Originally posted by earthlings73:
Atobe, you switched your position regularly. It's kind of hard to
follow your logic. In case you are wondering why Heng and I were
confused, I will point out just a few of these
contradictions:
I am surprised that your HOMOSEXUAL PREFERENCES enable you to
see that I have switched my position regularly 
Have I not made it quite clear that my effort in all my posts was
to debunk your claim that there is POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE to this
thread.
:
1) You stated that gay issues are non-political, but you failed to
show that those issues I had raised had no social-political
implications
You mentioned too much about the poor attitude of society in
discriminating of the HOMOSEXUAL Community - but were there any
POLITCAL issues related to the HOMOSEXUAL activities that YOU have
CLAIMED this thread to be ?
Should it not be YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to prove the POLITICAL
PERSPECTIVES on the HOMOSEXUAL ISSUES that you have raised ?
Should I be helping you to prove your preferred variety of
HOMOSEXUAL positions in your postings ?
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2) You suggested Heng to look at psychiatric studies, but you
failed to accept how the current psychology/psychiatry community
look at this issue
Do all discussion need to end in a concesus ?
Each of us have our own position, and if you can show the relevance
of your postings to qualify your thread to have a POLITICAL
PERSPECTIVE, perhaps we could see a concensus.
Can the Psychological/Psychiatric reports of HOMOSEXUALS prove your
point of this HOMOSEXUAL THREAD having a POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE
?
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3) You claim that gay genes cannot be passed on, but you went on to
suggest that even handicapped, people of lower intelligence can
negate their conditions
Did I mention that handicapped people of lower intelligence can
negate their conditions - and perhaps become LKY - or did my
postings suggest that at least these handicap people will HELP
THEMSELVES to overcome or NEGATE their condition ?
If you prefer to argue for the sake of argument, what is the point
?
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4) You claim that Asian religion does not accept homosexuality,
without addressing why scriptures from these religions did not
mention anything about same-sex behaviours
Has the Singapore Education System deteriorated to the extent of
spoon-feeding of specific facts ?
Have not all the reference sites that I have referred you to -
concerning the great Religions of Christianity, Islam, Budhism,
Hinduism - made references to HOMOSEXUALITY - and that such
HOMOSEXUALITY is to be condemned ?
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5) You claim that gays are not discriminated, but you are hurling
insults after insults and also, you had not demonstrated that those
national policies I've brought up are not discriminating
gays
Will you care to read my text in reply to your post concerning
discriminations in jobs, housing, and inheritance ?
Did I not address your repeated lamentation that only the
HOMOSEXUAL Community has been discriminated ?
Did I not indicate that the NORMAL Bachelors and Spinsters are also
discriminated by the same National Policies that have affected
HOMOSEXUALS ?
"Claims of Insults " - is the last act of defense to one's
untenable and desparate position in an argument, and is the most
face saving way out of a cul-de-sac argument.
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6) You claim that gays are abormal, but you failed to argue against
APA's stance on this issue
APA's stance is not GOD's Final Word on this issue - why are you
so drawn to the liberal views of a Foreign Society ?
Should you not make such views relevant to your own community - not
the narrow HOMOSEXUAL Community that you associate with, but to the
larger community that you are tangled up with in your daily
dealings ?
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7) You claim that gays are unnatural, but you failed to show that
why homosexualism can be found in animals (and these animals are
not extinct even until today)
Have you not heard of some sub-species that are designed to
self-replicate and self-produce ?
Are you suggesting that HOMOSEXUALS can perform the same tasks of
giving BIRTH to PREVENT SELF-EXTINCTION, by way of SEXUAL EFFORTS
from two persons of the SAME SEX ?
If HOMOSEXUALS can perform this miraculous task as the sub-species
have been design, then it will not be rude to say that HOMOSEXUALS
are part of the SUB-SPECIES
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"Tolerance of gays" will give way to "Promotion of
homosexualism" when Psychologists had clearly articulated that
"Change therapy" is dangerous. If gay can change to become
straight, the reverse is true as well. etc
As I had mentioned in one of my postings that there are
HOMOSEXUALS that are not effeminated, and physically-emotionally
show all signs of normality but have HOMOSEXUAL leanings.
So there are people - who appear 'straight' or NORMAL - but have
HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES; and I have brought it up in the article
referring to Rock Hudson - which you claimed was a scare
issue.
How to debate with you, when you prefer to accept and reject my
posting of those issues - as and when it suits your position
?
:
I mean if we want to have a fruitful discussion, shouldn't we at
least have a clear stand?
Further, it is also important to show why you came to such
assumptions:
1) All gays have nothing to do other than sex
2) All gays are effeminate
3) All gays are promiscuous
4) All gays are rapers and paedophiles
etc
Is my stand not clear enough on the issue of HOMOSEXUAL ISSUES -
that there is NO POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE for this thread to exist in
this SC ?
Are you testing my patience with a repeat of the same issues that
have stretched across this entire Pages 13 and 14 of this thread
?
Just to scratch the surface on the incorrectness of your
post:
1) All gays have nothing to do other than sex - read my post again
on this topic.
2) All gays are effeminate - did I not mention the two types of
HOMOSEXUALS ?
3) All gays are promiscuous - is it surprising that you should come
to this conclusion with a view that only look through a 'black
hole' ?
Try reading my piece of marriage for the NORMALS and the
HOMOSEXUALS.
4) All gays are rapers and paedophiles - you have a tendency to
misquote or quote the issue out-of-context. It will be helpful if
you will extract the entire paragraph from which this words came
about to mould your view through the 'black hole'.
