A new radio channel

thinkloud2004 SG

http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/

Click the link under Radio SDP.

Have a wonderful National Day.

Very Happy

the Bear SG

chey.. i thought new rock channel or something like that...

but with CSJ in the party, nothing good will come out of it...

^spidee^ SG

Why Chee Soon Juan talk got ang moh accent one? Laughing

the Bear SG

he has never let anyone forget that he was rejected by NUS, so he went to the US or something like that and studied until he got a PhD..

dunno in what tho' Razz

^spidee^ SG

I see. Mr. Green He sounds so idealistic with all his vision talk, even wants to introduce the dole... Can Singapore survive under SDP? Confused

Elfred SG

I judge the speech/reading not bad. Reminds me of the old days of politicians talking over those oldie radios.

To be fair, this is a very good move for SDP. Maybe YP people should also do the same.

BTW, anyone wanna join YP? And then you can do a podcast as well. Mr. Green

Maybe Speakers' Corner should also let us deposit such MP3 files, then I can left some bedtime grandfather's stories for you guys and gals... Laughing

'...Once upon a time... in a file file away isle...'

ndsef SG

Its funny bec he condemns PAP for getting in Foreign Talents and then send the youths who join SDP overseas to learn and be educated. Question

gorby107 SG

The SDP radio is for propaganda puroses to influenece us the citizens and not sincerity doing their promise being made. If SDP controlled Singapore it will be chaotic like Taiwan having strikes, parliament fights and etc. So we must think properly who to choose for our government.

LazerLordz SG

And you are a prophet?I'd rather see change now that the situation is in such dire straits that new blood could not make things any worse.

Chee may be an idealist, but take a look at where naked pragmatism has brought us?Is it time for a new injection of a different sort? Confused

Atobe SG

Regretably, SDP CSJ seems to be getting the brunt despite his efforts to help Singaporeans to improve our lot.

His style and delivery maybe 'unpolished' but at least he is one with a tertiary education, who is prepared to sacrifice his career to enter politics.

It is surprising that while we can forget the pains that are inflicted on us by the Ruling Party, we will not forget the mistakes of SDP CSJ - and with those mistakes not affecting us in the same manner as the painful policies implemented by the Ruling Party.

Originally posted by the Bear:
he has never let anyone forget that he was rejected by NUS, so he went to the US or something like that and studied until he got a PhD..

dunno in what tho'

Is it so surprising that NUS had rejected CSJ, who then had to pursue his degree course in Psychology from an overseas university ?

How many students in Singapore, who could not manage a pass in Mandarin, and were rejected by NUS or NTU ?

How many qualified Polytechnic Students were rejected by NUS and NTU, but are welcomed to pursue Degree courses in overseas Universities, and with their Polytechnic Diploma accepted for a shorter tertiary course ?

Is it NOT surprising that NUS having rejected CSJ, would then employ him as a Lecturer after he obtained his degree from OVERSEAS ?

From the declarations made by CSJ, it is only unfortunate that CSJ refused to listen to his Faculty Head, who is a Senior Member of the Ruling Party, and proceeded to join the SDP instead of joining the Ruling Party.

For this, CSJ was thrown out of the University on a charge of cheating the tertiary institution with his claims for reimbursement of taxi fares, which was claimed to have been inflated by a Two or Three dollars.

This charge can only be seen to be pettiness, as the travel claims was approved by the Faculty Head more then six months ago and prior to CSJ joining the SDP. The charge can only be seen to be more petty in the fact that different routes taken by the taxi, and different hours of the day with different traffic conditions, can surely affect the taxi meter and the amount by exactly the difference that was being disputed.

The other charge against CSJ, was that he had used university funds for postages to send his research papers that had included his wife's research papers as well. CSJ had claimed that his wife's research was needed to back up his research, and that it was common practise for reference to be made on the work done by others, especially when it is collaborative.

Again, the funds were already approved for disbursement by the Faculty Head a few months before the relationship between them was reported to have deteriorated after CSJ declaration to enter politics with the Opposition Party.

All these issues were raked up after the election, and with the expenses already approved long before CSJ had declared his intention to join SDP.

For further readings on the events of that period that caused CSJ dismissal:

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/workers_rights/wr_se_asia/wr_singapore/wr_chee/trial_observation_report_2003.pdf

http://www.blogger.com/email-post.g?blogID=7160428&postID=109260658848967510

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Democratic_Party

Atobe SG

I am surprised that you cannot see a difference when the PAP invite Foreign Talents into Singapore and take on jobs that other Singaporeans could perhaps occupy; while the SDP is sending Singapore Youths overseas to be educated and do not take any jobs from any foreigners.

Is it only the SDP that send Singaporean Youths joining the SDP, to learn and be educated overseas ?

Do you think that we should be praising SDP for investing their funds in the Singapore Youth who joined the SDP, and allow them the opportunity to learn, be educated, and exposed to the teachings of an OPEN WORLD ?

Atobe SG

Originally posted by gorby107:
The SDP radio is for propaganda puroses to influenece us the citizens and not sincerity doing their promise being made. If SDP controlled Singapore it will be chaotic like Taiwan having strikes, parliament fights and etc. So we must think properly who to choose for our government.

It is amazing how Singaporeans are trained by the Ruling Party for the last FORTY YEARS, to truly believe that chaos will land on Singapore when the day comes that the Ruling Party is defeated and replaced by any other Political Party Exclamation

Do you believe that after FORTY YEARS OF LAW AND ORDER under the authoritarian rule of the Ruling Party, Singaporeans remain to be as crude and unsophisticated as the Taiwanese ?

What happen in the last FORTY YEARS of development that was supposed to have resulted in Singapore achieving the FIRST WORLD status ?

What happen in the last FORTY YEARS that was supposed to have given us a SWISS Standard of Living, and enable us to have a gracious life, with Singaporeans enjoying a high standard of culture, social behaviour, and gracious living ?

If all these goals can fade away so quickly when the Ruling Party is voted out of office, it can only mean that all these claims are a sham Exclamation

Would it not be better for us to make changes sooner, if after FORTY YEARS of authoritarian rule by the Ruling Party, our sense of political, cultural and social responsibilities can still end up to be as unruly and crude as the Taiwanese Question

Consider the following statement made in 1956 by LKY:

"Repression, Sir is a habit that grows. I am told it is like making love-it is always easier the second time! The first time there may be pangs of conscience, a sense of guilt. But once embarked on this course with constant repetition you get more and more brazen in the attack. All you have to do is to dissolve organizations and societies and banish and detain the key political workers in these societies. Then miraculously everything is tranquil on the surface. Then an intimidated press and the government-controlled radio together can regularly sing your praises, and slowly and steadily the people are made to forget the evil things that have already been done, or if these things are referred to again they're conveniently distorted and distorted with impunity, because there will be no opposition to contradict."

(Lee Kuan Yew as an opposition PAP member during 1956 speaking to David Marshall)

http://www.geocities.com/kelvintan73/articles/matrix.htm

Atobe SG

The following statements are made by LKY during 1956 - when he was on the Opposition Bench; and during 1964 - as a weaker partner in Malaysia and battling the overwhelming bullying from the ULTRAs.

The statements made are most appropriate now, in view of the current push by the SDP to establish an ALTERNATIVE MEDIA :

Lee Kuan Yew Speaks

Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew, once one of the worlds most articulate voices of freedom, had this to say in 1956 as an opposition member of Parliament:

But either we believe in democracy or we do not. If we do, then we must say categorically, without qualification, that no restraint from any democratic process, other than by ordinary law of the land, should be allowed. If you believe in democracy, you must believe in it unconditionally. If you believe that men should be free, then they should have the right of free association, of free speech, of free publication. Then no law should permit those democratic processes to be set at naught. . .

In a subsequent speech made by LKY, when Singapore was part of the Malaysian federation, Lee articulated his feelings about freedom of the press and media.

Let us get down to fundamentals. Is this an open or a closed society? Is it a society where men can preach ideasthe novel, unorthodox, heresies. . . where there is a constant contest for mens hearts and minds on the basis of what is right, of what is just, or what is in the national interest? Or is it a closed society where the mass mediathe newspapers, journals, publications, TV, radio. . . feed mens minds with a constant drone of sycophantic support for a particular orthodox philosophy?

Ironically, these eloquent statements seem to have faded away, as Singapore has supposedly progress into the First World, and those 'BATTLE CRIES' that appeal for sanity and clear thinking are now conveniently dispensed and forgotten.

FORTY YEARS ago, LKY had offered these ideals so emotionally, appealing to Singaporeans to support his position.

FORTY YEARS later, after gaining the upper hand in politics with the support of Singaporeans who answered his calls by remaining loyal to his politics, these ideals are now suppressed.

thinkloud2004 SG

<< Its funny bec he condemns PAP for getting in Foreign Talents and then send the youths who join SDP overseas to learn and be educated. >>

Let me try to answer the above post by nsdef

Getting in Foreign Talents and sending youths to learn and be educated are obviously two different things. When u bring in foreign talents, you deprive locals of a job position. When our youths (local citizens) go overseas they learn from the foreigners and bring back new ideas that will (hopefully) benefit all of us. And by the way, how do you define "Talents" in the first place?
Shocked

gorby107 SG

Everytime before they are being elected as the government and being the leader as they are the opposition, they would crticise the government not having freedom of speech, lower taxes etc and say that they would bring in this measures if the people elected them. But if they are being elected as the government. They would bring in minimal measures to take place and the rest would be supressed and saying that they are no good or whatever thing. So this shows that all the government in the world is not really perfect and they will sometimes break their promises. So being in a government it is quite difficult to rule over the country and implementing of measures too as they want the country to be peaceful like banning strikes and etc.

Atobe SG

Originally posted by gorby107:
Everytime before they are being elected as the government and being the leader as they are the opposition, they would crticise the government not having freedom of speech, lower taxes etc and say that they would bring in this measures if the people elected them. But if they are being elected as the government. They would bring in minimal measures to take place and the rest would be supressed and saying that they are no good or whatever thing. So this shows that all the government in the world is not really perfect and they will sometimes break their promises. So being in a government it is quite difficult to rule over the country and implementing of measures too as they want the country to be peaceful like banning strikes and etc.

After Chian Shui Bian was elected, the first things he did was to lift the tight reins of controls that the previous Kuomintang Government had placed to govern Taiwan.

Life was more liberal, and the Taiwanese had the freedom to enjoy LIFE within the limits of values prevailing in their society.

It is unfortunate that the infamous Taiwanese temper is part of their character, and this should not prevent Singapore from reaching the same state of FREEDOM that a FIRST WORLD country should enjoy.

In the Philippines, when Marcos was overthrown by People's Power, the Philippines social, cultural, and political Life blossomed; although their economic plights are lessons that we should gather to avoid the same pitfall but NOT NECESSARILY having to tolerate the status quo in Singapore.

In South Korea, after the assasination of Park Chung Hee, dictatorship rule had given way to FULL Democracy, and this can happen when South Korea face the dire and constant threat from Communist North Korea.

South Korea today is an economic power house, due to the FREEDOM that is enjoyed by the largely DISCIPLINED South Korean citizens, who at the same time will not hesistate to gather in PUBLIC PROTEST towards any Government failings or unpopular policies.

The only path for Singapore to progress and move ahead politically, economically, culturally, and socially - is FREEDOM from Authoritarian Rule.

It is only right that Singaporeans should have the same kind of freedom - of choice, access, movement, involvement, participation, expression - as that enjoyed by those countries that are truly in the FIRST WORLD.