Would u Choose to be Born a Singaporean???

CX SG

Originally posted by Atobe:

CX, it is certainly unfortunate that marriages are today being dictated by the necessity of getting a roof over the head first, without considering the long-term implication of the good Sense of Marriage.

not that they're intrinsically linked, but young singaporeans perceive very few alternatives.

many want to move out of their parent's house and start a new life, but that means tying yourself down with a mortgage and a marriage... not the smartest move, but what's the alternative?

a bachelor's pad? i wonder why many of my peers haven't thought about that yet... maybe its the perception that renting a house is a waste of money. but they fail to see that renting gives greater flexibility...

It seems that the Dollar and Sense has to be linked in this discussion even if we try to avoid it, and simply based on the merit of having babies.

well, i'm going a little further back in the process... before the baby... and if the situations i've described strikes a chord with the pple in my generation then i guess we have a pretty good idea why they feel they can't afford to have kids.

there are 2 groups actually: they overspent and can't afford it OR they have money but they don't wanna spend it on having a baby.

its the second group that i was initially referring to.

Comparing the comfort of a secure and apolitical career that you are having, it will be quite admirable on the part of Dr Chee Soon Juan to be able to raised two kids - despite his public political position with the accompanying financial hardships, and his entanglement with the Law.

One will then have to ask, what is the real excuse in the other Singaporeans of Dr Chees generation in not having children ?

narcissism as i suggested? pple too in love with themselves and their lifestyles can't bear to sacrifice it just ot bring another life into the world.

sometimes its just that.

No, the suggestion of having babies to help you find relief from sinus is not intended to be a light hearted comment.

An ENT Specialist, from Singapore General Hospital, once informed me that sinus is also a symptom of mental stress, and may not necessarily be inflicted by some genetic, nor a physical defect in the nose.

mine's heriditary... don't think babies would help me...

tell Socrates to have one then... he's the one that's married Mr. Green

CenturionMBT SG

I dunno, nowadays, everybody seems to be so money oriented. happiness is equated to the amount of luxury items. People get dissatishfied easily. The reason why many people can't get along with their lives is because they don't want to adapt regardless of the situation. They prefer to keep a lavish lifestyle rather than to downgrade during bad times. True, this is countrary to the swiss living thing, the gct promised us. But couldn't we be more realistic?
I have friends in dept too. But many of them fall into this dept because during good times they spend much of their money on expensive houses, cars and luxurious items etc. But when times are bad and they lose a large proportion of their incomes, they start to have problems paying for their loans. I mean such things could be controlled by individuals. It is all about foresight. Like the weather, nothing can never be ideal at al all times. So save for a rainy day. Never know when you will need those extra cash.
As for jobs, you can't satishfy the whole world,everything goes by demand and supply. I am no economics expert, but every body knows that when there are low demands for something you can't just make extra jobs to accomodate them.I dunno about others, but if i were retrenched, i am willing to take on any job that pass my way, just to keep myself alive and wait till better times pass my way. The thing is, people are getting choosy nowadays. So many lament about the lack of jobs etc. So looking from another perspective, Singapore ain't that bad, it is just how you adapt.

ShutterBug SG

Personally, if I were posed such a question, I'd say I wish I was never borned.

This world is a beautiful one, but the human race, is so ugly.

I love the earth, I hate the peoples.

pikamaster SG

CX,
last year there was a letter to the Straits Times that sparked off intense discussion. a person wrote in to indicate her observation that in primary schools, CHinese students were forming their own groupings which excluded other races. her nephew and a few of her friends' children (from other schools) had the same thing occurring in their schools.

but i agree with ur other pts anyway....hopefully that doesn't confirm that i'm an idealist?

the concerned pikamaster

CX SG

to varying degrees, we're always more comfortable with pple of our own ethnic groups or religion. we shouldn't need to feel alarmed about that.

what's more important is that we set the right atmosphere for kids to feel comfortable with pple of other ethnic groups.

we don't have to force them to have a best friend of another ethnicity... wouldn't it be just weird if we had to go out of our way to avoid offending acquaintances of different ethnicity and religion? wouldn't that lead to greater distance betw the different groups?

we shouldn't be too conscious about such things.

nismoS132 SG

me too, i even find it hard working in an air con environment Razz

pikamaster SG

point taken, but yet...do you think then that pple r "too conscious" of such things?

CX SG

according to Atobe, it can be healed by having a baby and smelling it... or something ike that... go read it yourself... Mr. Green

CX SG

depends on the person right? Laughing how to generalise???

i don't care... i can eat beef in front of muslim hindu and pork in front of my muslim friends and we're all so comfortable with each other that we don't think twice about it...

it depends to a large extent how close u are with these friends also lah... its easy to imagine insults when u're with someone u don't really know... so i guess there's a need to be more careful as well... but being "too conscious" can, i feel, be very discomforting as well...

Atobe SG

To pikamaster and CX,

If it is too much trouble to have babies for its own merit, and enjoy the side benefits of curing your sinus problems, perhaps it maybe easier to help with your sinus problems by using an ioniser that generates negative ions in the environment that you are in.

Asmathic patients seems to benefit from negative ion generators, and this has also helped most with sinus problems.

CX SG

aiya! nevermind my sinus lah... but that's the problem isn't it? why isn't it worthwhile to have babies, simply for its own merits?

if it's because it would cost too much and we're simply too poor, and there's no way out, even if u take on two more jobs and, then i guess that's just sad...

but if its cos it would cost too much and require to drastically alter their comfortable lifestyles, habits and mindset, then are we perhaps so in love with ourselves and loving ourselves to extinction?

mayham321 SG

if i ever become a parent & also rich I will never want my children to grow up in a society filled with so much decite, lies, bullshit, etc

i wished i was an Austrialian or America Crying or Very sad

mayham321 SG

if i ever become a parent & also rich I will never want my children to grow up in a society (or rather "leaders") filled with so much decite, lies, bullshit, etc

i wished i was an Austrialian or America Crying or Very sad

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