What IF M'sia pack & roar in a trian of soldiers stretching

tripwire SG

aint my problem u are blind and cant hop.

Shogun SG

never you problem tripwire, after all you...full of it~~~

8===B <----- Hang in there.....lol

tripwire SG

i am full of it, full of it, full of it, full of it. full of what u never say, and what do you have?? a pair of blind eyes and a 2 pair of legs that cant hop?? i think you are the one who will be hanging around with this much disability.

MinisterOfDefence SG

its time we refreshed this topic…..how can a trainload full of malaysian soldiers enter singapore without any1 knowing.its simply ridiculous

Shotgun SG

hmmm, we’ll let them ride the train, but we change the tracks and send’em swimming. They’d probably be to dumb to notice the fishes swimming around them.

tripwire SG

how??? traitors..... either due to money (corruption), religion(fanatics), race and language(racist elements) or people like Tang liang hong (anti-govt emotional freako)

Shotgun SG

If they do make it into tanjong pagar, FIBUA will sure come in handy. Of course, when they arrive in Sg, we got our CDO and Guards dropping into KL and extracting errr.. “key assholes”

tripwire SG

they wont head for tanjong pagar if they can get through woodland checkpoint.

heading for tanjong pagar is as good as heading right into the fist of the SAF.

the better strategy if ever they breech woodland is to drop troops all along the entire railway track and start to hit and kill anything they come across.

for every 600 unarmed singaporean man they killed, they effectively eliminates an entire reserve battalion.

secondly, by spreading throughout singapore, it will tied down singapore forces to hunt them down, they could also hamper military mobilization if they could hit power station and communication towers with spies and traitors already in singapore.

thirdly, if they managed to obtain local malay support, they would be given protection, cover and supplies that could stretch their terrorism for a much longer time and perhaps becomes more effective as they can blend into the local population in the day and don the military uniform at night.

fourth, their presence in the heartland of singapore would cause anxiety and affect the morals of SAF reservist who are called back to camp, fearful of the safety of their family members.

fifth, certain elements could attempt to poison the water supply, set fire to key industries, assasination of key personal and govt officials and shaken the buissness confidence in singapore plus taking the glow out of the invincible SAF.

sixth, they could be used to secure a beachhead for additional malaysian soldiers coming by speed boats if not a counter invasion into singapore.

seventh, they could be used to subvert local sentiments by spreading distrust between malays and other races or even attempt to start a racial riots with the aim of tearing the SAF along racial lines.

eigth, they could be used to take out strategic targets like AMMO base, SAM sites or mortar the airfield.

ninth, the train could carry large amount of ordanance to arm and equip malaysian soldiers already in singapore as workers or visitors or even local malays who may wish to join them in their 'liberation'.

IN short, if they breech woodland checkpoint.... we are gonna be in for one heck of a nightmare.

it gets worst if malaysia forward base its military camp nearer towards singapore. the train attack could buy MAF precious time to rush to the johor straits and cross over before SAF can react.

the key is to hit and nullify SAF in under 6 to 12 hours.

BUT this is of course a worst case scenario. hehehee

in times of crisis between singapore and malaysia, rest assured that (according to a source) the woodland CIQ, isnt so simple a CIQ, in fact, if need to, it can stop the malaysian train in its track.

and if singapore govt or intelligience services find something odd, they have every authority to simply tear up the rail tracks up to woodland CIQ. without tracks.... hehee

and if the malaysian protess against the removal of the tracks... tough luck for them, cause according to the IPA between the 2 govt, singapore effectively own the tracks and the land around the tracks after the woodland CIQ is completed for 5 years.

and even if singapore dont own those tracks, please understand that the land of the KTM is still singapore's sovereign territory, meaning.... if singapore desires... it can be place under police or military control or supervision. and when neccessary... the KTM service can be suspended indefinitely as and when singapore desires by simply closing the border.

Shotgun SG

Lolz, u sound as if singapore wont have a chance if they flood us with armed immigrants… Why dont swe attack them with our elite forces of customs officer and just detain them for carrying contraband?

tripwire SG

NO... but i am just listing some of the problem that we would face if they manage to rush a train packed with troops through woodland.

In fact, i think the govt share my concern too when it insist that Malaysia CIQ be moved from TJ PG to WL CIQ in accordance to international rules and practice.

However... i do not think malaysia would try such a stunt unless it is going to declare all out war against singapore. because a train packed with troops could post a serious problem for SAF... it aint gonna win the war, but merely serve to start the war on singapore favour.

Secondly... for every tactics, there is a counter tactics, it all depends on the mind of those in command as to how to address a situation, and in view of the obvious glaring danger post by such a potential attack, it goes without saying, the scenario and counter moves are being planned up probably ever since the first incident when a group of MAF soldier drive across the causeway and killed a group of SAF officer during SAF's infancy back in 69.

The danger in war is not being able to see the obvious, but failure to see the unseen hidden danger which at times appear impossible turns out to be a brilliant stroke of genius.

But the biggest problem that singapore will face is.... can we trust the singapore malays?? from our daily dealings with singapore malays... i am not so sure. they tend to look at race and religion before nation. their thinkings is along the line of singapore being part of malaysia rather than an independent state.

In fact, whenever the mentioning of war against malaysia was brought up in casual conversation... their opinion is SAF will loose for sure, like guaranteed by Allah. and the idea of singapore SAF crushing MAF seems a horrendous if not an impossible possibility, in fact, the singapore malays has greater trust in MAF then the malaysian chinese!!

I have seen the same attitude in the malays way back during the gulf war... when i told some malays that America is gonna crushed the iraqis like a stink bug... the idea horrifys them! and some nearly comes to blows with me over a simple causal comment over the disparity of forces.

throughout the gulf war, the malays stick their ears to the radio waiting for the latest news and forget about their studies, and when it becomes obvious that iraq is gonna loose the war to everyone else, they still cling onto the belief that iraq will still win until the very end.

So i ask... was it because that the other races are bias and as a result dont trust the malays because we are surrounded by malays OR was it a case of the malays making themselve from being trusted due to their overt extreme emphasis on race and religion??

I feel.... due to the nature that islam is structured.... a future war along the islamic divide appears inevitable. and if nostradamus prediction comes to fruition.... its gonna be one fucking hell war...

according to nostradamus... isreal and the entire europe, will be crushed by the arabs before US, CHINA and RUSSIA leads a full counter strike all the way into middle-east finally crushing and forcing the muslims to surrender at tehran.

but from the fanaticism of the muslims... it is doubtful... few if any muslims would be left after the war. since they have been known to even send children as young as 10 and womens into the front as human shield or human anti-mining device by have them run across the mine-field like IRAN during the Ir - Ir war. and it is doubtful the allies would follow the old practice of sparing the civilians in enemy territory since.... effectively, there are no civilians due to the islamic belief and it is doubtful... that the muslims would spare the christians in europe when they conquer it before their defeat.

MinisterOfDefence SG

Yar Yar......i'm a malay but i promised u tt i will kill anyone in war...doesn't matter hu...b it a fanatic muslim,sickening chinese ,smelly indians or the so called big sized ang-moh....the line is clear 2 mi...the malaysians invade singapore,,,they are still the intruder....i will rather save my country.....mark my words tripwire....i will kill any malaysians,malays,indians,chinese....i dun care ur family or anyones family....invade my country...i blow the fuck of their head...!!!

MinisterOfDefence SG

Shotgun SG

Which is why, we must build a Singaporean Identity. I'm not chinese, I'm singaporean.. though biologically, i am branded as a chinese, that only represents my subspecies, but in then end, I'm still Singaporean. You noe this kinda concept. No matter who we are, as long as we are born here, we are Singaporeans. But its not gonna be easy. Many terrorists organisations band together under a false banner of Islam, just to recruit young devoted ones to join their cause. Search under www.specialoperations.com 's Terrorist guidebook, and count for yourself how many terrorist leaders have abused the religion. Religion and Politics should NEVER Mix

tripwire SG

Sadly... the war against the muslims seems to be forming.

eversince the muslims began war after war to expand their influence in central asia and the balkans...

the radical muslims attempt is ringing off alarm bells all over the world, and as the non-islamic nations starts to prepare a strategy of containment against the muslims... the conflict becomes unavoidable as the muslims seeks to expand and the non-muslims seeks to quarantine them.

US and isreal together with NATO has been ever watchful over the middle east muslims even during the cold wars, now... CHINA and RUSSIA too have just form the shanghai pact with the obvious purpose to contain the muslims in. without saying, INDIA never likes muslims... eversince the birth of pakistan.

generally... the image of muslims and extremist terrorist are like as one, thanks to the bombings by terrorist claiming to be muslims and the muslim nations abivalence towards the death of innocent non-islamic civilians in western countries... in time.. the islamic nations would pay dearly for their ambivalence with blood.

SAD day that will be... but unless the islamic nations group together, declared and actively participate in anti-terrorist actions such as hanging or handing over ex and present terrorist for UN trial.. they are gonna find it hard to wash the blood stain off their clothes.

in the end... their horrific terrorist actions fueled the western medias with endless topics to write against the islamic belief.... western medias mainly controlled by jews.

in fact, the terrorist are helping the jewish to consolidate the world opinion against the muslims and brought sympathy to isreal. soon.... in time... the muslims would suffer for their ignorance and idiocy as they play into the hands of the jews who would muster the world to rise forth and swept the islamic faith into the ocean of blood.

Shotgun SG

Sad to say, i have to agree. Russia has never liked muslims, especially after afghanistan. Worst of all, people like Osama bin Laden isn’t making the muslims look good at all. By the way, word says that the Abu Sayaff is funded by the man himself. Why am I not surprised?

tripwire SG

because, to the rest of the world, the muslims of various regions and races are little more then the same wolf wearing different color sheep skins.

And for a long time, even CHINA has been fighting the muslims. so it would seems that the muslims are getting onto everyones nerve. just that nobody wants an all out war against those pesky nuts because they all have greater problems on their hand than to worry about these troublemakers.

Sadly, the smaller nations now bear the brunt of the those rodents incessant attempt to expand and breed. in time.... the superpowers might decide to bridge their differences and see to the end of these rodents tyranny and squish them like the stink bug that they are, like iraq.

those muslims thought that IRAQ having fought a 8 year war with IRAN would have the most capable armed forces in the muslim world, shocking for them to realise that their so call elite brothers are little more then a bunch of useless rojaks when compared with the US. they are like the frogs in the well and see the sky the size of a fifty cent coin.

Shotgun SG

I bet those ragheads who attacked Israel during the Yom Kippur war found out the same thing. Sure, some of those ragheads in the middle-east are veterans, but they are technologically inferior. I suspect there is this extraordinary mentality in them that makes them lose fights like that. They think that they are being suppressed by foreign powers when its them who go stepping onto everyone's shoes.

In anycase, if Israel loses temper with the Palestinians, Palestine is gonna dissappear under a pile of smoke and rubble. Of course, if that happens, probably all the arab nations will go to war with Israel under their Muslim banner. Of course, not that they can defeat the IDF... The only Arab nation that will tip the scales in the favor of the ragheads will be Egypt.

If Egypt enters the war... most likely the United States will, as well as Half of NATO. Russia will benefit as they can sell more tanks and equipment to the ragheads. Keep an eye on the Israel palestine conflict, if there is gonna be a war, its gonna start there.

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