Originally posted by Atobe:
Hello Kyas,
Your three postings on 21 January 2003 remains without any
impressions left on me, and merely confirms my last reply to you,
and that is
[b]Religion (and GOD) is created by
MAN
Yusuf Islam (aka Cat Stevens) is the epitome of a typical Western
Man, who is disenchanted and bored by his own familiar culture and
society; and fell into romantic embrace of a foreign culture that
mystify him. He is by no means an intelligent person, although he
is creative in his songs, which reflects largely his own
disappointment with his own life, culture, society, and family
life.
Gary Miller (aka Abdul-Ahad-Omar) is no great Philosopher- Thinker,
whom one can place beside Homer, Karl Marx, Bertrand Russell, or
other similar radical dissident luminaries of their own
period.
Your writing confirms the fact that Religion is dependent on Human Recording of some
Human visions of events that is
awe-inspiring.
To name a few, some of these Human Religious Records are the Jewish
Torah, the Islamic Koran, the Bible, (which translate the Jewish
Torah into readable English language but carry with it the
writings of Jesus Disciples as reflected in the New
Testament).
The practice of religion in
this Twenty-First Century is still dependent on the Human
Interpretation of these Ancient Writings, by some
Human Being appointed as a Religious Leader - by some Inner Council
of Other Humans, whose own appointments are questionable.
Whether the Religions concerned are Anglican, Methodist,
Protestants, Lutherans, Roman Catholics, Orthodox Christians,
Jewry, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Taoism, Shintoism, and
all other Human Faiths they are all dependent on some HUMAN
Interpretation of Phenomena.
Much of your writing confirms my stated position, in which you have
written the close observation of the customary practices as
interpreted from your Koran.
The Big Bang Theory confirms Mans continuous search for an
answer to his vain quest to find out his origin, his purpose on
this earth, and his destiny.
The fact that research and knowledge coincide, does not confirm the
correctness of one religion or its superiority over the
others.
It merely confirms that the Human Mind is the same regardless of
Religion adopted or followed or observed or practiced.
When a Society adopts an Ancient Religion and allow it to
advocate the suppression of any member of its own Human Race by
the evil and narrow minded interpretation of HISTORICAL records
it merely show the inadequacy of that Society to deal with the
social, political, economic, and religious challenges of the
Twenty-First Century that its society is facing.
[/b]
This is just a continuation of the previous article of Gary
Miller.
Yes he is no great Philosopher- Thinker, whom one can place beside
Homer, Karl Marx, Bertrand Russell, or other similar radical
dissident luminaries of their own period. Do not forget that the
article is all about facts that we can always verify (go and check
for yourself... this not just another theory) and comparison with
Al Quran
well who is Chua Lee Hoong and Cheah Sin Ann
anyway
The
Expanding Heavens
Let me first show more of our examination of the Qur'an, and then
an examination of some words of prophets to find this point of
convergence. In chapter fifty one, verse forty seven, it is
mentioned that the heavens are expanding. As I mentioned earlier,
this is in connection with the "Big Bang" origin of the universe,
as it is usually called, and it was in 1973 that the Nobel prize
was awarded to three men who were confirming that, after all, the
universe is expanding.
The comments of Muslims over the centuries on this verse which
speaks of the heavens doing exactly that is very interesting. The
wisest among them had stated that the words are very dear, that the
heavens are expanding, but they could not imagine how that could be
so. But they were content to leave the words as they were, to say:
"Allah knows best."
The City of Iram
The Qur'an mentions a city by the name of Iram (89:7). The city of
Iram has been unknown to history, so unknown that even some Muslim
commentators, out of embarrassment or feeling apologetic for their
religion, have commented on this mention of the city in the Qur'an
as being perhaps figurative, that Iram was possibly a man and not a
city.
In 1973 the excavation in Syria at the site of the ancient city of
Eblus uncovered the largest collection of cuneiform writings on
clay tablets ever assembled. In fact, the library discovered in
Eblus contains more day tablets that are more than four thousand
years old than all the other tablets combined from all the other
sites.
Interestingly enough, you will find the details in the National
Geographic of 1978 which confirms that in those tablets the city of
Iram is mentioned. The people of Eblus used to do business with the
people of Iram. So here in 1973, comes confirmation of the fact
that, after all, there really was an ancient city by that name,
wherever it was. How did it find its way into the Qur'an, we might
ask?
Those Muslims who may have offered their comments, trying to
explain away this reference that they were uncomfortable with, were
outsmarted by the author of the Qur'an. They are those who would
outsmart the author of the Qur'an They would attempt it. Primarily,
their activity would involve trying to produce the evidence that
the author of this book had a primitive understanding of the world
around us.
The Smallest Matter
For example, there is a word which is translated today usually in
Arabic as zarrah. This is usually translated as "atom" and it is
usually thought of in Arabic as being the smallest item available
at one time. Perhaps the Arabs thought it was an ant or a grain of
dust. Today the word is usually translated as "atom".
Those who would outsmart the author of the Qur'an have insisted
that, well, the atom is not after all the smallest piece of matter
because in this century it has been discovered that even the atom
is made of still smaller pieces of matter. Is it then possible to
outsmart the author who chose to use this word? Well, there is an
interesting verse, in chapter ten, verse sixty one, which speaks of
items the size of a zarrah, (atom) or smaller.
There is no possibility that on this subject someone is going to
say a new discovery has outdated the words of the Qur'an on the
issue of the size of matter or the ultimate particles. The verse
talks about items the size of a zarrah (atom) or
smaller.
