Hey Atobe, VERY long post... sorry... couldn't make it
any shorter...
Originally posted by Atobe:
It will be interesting to know your views from whatever position
you can take, so as to achieve what you term to be a "proper
perspective" to "the rabid anti-semitism" as viewed by the 3rd
Reich.
How many different perspective can one take, when viewing the
"rabid anti-semitism" of the 3rd Reich ?
It is too generous to even offer the 3rd Reich an alternative view
of empathy or otherwise, for their ruthless and mindless "rabid
anti-semitism" policy.
oh please! i'm not suggesting empathy for what they did! i
certainly do not agree that what they did can be condoned!
i abhore nazism! please do not go so far as to suggest that
I suggest what they did was condonable given the
situation at that times! thats disgusting! gimme more credit than
that man!
mass murder by any other name is still mass murder if u ask me, but
my point is, what drove them to it?? THAT is the perspective i'm
talking about. people don't normally DO this kinda things! and THAT
is something many people take for granted when viewing the 3rd
Reich!
the main driving force for the rabid anti-semitism was not nazism.
that a gross oversimplification. the point is, hating jews was
nothing new to the history of europe. i'm not going to launch into
a history lesson here, but this is what i'm suggesting:
that anti-semitic undercurrents found an ideological manifestation
in nazism. that's one of the perspectives. thats why ordinary
Germans stood back and did nothing when friends and neighbours got
carted off and were never seen again...
because the ideology awoke something that had been stirring inside
them all this while... it's a feeling that had occupied the German
psyche since the Enlightenment... arguably inherent in the German
identity (essentially ethnic in conception) until 1945...
another i suggest, is that after it got carried to such maddenning
extents, the "internal enemies" (aka. jews) were viewed to be as
deadly (if not more so) than the external enemies in Stalingrad,
London and Washington...
thats why they continued killing Jews until the very last days of
the war... thats why railway carriages transporting inmates could
not be freed to carry troops and supplies to the eastern fronts...
thats why resources to the death camps could not be redeployed to
alleviate the horrible conditions at the war front.
The 3rd Reich view towards the Jews is almost equal to the
"Yellow Peril" views aroused by the racist fears of the average
parochial US Caucasians of being overwhelmed by Asians.
there are indeed many parallels... one of which is that early
Chinese immigrants, like Jews, are able to thrive in the face of
great adversities... enough to raise attention to themselves and
incur the jealousies of the whites...
then again, thats just an oversimplification... think political...
they were pushed around also because China was too weak to afford
its overseas citizens any meaningful protection. in fact, they were
bullied overseas cos the chinese gov't was too weak to even protect
its citizens at home! many of them were kidnapped and sold, not
voluntary immigrants...
thats why there's an obcession with a Jewish homeland after the
war. among other things, it was to afford themselves
protection.
The "Yellow Skinned Asians" can empathise with the Jews for the
persecution they suffered from the Nazis, although the Jew had
endured amongst the worst persecution in human history.
nay... all ethnicities face adversities in their histories. i
have enough to be proud of without referring to parallels... i
would emphathise with ALL persecuted and oppressed people in the
world... not necessarily jewish...
The policy of the 3rd Reich is a simple distorted Racist Policy,
of eradicating a community of Jews, whom they viewed as being "the
cockroaches of the world", scavenging their wealth from the misery
and poverty of the German people.
The Racist Policy of the 3rd Reich is the promotion of their
superior Aryan Race of pure blond and healthy blue eyed Caucasions;
which they nearly succeeded with mechanized ruthless efficiency in
subjugating all other ethnic groups of Europe.
thats textbook talk... u got the racial part right, but the
Jewish part is a little more complicated as i've mentioned... the
Nazis did not invent the enemy... they merely re-awakened it
(violently!) in the hearts and minds of the people.
prior to that, things were quite fine... Jews fought alongside
germans in WW 1... but suddenly, there was an awakening that Jews,
bourgeoisies and socialists betrayed the victorious German army
from within...
not a valid reason of course... pure fiction... but it was close to
what Germans wanted to believe... it was easier to believe than
accepting military defeat... and Ludendorff and Hindenburg gladly
participated in the charade... cos they were too chicken to accept
responsibility!
i could go on all day... but my point is, in this day and age of
global communication, enemies do not just appear out of nowhere...
they are usually the results of historical baggage and historical
conditioning...
our northern friend could not have made us out to be a hostile
neighbour for no reason... its been going on for some time.
thats why i think its frightening because it is so much more
difficult to identify with something than to identify against
something... if national identities are forged to identify against
an inherent enemy, i would hate to live to see it happen...
