Die lah...new PM and DPMs all cold blooded human being

Gazelle SG

I managed to catch the BBC's John Simpson coverage on Singapore speakers corner and it was really funny. They were showing a few ah peh taking their afternoon nap under the shade, and was asking WHO? really listen to the people here? cause mostly are China Town ah peh hanging out there playing chess. Laughing

NathanG5 SG

so its abt freedom of speech..hit on the issue then..y beat round the bush?
if u start this topic on freedom ofspeech..i might even agree with u.. Rolling Eyes

but for me i prefer to hit on the issue "High Cost Of Living"..not toking abt cigerettes, alcohol or able to buy a Lamboghini..but daily stuff we use n do..Busfare, MRT fare, daily product n blah blah blah..so it mainly hit out on GST..i dun want Singapore to be another Japan..

sans-culotte SG

Actually i would really like to know exactly whats the government’s definition of “freedom of speech’’.

Gazelle SG

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/country_profiles/1143240.stm

Singapore is south-east Asia's hi-tech city-state which is famed for its obsession with cleanliness, the conservatism of its leaders and its rules covering activities from chewing gum to bungee-jumping.

The country comprises the main island - linked by causeways to the southern tip of Malaysia - and around 50 smaller islands.

Once a colonial outpost, Singapore has developed into one of the world's most prosperous places - with glittering skyscrapers and a thriving port.

OVERVIEW

The vast majority of the island's population lives in public-housing tower blocks.

The citizens enjoy one of the world's highest standards of living, but also a system of punishments for acts such as busking without a licence or not flushing a public lavatory.

Government-led initiatives encourage Singaporeans to have more babies, be more courteous to each other, and "Speak Good English".

Chinese make up more than 75% of the community, along with Malays and Indians. Singapore also has a large number of foreign workers.

Although a multiparty nation, the People's Action Party (PAP) has been the dominant political force since independence.

Singapore is often referred to a one of Asia's "economic tigers", although it slipped into recession after the 1998 Asian markets crisis.

The country was referred to - less kindly - by the writer William Gibson as "Disneyland with the death penalty".

Gazelle SG

My definition is 'You are allow to talk about anything, just make sure you are only talking to yourself'

MooKu SG

Confused

Will I be right to say that Singaporeans aren't interested in listening to free speech enough to travel to Hong Lim Square? Razz

sans-culotte SG

Originally posted by Gazelle:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/country_profiles/1143240.stm

Singapore is south-east Asia's hi-tech city-state which is famed for its obsession with cleanliness, the conservatism of its leaders and its rules covering activities from chewing gum to bungee-jumping.

[b]Chewing gum banning is no choice...the cleanliness problem caused is no joke.
Bungee-jumping..need further detail on this...
The country comprises the main island - linked by causeways to the southern tip of Malaysia - and around 50 smaller islands.

Once a colonial outpost, Singapore has developed into one of the world's most prosperous places - with glittering skyscrapers and a thriving port.

OVERVIEW

The vast majority of the island's population lives in public-housing tower blocks.

The citizens enjoy one of the world's highest standards of living, but also a system of punishments for acts such as busking without a licence or not flushing a public lavatory.

[color=red]Not flushing public toilets will not get fined....[/color]

Government-led initiatives encourage Singaporeans to have more babies, be more courteous to each other, and "Speak Good English".

This issue is our main problem now and also the major factor in future growth of Singapore. This going to be hard on how government going to encourage us to have more babies. This issue is involved in other factors. Cost of living, education etc..

Nothing wrong about courtecy campaign..Its a must if we need to leave a good impression to other people.

Speak Good English--- Hmm, this will be hard to change...

Chinese make up more than 75% of the community, along with Malays and Indians. Singapore also has a large number of foreign workers.

Although a multiparty nation, the People's Action Party (PAP) has been the dominant political force since independence.

Totally true..

Singapore is often referred to a one of Asia's "economic tigers", although it slipped into recession after the 1998 Asian markets crisis.

true

The country was referred to - less kindly - by the writer William Gibson as "Disneyland with the death penalty".

Our law need to be harsh...else you will not be in sgforums reading posts without worry your safety.
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oldbreadstinks SG

Originally posted by Gazelle:
[b]Free speechSingapore-style
By Carol Divjak
20 June 2000

Such a safety valve has been discussed in official circles for more than a year following the arrest of Singapore Democratic Party secretary general Chee Soon Juan, who was jailed twice last year for speaking in public without a permit and then refusing to pay the fine.

In front of crowds of up to 600, his speeches included reading quotes from the Singapore Constitution guaranteeing free speech. His colleague Wong Hong Toy faced fines or jail for assisting Chee by adjusting a microphone and speaker. They were charged under the Public Entertainment Act, which has now been relaxed for the purposes of the Speakers' Corner.

Chee's fate provoked considerable unfavourable comment in the Western media, as well as disquiet among business and professional people in Singapore. Like others in the pro-democracy movement throughout the Asian region, Chee is attempting to replace an autocratic government with one less subject to cronyism and more accountable to the demands of international capital.

The Singapore government, sensitive to developments such as the fall of Suharto in neighbouring Indonesia, and aware of seething resentment over the lack of democratic rights, is being forced to make some cosmetic changeshence Speakers' Corner.

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WTF after reading this , i felt like i've been oppressed my whole life and i didn't even know it!?! sounds like the westerners think that we're all living in a prison?
and well what do you know? Chee's a hero now in the eyes of the western media ? Rolling Eyes

and about the fining for not flushing toliets?
most toliets are automatics now, so when it doesn't flush, do we fine the users or the owners? Laughing

Nelstar SG

Who do you suggest as an alternative before you decide they were bad choices?

In the first place, did we have alternatives? Laughing

Nelstar SG

As least put some candidates of your choice for a more lenient government and state their credentials and achievements and contrast the benefits of another candidate. I'm tired of listening to problems. We can see them.

Solutions, gentlemen! Solutions! Don't be Dr. Chee Soon Juan and rave madly. Speak with necessary evidence and provide enough credits and solutions to solve our daily situations.

You know what my boss used to tell me at the meeting?

"So you identified the problem, have you got a solution?"

You know why PAP is still supported by Singaporeans? Because A=Action. They aim to achieve. Even if they achieve little.

I admit I'm not capable of leading a country, but I'm at least smart enough to see that there's no point in electing a mad man raving at the Government's shortcomings compared to someone doing the job badly. It is better having a job done, than no job done.

Gazelle SG

Originally posted by Nelstar:
As least put some candidates of your choice for a more lenient government and state their credentials and achievements and contrast the benefits of another candidate. I'm tired of listening to problems. We can see them.

Solutions, gentlemen! Solutions! Don't be Dr. Chee Soon Juan and rave madly. Speak with necessary evidence and provide enough credits and solutions to solve our daily situations.

[b]Yeah, any idea who is reading this forum? If you want to discuss about solution, go to gov. feedback website such as http://app.feedback.gov.sg/asp/index.asp I wont wanna waste my time suggesting something to people who are wankers

You know what my boss used to tell me at the meeting?

"So you identified the problem, have you got a solution?"

Yeah, so who is the boss here? You?

You know why PAP is still supported by Singaporeans? Because A=Action. They aim to achieve. Even if they achieve little.

I admit I'm not capable of leading a country, but I'm at least smart enough to see that there's no point in electing a mad man raving at the Government's shortcomings compared to someone doing the job badly. It is better having a job done, than no job done.[/b]

If you are smart enough, you wont be wasting your time to use sgforum as a platform to discuss about politic in detail and you should know that no job will ever get done here.

Gazelle SG

I happen to know S R Nathan as Singapore president, who happens to be Hindu.

There is nothing wrong with indian, I think they are very smart people.
They talk alot, (which is why most lawyer are indian), they are good traders and tough negotiator, they are extreme calculative. The only biggest problem is that, not many people can trust them.

tspg SG

My boy, you have obviously never attended a political rally before. As individuals each man is sane and rational. In a crowd, people lose control of themselves. Chee is a trouble maker cum agitator. If he were to fan the sentiments of a big crowd outside the Istana and they go on a rampage and leave a path of destruction in Orchad Rd, is that good for Singapore ?

The internet is a better and more developed platform for political discussion than it is 4 years ago. You are allow to crap and spew your rhetorics here. If this is not call FOS then what is it ?

And BTW you have an open-minded attitude towards sex. I am sure there are many people like you. But as a whole Singapore is a conservative society. Most gers do not behave like Annabel Chong and most guys do not go around sniffing panties or shocking their colleagues. Only a very small group of ppl take part in orgies.

Gazelle SG

Originally posted by tspg:

My boy, you have obviously never attended a political rally before. As individuals each man is sane and rational. In a crowd, people lose control of themselves. Chee is a trouble maker cum agitator. If he were to fan the sentiments of a big crowd outside the Istana and they go on a rampage and leave a path of destruction in Orchad Rd, is that good for Singapore ?

[b]Yeah, the protesters who were arrested outside US embassy was not even shouting or anything. I understand they were just hanging banners and it was really peaceful. what do you have to say aobut this?

The internet is a better and more developed platform for political discussion than it is 4 years ago. You are allow to crap and spew your rhetorics here. If this is not call FOS then what is it ?

The internet is the most dangerous and ineffective platform for political discussion and exercising freedom of speech.
a) Internet activities are regulated in Singapore
b) This is not speech, this is freedom to write and type. how many people do you get to communicate with? can you get people excited after reading your posting?
c) What credibility do you have by calling yourself SPG (sarong party girl) and pretending to be someone? what makes you think that people believe what you say?

And BTW you have an open-minded attitude towards sex. I am sure there are many people like you. But as a whole Singapore is a conservative society. Most gers do not behave like Annabel Chong and most guys do not go around sniffing panties or shocking their colleagues. Only a very small group of ppl take part in orgies.

what is wrong with being adventurous in sex? Does it mean that people who discuss about sex loses it right to speak and talk about politics?

Bill Clinton smoke marijuana when he was a teenage and become the president of the world most powerful nation. why didnt the american ban him from politics? Despite getting a BJ by a white house intern in his oval office, people from all over the world are still paying thousand of dollars to listen to his speech. Is the world stupid?

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Who are you to judge by the way?

tspg SG

I dun judge. I merely state my observations and viewpts.

ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE

Gazelle SG

Originally posted by tspg:
I dun judge. I merely state my observations and viewpts.

[b]ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE [/b]

My observation and viewpoints tellls me that you need to improve your observation skills and in the mean time should stick to your Chit Chat session discussing about why this and why that. However I am glad to know that at least there are teenage like you who knows that Lee Hsien Loong is our new PM My Boy!! Cool

tspg SG

Originally posted by Gazelle:

My observation and viewpoints tellls me that you need to improve your observation skills and in the mean time should stick to your Chit Chat session discussing about why this and why that. However I am glad to know that at least there are teenage like you who knows that Lee Hsien Loong is our new PM [b]My Boy!! Cool

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Look whos talking. If I were a boy then you are still in the sperm stage. Laughing

oldbreadstinks SG

and
My observation and viewpoints tellls me SHABI!

isn't this what you call qiang ci duo li?

Gazelle SG

Presuming my observation is wrong and you are right, I would think that you should be in your 40s right now. It is hard to believe someone in his 40s to have such mental maturity like you. What do you mean by

I SAY WHAT I WANT THAT'S MY WAY OF NINJA. Laughing

NathanG5 SG

so y bring in the indian? since u claim u are so well read..u shld have known that Nathan a english name..im sure u seldom read abt our president in paper before he was a president right..

base on your so call view..its obviously a racist comment by u...u generalise the indian population..

farking racist!

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