is Warning a Criminal record?

fedor86 SG

I was involved in a gang robbery cum rioting cum illegal assembly case 3 years back and surprisingly I was merely issued a "warning" from the police and was not charged in court.

Question is, do I have a criminal record?

dragg SG

no.

but the next time you are arrested they will take the warning into consideration when sentencing.

NAMELESS WONDER SG

quite a serious offence,u r lucky to get away only with a warning.
did the rest get away with a warning like u did,i wonder?

kaka_22 SG

i’ve been fined 2000 SGD for trafic ofences….is it a criminal record???

coffeeortea SG

wtf, only warning? and they jailed bloggers, what the Fuck is the world coming to

stellazio SG

no la.. Laughing

AF2005 SG

you were let go, because you were too young at time of offence. and also any victims or injuries to victims. and
did victims report you or you all both side the same?
Did you parents show their faces with you in front of officers?

however its recorded in the database.

try that again, it will be jail time or fine or both.

sometimes also depends on which judge and prosecution or senior officers handling the cases.

fedor86 SG

Great to know it isn't a record.

yea I was only like 16 then, was very gullible in doing any stuff to "prove" myself... so freaking dumb.

my friends ain't so lucky, some went RTC and some had probation reason being they are involved in more then 1 case.

Sagara SG

you probably got away cuz the victim did not want to pursue the case.

cornyfish2000 SG

If the police says it wants to give you a warning, you can choose to

1) Accept the warning OR
2) Dispute the warning (which means, claim trial in court)

If you accept the warning, it means you have admitted to the offence and yes, you will have a record with the CID. However, this is not a so-called 'criminal record' in the true sense of the word, as you have not been convicted in a court of law.

This issue came out a few months back in the papers when someone got rejected when applying for a job because of this record of warning. He disputed it, saying he never committed the offence and that he had accepted the police warning out of convenience. The papers then interviewed a few lawyers who gave the advice that one should never accept a police warning if he has never committed the offence as accused.

Perhaps you can seek the help from forumnites working in the police force?
They might be in a better position to clarify your doubts.
http://policeforce.sgforums.com

Arena SG

duck!!! u robbed and let off with a warning and u shld count urself lucky bloke....

piece of shit... why do u need to rob?

WiNtEr'SkiLL SG

u commited so many offences and u are still here
wow.. thats lenient

Robbery is unpardonable

fedor86 SG

I too think that what I did was grave and probably did not deserve just a warning but the fact is, 2 out of 10 that were involved was let off with just a warning.
It is probably because the 2 weren't as "active" as the others during the robbery and both of us were involved in only one case while all the others were involved in one or two other seperate case.
Furthermore, the victim wasn't some old lady or housewife, it was a "gangster". I know it dosen't matter much as a robbery is still robbery but I feel that if the victim was an old lady, I will most probably end up in RTC.

And please do not label me as some "criminal", please trust our Police Force, if they think I deserve a warning then so be it. In other words, DON'T SABO ME. Give me a chance la.

ShutterBug SG

The very nature of the ACTS you were warned for partaking in, is CRIMINAL!

In the Police files, your name is listed in the case in which you were involved, and that no further Police action was taken against you based perhaps on grounds that you were not actively involved but was nonetheless, there among the people rounded up.

So it is indeed in file.

If the ACTS are or criminal nature, the warning will have been duly recorded. Hence, whatever was recorded, shall be deemed a Record, of Criminal Nature.

Clear enough?

Arena SG

btw heard that these records will be cleared if the person behaves in a period (x) of years...
is it true?

fedor86 SG

to conclude, when filling up a employment form, do I say yes in the

"Do you have a ciminal record" part?

ShutterBug SG

Whether or not, you admit/reveal your police records to a prospective employer depends on the nature of work you are applying for. Sometimes employers do run a check on applicant's background for criminal convictions. But how these companies or employers will react, is entirely up to them - then again, it depends on the serverity of your criminal charge.

Yes it is true that criminal records will be erased after some years only for those who have been charged and have either 1) been fined a minimum of $2000, 2) have served prison term of 1-2 years, or both.

However, a Criminal Record doesn't just mean that if you have been charged in the Court of Law. If a WARNING have been served to you, for certain crime/s committed in which it is viewed as SERIOUS, it is still regarded a Criminal Record even though no custodial sentence was passed unto you because of the very CRIMINALITY of the acts participated in.

But technically, you WILL BE worst off if you were charged and have served time in jail. That means the Police and the Judicial System had sufficient evidence/s to convict you without doubts.