Homosexual

last SG · 2004-05-01T04:04:02+00:00

maybe? because things would just get more expensive to solve the “problem” of all that extra money

JazzyJas SG

hey i want to change my status to homosexual..

CX SG

Originally posted by PRP:
CX,
You are wrong to say Austrialia society is narrow-minded & bigoted just because of some govt policies.

OH? u have another word for policies that infringes human rights, disregards compassion and rooted in the selfish interests of politicians to get re-elected?

so enlighten me... what do you call them?

i do not judge a society by the actions of their government. by at the same time, pple get the governments they deserve since they do get to vote.

Westerners are most liberal about sex.Probably some of our ppl here copy their sexual values & lifestyles.

bollocks... thats like saying all asian men are short and all asian women have small feet.

and i object to what u term "westerners". europe is more liberal than america in issues regarding sexual norms. but if u went down to the "Bible Belt" in the states, u'll be shocked at how conservative they are.

at the same time, the state of Massachusetts has legalized same-sex marriages.

u just displayed an outright ignorance of "western" societies. u must've been watching too much t.v.

and what makes u think that ASIAN societies ALWAYS had a conservative attitude towards sexual norms?

when white men first set foot here in southeast asia, one of their observation was that the women had a great deal of sexual autonomy.

"norms" are socially defined. there is nothing "natural" about them. certain worldviews exist today not because they were "right", but because they were IMPOSED...

it does not mean that it was ALWAYS like that, it does not mean that this new "norm" is "better" and it does not mean that norms cannot change.

Australia PM wants to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union.By doing so,homosexual ppl would probably not like it.Why would he want to do it?Readers, pls think!

because he wants to win votes from ignorant, conservative voters who outnumbers gay voters? Rolling Eyes .

politicians makes decisions based on raw numbers; polls, surveys, probabilities... not because certain decisions are more "correct" than others. it is only "correct" insofar as it is popular. THAT's politics for u.

[email protected] SG

wahahaha... sure. u may call me that but now i can call u either blind or idiot. DID u ever read carefully my post in which i used siggy? here let me show u again:

TRANSLATION: CX: JUST OCCURED TO ME... PRP'S SIGGY IS A SORT OF IRONY

now... did i say u are a siggy? no i said YOUR siggy. YOUR means something belonging to u, it does not me 'you're'. geddit? nowadays the english standard has dropped so much that basic english is not understood anymore? sad
so I said your siggy, meaning: "PRP's signature". I did not say "siggy PRP". dun u think trying to justify your stupid mistake by using it in this context makes u seem all the more a fool? please. either bother to read carefully, or go get some eyedrops, or go get a brain transplant.

and yes I do think the australian PM is narrow minded. what if one day gays took over the world and judged that being straight is "wrong", how would YOU feel then?

greengoblin SG

CX, perhaps he has never heard of the Kama Sutra :p Maybe he needs to do some research into the Japanese and perhaps Tang Dynasty cultures then Smile

greengoblin SG

Perhaps you should read into my statement too...that there is no universal morality. What you deem is correct may not be in others eyes.

Gosh...I am going back to talk to my dog...at least he has a better understanding of the English Language....

CX and Heng Very Happy Both of you have great stamina...

[email protected] SG

well.... now u know what we're dealing with...
*shakes head*

CX SG

merci beaucoup... Mr. Green

greengoblin SG

Vous êtes bienvenu Mr. Green

PRP SG

CX,
It's wrong of u to say Australia society is narrow-minded & bigoted.

Westerners are most liberal about sex.Probably many ppl here imimate their lifestyles and sexual values.

Austrailia PM wants to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union.Homos most likely would not like it.Why would he want to do so?Readers, pls think.

CX SG

Originally posted by PRP:
CX,
It's wrong of u to say Australia society is narrow-minded & bigoted.

australian society is not he topic being discussed here. if u like that place so much, move there. hardly anyone's business but your own.

Westerners are most liberal about sex.Probably many ppl here imimate their lifestyles and sexual values.

westerners = who? dutch? british? bible-belt american? red-neck american? hippie american?

u're talking COCK understand! i already told u! if u're talking about EUROPE, some societies ARE indeed very liberal... but some are NOT.

if u're talking about AMERICAN society, a big part is VERY conservative!

if u were in san francisco and massachusetts, gay lifestyle is pretty well accepted.

if u were in texas and south carolina, u'll be right at home... with all the narrow-minded redneck ignoramus.

Austrailia PM wants to amend the law to define marriage as heterosexual union.Homos most likely would not like it.Why would he want to do so?Readers, pls think.

already told u its cos of POLITICS. u're the only one not thinking here...

PRP SG

Dear readers,

Someone wants to prevent me from speaking here.That's way I couldn't post msg here last few days.It seems he doesn't want u to read my opinions.Look like my opinions are dagerous.Now, who is small-minded?

In fact,I'm a bit scarce to come to this forum because I'm afraid to get bugs or virus to my computer.

PRP SG

CX has said his piece,i maintain my opinion as below is correct.

greengoblin SG

PRP...just for interest sake...have you ever ventured abroad? I am really interested how you come with your views and yet maintain that they are correct.

To give a sweeping statement that all Westerners are liberal about sexual matters is plain hogwash...there must be supporting proof of your statement...

I have Americian friends who are more conservative than most of my friends down here and most of their community are as such. The statement of yours without proof will imply you to be a racist bigot. So please support your statements properly before making such a claim

It is like Chicken Little claiming the sky is falling just because an acorn hit its head.

CX SG

from this, we can see that you:

(a) don't know history.

(b) don't know current affairs.

(c) don't know the extent of your own ignorance.

as mentioned previously, if ignorance is bliss, then YOU are the happiest man alive. u have my congratulations.

PRP SG

CX,
I disagree with your views on me.I'm not ignorance about sex at all.In fact I have Australian PM's opinion to support my stand.Don't just rebut my opinions, show me that u can give your own fresh argument to support your stand.

greengoblin SG

It is not enough to get only one person's view to back up your claims. I can easily back up genocide by claiming Hilter supported it. But will it be correct?

PRP you have to learn to open up to more views before coming to a conclusion of things. There are just too many angles to an issue and to just selectively support one to justify your arguments is worng and to an extend illogical.

CX SG

of course u're not ignorant about sex... u have a penis. u know where to find a vagina... voila! there u have it!

and THAT sums up your understanding of many things as well... superficial.

and why is the austrailan pm's views more valid, or more sensible than your position? is george w. bush's stand on iraq more sensible than anybody's? is kim il sung right about the state of his country's economy and his people's welfare?

my stand has been consistent throughout. sexuality is a construct. societies did not always see sex as sin or homosexuality as bad. just because it did because of a predominant ideology / religion doesn't make is "right". it was like that only because it was forcefully imposed, not because it was "natural" or "right" because OTHER ways of looking at the same issues existed BEFORE the coming of world religions and western imperialism.

and you STILL haven't presented ANY proof of your position. all u did was bring up the views of a australian politician trying to win conservative votes.

PRP SG

Greengoblin,
The view of Austrailian PM is not the only arguement to support my stand.I've put up many msg to argue agaisnt the view that homo is neither right nor wrong and also to argue that homo is wrong.I suggest u read some of my past msg if u haven't read them.

CX,
Just show u one 'proof':

If a dictator rules this world and order all human sex must be only homosex.After 100 or so years, human race would be extinct from this earth.Homosex can bring this kind of consequence.Isn't homo wrong?

Where is your 'proof' that homo is right?

CX SG

and is that "proof" grounded in good sense?

do human beings engage in sex merely to reproduce?

if so, then why do we have concepts like "love", "responsibility" and "pleasure" ?

do "homosexuals" ONLY engage in homosexual sex?

and do hetrosexual couples necessarily have sex ONLY to have children?

i had an interesting discussion with Stupidissmart about this once... he said "no, couples do not have sex just to have babies so birth control should not be banned by certain religion" while i played the devil's advocate to that view just to see how far the opposing view made sense and found that it only makes sense if u adhere to the strictest and most rigid intepretation of catholic doctrine, which practically nobody does.

sex and procreation are NOT intrinsically linked. human beings do not have sex just to reproduce. to suggest that is to degrade humanity to the level of wild beasts.

we are mammals and we are primates but we are also so much more because we feel and we can express our feelings and because we possess the faculty of thought ( some of us do anyway... )

so if we take reproduction out of the equation and see intimate relationships in terms that defines us as HUMANS: qualities of love, compassion, commitment, mutual respect, then why is gender such a big deal? why can't two people of the same gender share such feelings for each other?

PRP SG

When i don’t speak,CX has nothing to say too.Reader,do u know why he behave in such manner?

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