LTA and TP are piece of S.H.I.T!!

last SG · 2005-09-22T18:57:32+00:00

Murderer are people to have intention to kill. Accident on the road is caused by recklessness and negligent. Have you seen you your bare eyes people got run...

Love Supreme SG

MY is worst? why compare ourselves to developing countries. That is simply a loser mentality. honestly I think MY drivers know how to use highway much better than many singaporeans here.

highway code updated? updated with what? ERP, new road marking?

tell me what road education do we have? Driving along the road safety park in East Coast?

Does it mean that bad up bringing allows you to do what ever you want in the public? shit in the lift? scratch other people car? stealing?

KNN I really dont know what you talking about here...Your up bring is damn good isit? you mean son of lawyers or politician dont take drugs?

Love Supreme SG

20000/2000 = $10? WHAT CAR YOU DRIVING DUDE??

sbst275 SG

I suggest you drive along NS Highway bef you commend. They can even carry weapons to kill you if you meet into road rage

New road marking... I suggest you go read the highway code bef commending again, they are reguarly updated. But dun expect it to be monthly since this means high printing cost. Like now this week, bus lanes @ Orchard are red in colour

you mean son of lawyers or politician dont take drugs? - What do you mean here? If you are brought up poorly, you grow up with bad manners incl on the road

sbst275 SG

Then is my fault, it should be $2M

But if you incl OPC, it could end up be as low as $1M

nomood SG

Hmm, i have driven on the NS Highway several times, and I say, MY drivers does have a significantly better road culture then singapore drivers. At least they bother to give way, switch to left lane, etc etc. Perhaps you're right about the road rage, and perhaps that's what gives rise to better road culture. but irregardless, they certainly seem to be more courteous on the highway.
Off the highway, it does seem rather daunting driving in M'sia. But seriously, if you drive in M'sia, you'll find that there is a lot less honking and taunting if you were just certain about your own driving skills. People do give way; it's a driving culture thing.

As for the highway code, i don't htink they've updated much. It's simply an insertion of a few pages now & there.

Regarding the last point, i think you're just being plain childish here. bad manners doesn't equate to poor driving. Or poor road manners for that matter. i mean, seriously, you're working on the 'poor people can't appreciate abolone' framework here.

I dont' necessarily agree with everything love_supreme has said so far, but i think that he's obviously the much more seasoned and experienced driver here. IMO, it's the naunces that he picks up that shows, not the nonsense ideals which are so annoyingly common with new drivers.

sbst275 SG

Yeap, they give way to traffic

But as to speeding, it can be irritating... Tailgating

Highway code. Then what do you expect them to update? Suggest bef saying

nomood SG

Mr. Green +1

sbst275 SG

The only reason why our roads are hostile is still manners

Esp those Mercedes, they dun give a da** on ppl crossing the roads, in fact accidents involving pedestriain often involves Premium cars

nomood SG

yah, see, that's where you gotta be in tune. If they tailgate, just switch to the left lane.

If not, it's probably low speed traffic. Drive slow and you'd probably be fine.

With regards to the highway code, there has been no significant inclusion of *any new road manners which one would expect from a developed country with an appropriate developed level of road systems.

Whilst I'm not about to whip out the highway code here, the book which I studied was effectively the same which my aunt studied (15-20 years ago?) and the one others have studied around 1 year ago. Road rules, and nothing but road rules. Sure they've updated the ERP timings and Bus lane timings as well, but that's not what the highway code is really about, is it?

Now, the one that i studied in australia, that's properly updated. inclusion of road rules, evasive actions, what to do when tailgated etc etc, and the road manners which love_supreme so supremely advocates. sure, we'd pick these up as we go along, but wouldn't it be kindda nice if we gave the new drivers a better start? but i digress, because i suspect this is entirely irrelevant to the suggestions which love_supreme was making.

case in point, it shows how nonchalent the authorities' attitude towards the driver's education is; with a somewhat apparent flawed logic (or at least the prevalent opinion amongst fellow drivers, your'e free to disagree) of 'make our test harder = better drivers'. I think it's the beauracratic attitude which love supreme can't stand, which i think is perfectly understandable. Wink

*edit, incomplete sentence.

sbst275 SG

That NS Highway, it all depends. If there is a bus in front, ppl usually give way or a lorry at the left lane and you wanna overtake. Otherwise they just tailgate lor

Test harder dun really make better drivers sometimes. It is still psycological

As for highway code, if there are good feedback, I dun think TP really mind receving such feedbacks

nomood SG

Let's not go down the stereotype route anymore shall we?

And no, 'manners' is not the *only* reason why our roads are hostile. you might wanna read up various other articles with regards to road rage first. A fine example would be a prior issue of Time magazine's report on asia's killer traffic, entitled "asia killer's traffic" earlier in the year. or last, i can't remember. poor planning, thrash cars, disregard for the law, etc all contributes to that.

but ya, manners in the sense of road manners is one good reason why our roads are hostile. which was what l_s was again, talking about. and not manners as in, what your mom told you about picking your teeth at the table. Mr. Green

sbst275 SG

Nah...

Somehow I do feel that our roads are not safe because of lifestyle

nomood SG

Lifestyle in general, fine. which i think includes the frustration which l_s has for LTA!

not manners. Wink and certainly not upbringing. gosh, i cannot believe how l_s allowed his intent and topic to be distorted so far.

sbst275 SG

Actually, sometimes it is all based on personal views.

nomood SG

and hence i think we can all be in agreement that l_s was never really quite wrong in his views. Wink

coz' i for one, happen to think that he raises some very valid points.

Love Supreme SG

Been there done that too many times. Not sure about the weapon, there could be people trying to rob you too. but that has got nothing to do with road manners. at least they dont road hog, and the dont simple use their high beams at night,

ROAD MARKING, are just like updating your address book. If you dont know how to observe road manners it is still the same shi.T. get it?

There is something call RULES and LAW in this country. Didnt you noticed that we are talking about LTA and TP? not talking about you and me trying to enforce road manner in this country? FYI, bad up bringing doesnt = bad road manners. I think many of times, the RICH Fu.ckers are the one that has the worst road manners.

Love Supreme SG

Lets not debate or speculate about OPC demand. Bottom line is more cars = more revenue. More congestion = more reason for ERP gantry.

This is the fu.cking scam by LTA lah. Just wait and see.

Love Supreme SG

KNN.....I am wondering if our LTA or TP is doing anything to control those damn idiots with heavily tinted cars? Before when you travel at night, you can easily see a few cars in front of you, but now with those fu.cker driving those car with heavy tinted rear windmirror, you can hardly see a thing. NOT EVEN THEIR BRAKE LIGHTS!!

I am just wondering why our so call world class LTA and TP, can allow things like this to happend? KNN!!! stop catching people speeding lah., your damn bloody policy to allow tinted glass is creating unnecessary problem to road user...

Tinted rear windmirror should be BAN!!!

sbst275 SG

So no revenue, where are they going to get $$ for education, defence, and that long list?

sbst275 SG

Road rage does sometimes goes to road manners

Sometimes accidents happen because ppl dun want to give way and worst, just cut into the gap by speeding... Sometimes causing a accident...

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