The Yanky soldiers are weaker than our tough SAF

last SG · 2003-09-08T22:03:02+00:00

Wow, I expect the silly Knight in armour won't be coming back. What started as a silly remark about how better weaker scrawnier Singapore soldiers are agains...

Fanatical_Knight SG

Can u believe that the mighy white Americans need aircon to survive in war zone Iraq?!! I mean they are so weak, if it were us over there, we would endure it readily, we would not need PAP to send us aircon haha! Americans are weak.

jOhO SG

Well…. this is probably one other reason why they are always laughing at us…

wuming78 SG

i think tt is not a veri fair comment. firstly the temperatures in iraq has been hitting the higher end of 30s. its a desert climate and hence very dry as well. also, america is a temperate country and thus their people are definitely not used to equatorial climate and temperatures. i think we should applaud them on their tenacity and performance, considering all these acclimatization they have to go through, and the gear they have to wear and carry!

Viper52 SG

The desert temperatures can reach 50 degrees Celsius during daytime in the summer, with mid-to-high 40s being the norm. Do you seriously think YOU can take those temperatures? I've served in the SAF, and from what I've seen, I think Singaporean soldiers will ask for the same.

Get a few facts before making patronizing comments about others.

LazerLordz SG

Very simple...Let's see whether you can be as garang as them and keep your cool under a real battle climate..You're just another preacher standing on the top of his ivory tower and refusing to step on solid ground where everyday action takes place. Cool

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Pls lar, the only reason why we dun have air con is becos SAF has less TROOP WELFARE. We are after all, despite all the hype, a conscript force.

Fanatical_Knight SG

whoa din know we had so many pro Americans here, i’ll bet yall got fake accents, Anywayz, our SAF people are a lot more tougher than them. I mean its just damn funny they have to resort to importing aircon, they don’t have ideals of endurance and hardship in battle.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Nope, nobody’s pro americanka here, it’s just that we are pro REASON, COMMON SENSE, and LOGIC, something which you apparently are way off on the wrong side of.

|-|05| SG

Please loh in iraq it’s on average 42 degC and sometimes it peaks at 48 deg C in the afternoon…..in Singapore we peak at like what? 35degC and we see our soldiers suffer liao and complain.Add that to the fact that the sand absorbs heat and radiates it out even during the cooler night i’m not surprised they havent suffered from heat exhaustion!

duotiga83 SG

pls think b4 u post...10 q very much..... Rolling Eyes

chaar123 SG

Hey Barney!

erijazz SG

i have been training in thailand where in the day it is about 30 over degree C and in the nite is freezing cold, it is no joke to fight under such weather. I find that it is alrite for the US troops to use air-con in Iraq war, after they trg hard during peace time. When in operation have to make sure the troops is fresh and ready to win the battle but not ware them off. Save the pride and lose the war, lousy choice.

boy in blues SG

Mr. Green those American soldiers did not leave their families behind the Atlantic to go to war against the desert.

Stevenson101 SG

wonder if you actually have the guts to tell that to an american soldier.

Don't forget, the American troops are not conscripted so in training no need to give face one. I find the idea of saying our soldiers are tougher than battle hardened veterans hilarious.

Viper52 SG

Pro American? Go check the Military Nuts forum for my opinions on the latest Gulf War before you stick your stupid labels on me.

The average fresh-faced just graduated JC kid being tougher than the professional American soldiers now in Baghdad and Faluja? Go get your facts straight before shooting your mouth off. I can't be bothered to tell you how stupid that is...

If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, you're obviously an extremely hazardous one.

Atobe SG

It was tempting to make a quick reply when this thread was first posted, but it was quite easy to resist the temptation to shoot this topic down; and it serves its purpose to see the depth and maturity of the opinions that are posted.

Has anyone ever seen a SAF Battalion HQ, or a Brigade HQ, and even a Division HQ bunker in the field that is equipped with aircon ?

Does it imply that the HQ personnels are weak too ?

Aircon is quite normal under certain circumstances, and does not imply that the soldiers are weak.

If the US soldiers are weak, just because they are accomodated in aircon comfort, then some of our SAF Pilots will fall under the same label while they hang around on Stand-by in aircon comfort.

Careful how we pass quick judgment about others, as others can just as easily pass judgment about the SAF soldiers being weak when two supposedly seasoned SAF personnel died, while undergoing only the preparatory phase for a Ranger Course.

No need to pass name calling labels on those who defend the reputation of the US Armed Forces, as one has to be objective in one's views of the situation at hand.

The blade of a knife is sharp on both sides, and easily cut in either direction, and does not know friend from foe.

Only the soldier - who holds the knife with some common sense - will be able to differentiate friend from foe.

chaar123 SG

hehehehe ok then atobe, SAF sucks compared to the powerful ANGMOH LANG forces haha! Even the angmor lang forces soldiers are bigger and better than SAF soldier with smaller lang Pa Ji than the angmors!

Now we see, i bet you ppl will ciritzicese me and then say wad knight is saying Whahaha! Laughing

wuming78 SG

Rolling Eyes

Atobe SG

No need to "ciritzicese" you, as you are entitled to your opinion, whatever you were trying to say.

Whatever the nationality of the soldiers, it is not so much what the soldiers have between their legs that count - whether it is the size, weight or quantity.

However, it is important to know that the soldiers have something more substantial in the skull that counts.

Our SAF soldiers are more educated than most of the soldiers in the other armies in our region, and the SAF Soldiers are not too bad when compared to the US Armed Forces - who are recruiting more college graduates today then ten or twenty years ago.

So don't look too far down between anyone legs to pass judgment, but look into the eyeball when you make your decision about the capability of the person.

stupidissmart SG

How about tis, American can get to enjoy aircon and electricity while the main majority of iraqis who used to have air con have to enjoy the wonderful weather there. U gonna tell me tat they r used to living in such weather so they r FINE while america used to have such good things like aircon in life deserves BETTER treatment ? Are they lessser humans than US ? Is the weather any different to both of them. Certainly they r MUCH tougher than americans in tis aspect isn't it ?

And if they didn't live in such weather, they cannot understand how it is like until u have been there. Tis can be said about the politics situation there. They didn't live in tat era, under Sadam politics, why do they have the right to start a war there to overthrow it ? Anyway, on wat grounds do they start a war ? They have smashed the door to everything in iraq, have they found the weopons of mass destruction ? They remain quiet even though nothing is found.

I believe some will tell me tat Iraq deserves all this because they r the one tat destroyed the power grid themselves. Well, u r talking of a few black sheeps in the whole population. Maybe they deserve a iron hand to be controlled. Same as china, they need an iron hand to control the population, if they fully adopt 'US' human right system, they may be as chaotic as iraq now. And anyway, America is the black sheep to be blamed for the wierd weather we r suffering now. The heat waves affects many region too. Why ? Because of pollution to environment. WHo caused the biggest polution problem in the world ? US ! They contribute 40% and more of pollution to the world ! They can do something to make a change but they refuse to do it to make themselves richer. I don't blame poor and undeveloped countries not to help proctect environment. I blamed the biggest contributor of pollution and the richest nation yet do the least thing to proctect it. They speaked so much about human rights yet fail to do anything to proctect mother nature. THey just speak things tat justified their political ambitious.

Wat have the US done after their occupation ? The only things they concentrate on is bringing oil to make money ! When tat fails, they started the begging campaign and ask UN for help ! They just create havoc !

I believe the old lives they used to live is much better than the situation now, and things aren't gonna look very bright anytime soon. Maybe Saddam is a maniac, but things are still going smoothly then. Wat happened now ? No public servant, no rules, no traffic police, no electricity. I think it is just a big mess there.