Originally quoted by oldbreadstinks:
Originally posted by Atobe:
You thought wrong, as I do not recall making such a grand standing
statement - calling Singaporeans to stand-up whenever we see
anything wrong.
Do you always read with your eyes open, but with your mind closed
?
if my mind is closed , do you think i would have said anything
on this?
and yes unfortunately you HAVE asked for singaporeans to stand up
to be counted and not to let the pap continue to rule singapore
with policies which you do not think are "right"
Yes, you have said alot, but did you say anything of any substance,
or simply filling the space on the server - which seems to be your
style "????" ?
Were you reading blindly, even when you think your mind was not
closed to whatever you are reading, since you have already made up
your mind towards a specific direction despite whatever you are
reading ?
Did I ask Singaporeans to stand and be counted ?
Where have you read such a statement from my postings ?
Or did you simply infer from your own reading of my statements and
come to your own preferred conclusions ?
Again, the question of reading with eyes open but the mind closed
?
Originally quoted by oldbreadstinks:
Originally posted by Atobe:
If you are not responding to the issue, and have such a poor
understanding of the written text, are you certain that the hat
that you choose is not too small for such a big head that seems to
be over inflated with hot air ?
the issue i'm refering to is your hat not mine, as i have stated
my concern is the way you post not the issues you are trying to add
in right now
if i am having a poor understanding of the written text it must be
due to the irrelevant text thats seems to be spread out all over
the place
Am I correct to understand that you have appointed yourself as the
guardian angel to tspg, or simply to be my 'watch dog' ?
You prefer to take issue with my style and approach in challenging
the ideas from tspg, but have no alternative ideas to the issues
themselves ?
Are you sure you qualified enough to take on such a role
?
Originally quoted by oldbreadstinks:
[quote]Originally posted by Atobe:
You are most welcome to be entertained, just be sure that you can
take what you throw at others.
You are entitled to see, read and interprete the details to suit
your preferred manner of thinking, and it is entirely your
prerogative.
In a debate or discussion of issues, it is a matter of which idea
prevails, and whose argument is more convincing.
If I can turn your view or judgment around, it is not simply me
winning and you losing.
The fact that both sides can see and agree to a point of view that
allow both sides to finally come to agreement, and see it as the
correct view - will result in victory for both sides.
It is plain childishness and immaturity to see debate as merely
winning and losing from a contest of will; when it should be an
exchange of ideas, and testing these ideas by writing, to argue and
debate to show the correctness or incorrectness of each other's
views.
It is no disgrace to concede to logic.
It is a disgrace to be petty, small minded, pompous, self-assuming,
condescending, abusive, insulting, and worse of all - to be
foolishly illogical.
You certainly have alot to learn and brush up in your reading
abiliity first, before you try to teach anyone
something.
your words do not seem match your actions judging by whats been
going on fro the last few pages but of course i am entitled to see,
read and interprete the details to suit my preferred manner of
thinking, and it is entirely my prerogative.
and since as you said that is my right
why then is this
"The fact that both sides can see and agree to a point of view that
allow both sides to finally come to agreement, and see it as the
correct view - will result in victory for both sides."
by my own judgement(naturally) not what i see in the course of your
actions
and why has my judgment led me to perceive that the "debate" has
turned away from politics? and into the childish act you have
mention?
You seem to be having a problem with an inability in judgment or
perhaps simply taking on issues that you can barely cope.
So far you have been making many statements but without any
substantive directions.
General statements are useless, you take the trouble to quote from
my piece, and make general statements of my mistaken behaviour of
intolerance towards 'tspg' in my other posts; and yet you have not
even shown which paragraphs or statements or posts that you have
found my behavior to be offensive.
Amazing way of quoting an article that bears no relevance to the
one that you are referring to. Are you certain of your own position
or simply working on your 'Tai Chi' style of debating ?
continuing post by oldbreadstinks:
It is a disgrace to be petty, small minded, pompous, self-assuming,
condescending, abusive, insulting, and worse of all - to be
foolishly illogical.
yes of course , you agree too don't you?
then tell me WHY ARE YOU ACTING THIS WAY?
and i believe that i have nothing to learn concerning reading
ability as of now
but unless i am one of those " need to learn their place, is there
any hope for sgforums newbies"newbies you were talking about, then
i have nothing to say then
Which post of mine have you found to be abusive, insulting and
foolishly illogical ?
Are you now attempting to behave in a foolishly illogical, abusive
and insulting manner by making unsubstantiated claims from my posts
that you claim to be offensive ?
It remains your prerogative to learn nothing when you cannot
recognise the tip of your own nose from your own face.
If such is the standard of understanding and writing about politics
in this sgForums, then is there any hope of any kind of quality
discussion - when supposedly abstract replies take the form of
"????" , and nonsensical kiddie jokes about "how many ministers
does it take to change a light bulb ?"
