economic,china should change something ,let them realise that money is important, develop is important,

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