Combat Engineer the unsung soldier

last SG · 2002-08-30T16:43:44+00:00

I'm not from a combat engineer unit - but I will always remember and admire their discipline and efficiency. I had a chance, a long time ago to train with th...

Werewolf SG

eh.............MGB now out of phase liao
got better fixed bridges
they use those instead of the MGB liao Cool

silkmagic SG

The section in the engineer section is about seven men with the specialists chipping to help in the bridging. Only the PC and PS do not get really involved in carrying the bridging part. Singapore doctrine, less men higher productivity.

So which SCE are you from bigballs 11. I am formerly from 30 SCE and now posted to 326 SCE. Things have changed a lot since then. Thanks for explanation about the combat engineer capabilities about our neighbouring countries as I have seldom heard any news about them. Laughing

silkmagic SG

Last time when I was in NS, they are still using MGB but there was rumour about it being phased out. But we still practising it. So what are we using now?

silkmagic SG

Combat Engineer are specialised soldiers whereby technology plays only a little role in its effectiveness. Training and skill is what makes a combat engineer effective.

Harimau, you are always bragging that the equipment of the Malaysian Armed Forces is always better than the SAF. Since you know so much, tell me more about your combat engineer. Evil or Very Mad

bigballs11 SG

Based on the best of my knowlegde, France don't make quality Combat Engineering equipment.

Malaysia army should buy from German, follow by UK, Israel, US and then other countries.

FYI, we already got MLC100/120 bridge (depend on gap length 24m, 48m) which can be assembled by 1 section of man in 30mins, somemore already operational.

Leguan an old system?!? FYI the bridging technology used by Leguan is the most advanced in the market!!! you know of any system that can lay MLC70 bridge over a gap of 24m within 5-10mins using only 1 operator? Last but not least, it is german technology.

Leguan refer to the 10tonner MAN track (same vehicle used to launched the ICBM missiles one hor) with the horizontial launched bridge. That horizontial launched bridge system can be used on tanks for assault bridge laying purpose, you know?

From the way you phrase the question, I forgive you know nuts about CE bridging. You don't even know the different between fixed bridging and float bridging and comparing leguan to the plooton is like ducks and chickens. BTW, 35SCE got more than enough plootons to lay a few dozens MLC120 plooton bridges from Singapore to Johor shores. Shocked

bigballs11 SG

Are you referring to the locally made STB or the MGB replacement?

But we still keep the tons of MGB pallets for reserve forces. You will never know when you need that.

bigballs11 SG

Shit! now they cut down the manpower even further, I think they should develop some kind of bionic arm for future combat engineers to lift heavy objects.

I was the very suay batch, got posted to SOCE to train in field engineering, stay with outprocessing batch in 30, got posted to 35 to learn float bridging, then kanna kick to 38 to take armour engineering course, then 38 got excessive intake and I end up back in 30. Later posted to HQ doing weapon procurement and evaluation due to my extensive knowledge in all 3 field of CE (sorry cannot say too much or spell out the exact name of the branch I was in or SIB will come after my ass).

bigballs11 SG

I totally agree, no other troops in SAF has to undergo such a long training course like CE. I still keep my old notes which fill up 4 thick books for memory. Only people who sweat thru this course will know the hardship. The worse part is the final passing out exercise which you have to perform a series of CE task without any sleep for 5 days 4 nites. Worse still they deliberate select days that rain. I remember the first day of the exercise, my fellow platoon training mates has to manually construct a 2E+12 under heavy thunderstorm in mud shit condition within a given timeframe. At the end of the bridge construction, all just drop dead sleep in the mud.

I still remember the minimium of 12 standard chinup before any meal or carry 6 dummy landmines (each about 8kg!!!) with U everywhere U go. Shocked

bigballs11 SG

That is no rumour, it is a fact, in fact the procurement is done 10 years ago, but as usual, "new equipment" announcement is done 10 years later.

The new folding bridge which replace the MGB uses mechanised method to build and it takes only 1 section to build a 24m MLC120 bridge in very short time frame. Slight longer if you want to build a 48m or longer bridge.

But for more permanent structure, we still used the trusty Acrow Panel Bridge.

Werewolf SG

dunnoe LoL
me in float bridge unit =)
35SCE Mr. Green

Werewolf SG

eh, MLC 60 lar.....(these open to public liao)
got new equipment coming in
but I wun say lah hoh
as you sae, got SIB lar Mr. Green

Werewolf SG

LoL
I didn't noe dat
coz I training dat time, they phase out liao
but.....keep for old NSmen, true lah, keep them in shape
Mr. Green

Werewolf SG

wah, you li hai leh
I think better then my CSM or OC liao
LoL
you not regular isit
Mr. Green
no wonder you got 4 thick books lar

bigballs11 SG

Those MLC60 are MGB la, but actual load is 70 for 24m gap (I got the whole set of MGB construction manual lay). I don't know why SAF like to download bridge MLC ratings, maybe take into consideration wear, tear and cracks.

Those MLC100/120 are DFB (you know I know la) I think the SAF will classified that as MLC70, a new type of bridge to replace the more labour intensive MGB.
Mr. Green

bigballs11 SG

Normally HQ weapon procurement and evaluation are not open to NSF staff one la. But I don't know why I was posted there in the first place, usual S1 cock up I think, quite good life, meet foreign arms supplier, got lots of free gifts, free food. The only disadvantge is SIB check up quite regularly, odd working hours like get up midnite to move "secret toys" and cannot sign on to defence related company for 3 years after ROD.
Mr. Green

bigballs11 SG

I believe it is the STB, it MLC30 section bridge, replacing the 2E+5 MGB section bridge. BTW it is designed and manufactured locally, early batched get cracks easily maybe due to wielding problems, but later iron out with extensive redesign on those weak points Shocked

I was trained in those old engineer batch, everything so damn heavy at that time, imagine use MGB to build section bridge, use old pancake mines and AP mines that blown up in your face and carry tons of iron pickles and butt wires to fence minefield area Mr. Green

Werewolf SG

ah?
not bad wat
sound quite goot life
Mr. Green
not everyone will get tis type of exposure
SIB check also nevermind, can make friends LOL

errrr, ROD or ORD LoL
now NSF finish term as ORD liao leh

Werewolf SG

ya, i learn STB one
ok lar, think not so heavy as MGB
but if you know hoh, got one use muscle build bridge in 35SCE
I also go learn nia........damn heavy hahahaha
dun think I want to name it lar although CO say it's open liao
hahaha
Mr. Green

bigballs11 SG

It a consolation prize being a trainee for too long Very Happy
Oh, me old time soldier, should be ORD, but going ROD in a short few years, still counting down Mr. Green

bigballs11 SG

That one in 35 is the old old candace, but the most shiong one is the super heavy duty bridge of 30, the APB (Acrow Panal Bridge), the construction grade steel is at least 10 times heavier then those material used in MGB hor, take few days to build and tear down hor Shocked

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