ChingAlvin SG Its not a job, so we wont be paid like collar workers, only allowances just like when u are in sec sch.
oxford mushroom SG And to be called 'whiners'...at the end of the day, they will give your jobs to the girls and foreign talents all the same..
Cindyfeh SG I don't think many are gian about the meal allowanes, lodging and free medical. Male forumites, will you rather exchange all these benefits for a waiver of 2 years of NS?
hmsg SG can u elaborate on how to use the resources on our people? r u sure it we using it to buy tanks only? buying stuff and training also generate jobs for us... isn't it a form of using it on our people? so how much should be set aside for defence vis-a-vis other portfolios?
hmsg SG i totally disagree that nsfs are doing the same job as regulars. regulars are delegated with more responsibilities... so if something goes wrong it is the regulars that suffer most, not the nsfs that carried out the task. regulars are paid more also because they signed on not only liking the job but also take on the risk that they will be there to put their lives at stake. nsfs??? btw never forget that allowances does not equal to salary.
hmsg SG i think what u hv decribed above is happening in all workplaces and is not exclusive to SAF only...
hmsg SG is it really that funny? so u must be laughing at those soldiers that died recently? dun forget the difference is they all died for the country and were willing to put their life at stake... so pls do not job about such thing....
hmsg SG isn't it ironic coz they signed on volunteeringly only on a megre US$900? In exchange for "reservist" duties?? Knowing fully well that there are strong likelihood they would be deployed?
sbst275 SG If they are to be paid like regulars, the defence force size can shrink... Because things like $$ are limited resources
hmsg SG The subject title speaks for itself. How can a non-professional be paid more than a professional???
av98m SG NSF=Source of cheap labour. The government will never pay them anything above "allowance" level, because it is their "duty" to serve their country. But for the MPs, Minsters, grassroots leaders, etc etc etc, we must pay them huge salaries and benefits so that they will serve their country without stealing from its coffers. I guess its because they find it impossible to hire people of integrity these days.
timothytsgsg SG Yes- but my point is that US NG soldiers are being paid more for serving their nation. Besides the fact that the Bush adminstration do spend money on military hardware, they also know they cannot underpay their soldiers(at least from a Singaporean's view anyway). US$900 is about S$1500. To any NSF here, being paid $1500 basic every month is a lot of money. That doesn't include the college sponsorship and other bonus-related pay as well.
jianfish SG So you saying that Nsf don't put our lives at risk as regulars do? Then what the heck am I doing NS for? Anyway the soldiers did not die putting their lives at risk. Nobody wants to put their lives at risk or freaking die. Its just some screw up in the Army. Who wants to die running or murdered in a bath tub. Funny how killing a man this way is not amountable to homocide at least. Also once regulars sign on, they get their regular fat pay even during the 2yrs they serve as Nsf. Since its a duty why not pay them until they finish their NS term? If they give me like 3yr contract I sure take. Also contrary to the believe, I think regulars do enjoy better life than Nsf. Money, the govt got alot. so many $million for NUS high sch, budget surples. Why not return the extra money to the people in Singapore making the sacrifice.
SMAPLionHeart SG USA spends also about 4.5% of their GDP on defense , which amounts to 460++ US billion.. We spend also around that percentage , but a heck of alot of difference when it comes to the salary of the basic soldier
SMAPLionHeart SG USA troops are paid more , but when war comes , you will be the eventually sent to fight over-seas... Judging from previous wartime history of USA , i think its safer to serve with SAF.. at least you get to keep your life and the allowance. Nah , i won't do extra much during training , slack as much as i can.. i don't wanna die after 2 years, i still wanna migrate
