stress over pregnancy

likeyou SG

TS, talk to your parents is the best options. Go now, get scolded or whatever you cannot get away with it. Good luck lady.

troublemaker2005 SG

watch blue film lor, and follow monkey see monkey do. ended up self pawned

Aneslayer SG

"Seriously ? Only humans are capable of such inhumane thoughts."

??? Inhumane comes from humane thus is still from human. Only humans are capable of thoughts, however inhumane you think they are. How is it relevant to the topic at hand except being an emotional appeal?

"If the court makes it legal to kill Chinese.. does it make it OK to kill you and your family ? Like what Hitler did to the Jews ?"

Yeah! Godwin's Law fulfilled. Jews, Chinese, Mexicans, African blacks has been persecuted for different reasons. Stay focus... Quit making emotional appeals...

"Are animals the only ones on our planet capable of restraint and compassion ? Or have we devolved into lesser than animals ?"

Animals??? Please stay on topic... or are you trolling me?

"Why are you such strong advocates of Abortion ? Are you going to tell your gf .. lets just abort the baby after that hot and steamy night ? A choice of convenience.. and a means to preserve your "lifestyle "?"

Look... I'm suggesting options for TS. Why are you so bent on limiting her choices when you are not burdened by the UNWANTED pregnancy? On what ground are you stopping TS from living the life she wants, legally. When has the topic becomes on me? Oh.. ad hominem. You are initiating a baseless, pointless arguments... I know better than waste my breath on your likes... You are getting too emotional to be even vaguely coherent.

"A fetus ? Removal ? You see those little beings as an OBJECT , dont you."

I find your accusations very silly. Removal can be used on animate and inanimate OBJECTS.

"In order to "remove" that fetus.. you have to first KILL it.Or.. it will DIE outside a mother's womb."

Cells die everyday. Cancers cells were removed with the CONSENT of the patient. Just what is your point?

"Do you really think her quality of life will "improve" after killing that baby ?"

100% She won't need to go through pregnancy, delivery and confinement. There! 1 year of UNWANTED discomfort just vanish.

"Can you be certain.. this little boy/girl will not grow up to become someone of importance ? Someone who can give the Mother a much better life than if she had aborted her child ?"

Oh... appeal to ignorance. What makes you think they'd not grow up to be otherwise? Having consider all options empowers TS to make a sound decision. Not just blindly follow moralistic nudgings.

"What crystal ball are you using.. let me know.. I'd love to get one for myself."

You must be smoking some strong stuff to have such delusions....

jojobeach SG

"Seriously ? Only humans are capable of such inhumane thoughts."

??? Inhumane comes from humane thus is still from human. Only humans are capable of thoughts, however inhumane you think they are. How is it relevant to the topic at hand except being an emotional appeal?

"If the court makes it legal to kill Chinese.. does it make it OK to kill you and your family ? Like what Hitler did to the Jews ?"

Yeah! Godwin's Law fulfilled. Jews, Chinese, Mexicans, African blacks has been persecuted for different reasons. Stay focus... Quit making emotional appeals...

"Are animals the only ones on our planet capable of restraint and compassion ? Or have we devolved into lesser than animals ?"

Animals??? Please stay on topic... or are you trolling me?

"Why are you such strong advocates of Abortion ? Are you going to tell your gf .. lets just abort the baby after that hot and steamy night ? A choice of convenience.. and a means to preserve your "lifestyle "?"

Look... I'm suggesting options for TS. Why are you so bent on limiting her choices when you are not burdened by the UNWANTED pregnancy? On what ground are you stopping TS from living the life she wants, legally. When has the topic becomes on me? Oh.. ad hominem. You are initiating a baseless, pointless arguments... I know better than waste my breath on your likes... You are getting too emotional to be even vaguely coherent.

"A fetus ? Removal ? You see those little beings as an OBJECT , dont you."

I find your accusations very silly. Removal can be used on animate and inanimate OBJECTS.

"In order to "remove" that fetus.. you have to first KILL it.Or.. it will DIE outside a mother's womb."

Cells die everyday. Cancers cells were removed with the CONSENT of the patient. Just what is your point?

"Do you really think her quality of life will "improve" after killing that baby ?"

100% She won't need to go through pregnancy, delivery and confinement. There! 1 year of UNWANTED discomfort just vanish.

"Can you be certain.. this little boy/girl will not grow up to become someone of importance ? Someone who can give the Mother a much better life than if she had aborted her child ?"

Oh... appeal to ignorance. What makes you think they'd not grow up to be otherwise? Having consider all options empowers TS to make a sound decision. Not just blindly follow moralistic nudgings.

"What crystal ball are you using.. let me know.. I'd love to get one for myself."

You must be smoking some strong stuff to have such delusions....

Tsk tsk tsk... you are sick person dude.

Yup.. human beings are just cells... And you are one of the cancerous ones.. please remove yourself from this earth.. OK ? Good.

Do us all a favor.. stay away from social work. Stick with your comedy club.

Frankly.. if you are aspiring to become a Lawyer.. please don't waste your time.. you make a really lousy one.

Abortion law is widely debated in any law class because of it's controversial nature. So please, don't assume everyone here knows not what you are doing.

If you so wish to impress with your notes from Law class.. please PM me. This is NOT the right place for your "Ah Ha!" moments.

likeyou SG

That photos will make ladies think twice in giving se.x to her bf.

Guys loose nothing in se.x.

Ladies gain someting in se.x, that is pregnant. Once pregnant, bg run away, you ladies, sorry hor, your business. Dont come and look for me hor, we better break off.

So ladies out there if you happen to read this and am going to have se.x, dont commit yourself.

Aneslayer SG

Tsk tsk tsk... you are sick person dude.

Yup.. human beings are just cells... And you are one of the cancerous ones.. please remove yourself from this earth.. OK ? Good.

Do us all a favor.. stay away from social work. Stick with your comedy club.

Frankly.. if you are aspiring to become a Lawyer.. please don't waste your time.. you make a really lousy one.

Abortion law is widely debated in any law class because of it's controversial nature. So please, don't assume everyone here knows not what you are doing.

If you so wish to impress with your notes from Law class.. please PM me. This is NOT the right place for your "Ah Ha!" moments.

So... which part of UNWANTED pregnancy did you not understand?

None of your points are relevant toTS, and your are trying to derail this thread into your petty name calling games...Very immature. Grow up a little. At least act your age according to situations.

jojobeach SG

So... which part of UNWANTED pregnancy did you not understand?

None of your points are relevant toTS, and your are trying to derail this thread into your petty name calling games...Very immature. Grow up a little. At least act your age according to situations.

Wow.. something is seriously wrong in your head. Obviously you think abortion is like going to the dentist to remove a rotting tooth. It's not.

Abortion is a very invasive procedure.. and the psychological damage is enormous and may last a lifetime.

Please go call up the helpline listed in page one.

Talk to one of those consultants and they will explain to you what you are doing is wrong.

TS case is not the end of the world for her, if she decides to keep the baby.

A lot of young mothers are scared..but as long as they get the right support , their babies don't have to die. Understand ?

Abortion is an option all women are aware of.. you don't need to keep pushing for it.

Now please commit this photo in mind, the next time BEFORE you put your unprotected dick into another woman's vagina.. it will be a good reminder to reach for that condom.

jojobeach SG

That photos will make ladies think twice in giving se.x to her bf.

Guys loose nothing in se.x.

Ladies gain someting in se.x, that is pregnant. Once pregnant, bg run away, you ladies, sorry hor, your business. Dont come and look for me hor, we better break off.

So ladies out there if you happen to read this and am going to have se.x, dont commit yourself.

Indeed..

However.. nowadays medical science has made it possible to determine Paternity of the child.

Men/boys whom shrugged their responsibilities should be made to spend a few months in jail and few strokes of the cane.

angel7030 SG

where animals risk their lives to save their youngs, human kills their youngs...so, my God

Aneslayer SG

"Wow.. something is seriously wrong in your head. Obviously you think abortion is like going to the dentist to remove a rotting tooth. It's not."

Yeah, appeal to ridicule, how original... The similarity lies in the removal of a certain UNWANTED part of the body. Show me how is it not different.

"Abortion is a very invasive procedure..."

Removing a tooth is also invasive.

"... and the psychological damage is enormous and may last a lifetime."

Citations needed. Or are you being flatulent...

"Please go call up the helpline listed in page one.

Talk to one of those consultants and they will explain to you what you are doing is wrong.

TS case is not the end of the world for her, if she decides to keep the baby.

A lot of young mothers are scared..but as long as they get the right support , their babies don't have to die. Understand ?"

You have no idea what defects that inbred child could develop... or did you read what TS posted before you emit gas from a convenient outlet?

"Abortion is an option all women are aware of.. you don't need to keep pushing for it."

On contrary, you clearly stated that those who would choose abortion would be "genocidal", "inhumane", "sick", "seriously wrong with one's head"....

"Now please commit this photo in mind, the next time BEFORE you put your unprotected dick into another woman's vagina.. it will be a good reminder to reach for that condom."

And you believe condoms are 100% fail safe... How very naive....

I'm actually impressed that you can use shock picture to argue your point here... which is totally IRRELEVANT to TS, besides emotionally blackmailling her, to make her feel guilty, and to waver HER decision.... and you act like you are being helpful. Take your pretentious morals and GTFO!

The rights of the mother overcede the rights of the fetus since the fetus obviously has none entitled. No one else opinions matter. Its her life, her decision, her burden, whatever the outcome.

Optimum abortion... before 10weeks gestations.... after that, the risks of complications after abortion are higher....

P.S: @ moderators,

Are shock pictures allowed here? No underage users? No trauma however temporary for the weak minded? Ok...

likeyou SG

Indeed..

However.. nowadays medical science has made it possible to determine Paternity of the child.

Men/boys whom shrugged their responsibilities should be made to spend a few months in jail and few strokes of the cane.

We guys like to tell our gf : If you truly loves me, we must have sex.ual intercourse, if you dont, means you dont like me."

Guys are putting pressure on his gf to give him se.x

After that, guys can say to her "we not meant for each other, let's break off"

See! SO EASY.

Fugazzi SG

Most of us tend to forget that in all the threads being posted here, we tend to label, pass judgements , advice, offer opinions but seem so unaware to our own conditionings, our own hangups (emotional/psycho/baggage) and unwittingly foist our prejudiced/bigoted ’’ways’’ with nary a care to the individuality of that person.
As to whether, he/she is cognizant of that individuality is not relevant.

One can go on arguing/discussing ad finitum on the pros and cons of abortion/childbirth and justify one’s stance. However, to me, it is unpardonable that it is imposed on another – it is disrespectul of another. Telling another what to be or not to be is taking away what the essence is of an individual.

Bio-Hawk SG

A stupid girl got pregnant and now every one is fighting among themselves,lol.

@jojobeach: 'While men stay fools upon their deathbeds.. girls grow up to become mothers.': Yyour father/brother was a fool and your mom gave birth. And giving birth is nothing great. Most important is being a great parent which i am sure OP has not a big chance for.

In the end what you sow, 'shall' you reap.

Aneslayer SG

"A stupid girl got pregnant and now every one is fighting among themselves,lol."

So nice of you to join in....

soleachip SG

i think the question of when exactly a fetus is considered a life (therefore abortion = murder) is still raging at this point. imo when the nervous system is developed to the point where a sensation of pain from the aborting can be felt, the process becomes cruel for the helpless.

Aneslayer SG

i think the question of when exactly a fetus is considered a life (therefore abortion = murder) is still raging at this point. imo when the nervous system is developed to the point where a sensation of pain from the aborting can be felt, the process becomes cruel for the helpless.

From other forum user...

"Technically, life begins at some point yet to be determined after the conception but before the birth of your mother. The egg in her ovary is alive long before it meets up with the sperm, and so your life begins there, before she is even born."

The nueral development starts roughly after week 10 of gestation...

Bio-Hawk SG

From other forum user...

"Technically, life begins at some point yet to be determined after the conception but before the birth of your mother. The egg in her ovary is alive long before it meets up with the sperm, and so your life begins there, before she is even born."

The nueral development starts roughly after week 10 of gestation...

BS! If this is to be believed then having periods is murdering.

Anyways I am very glad I am a man.

soleachip SG

From other forum user...

"Technically, life begins at some point yet to be determined after the conception but before the birth of your mother. The egg in her ovary is alive long before it meets up with the sperm, and so your life begins there, before she is even born."

The nueral development starts roughly after week 10 of gestation...

the beginnings of personhood or life has not exactly been agreed upon at this point by the masses or scientists, every definition and belief system is coming from some place. be it from a neurological, biological or religious standpoint imo. it's too complicated and too fraught with agendas... so whichever place it's coming from, i don't think this thread can hope to cover much. already there are idealists and rationalists arguing here... you get the drift.

as narrow minded as this may sound... steve jobs was the result of an unwanted pregnancy, true. but his birth parents at the very least, had enough i e a and s Q to be extremely selective about their choice of adoptive parents. now imagine if he was adopted by a couple of sheep herders in _ _ _ _ (this is where we fill in our own blanks).

truth is for every good example of a healthy, adjusted kid who sprang from a bad situation, there'll be as many examples of those didn't.

i hope TS is okay now and finds the support she needs. generally speaking if she's struggling with basic needs like security, support and love, she's hardly in a good place to make sound decisions as a mother.

Aneslayer SG

the beginnings of personhood or life has not exactly been agreed upon at this point by the masses or scientists, every definition and belief system is coming from some place. be it from a neurological, biological or religious standpoint imo. it's too complicated and too fraught with agendas... so whichever place it's coming from, i don't think this thread can hope to cover much. already there are idealists and rationalists arguing here... you get the drift.

as narrow minded as this may sound... steve jobs was the result of an unwanted pregnancy, true. but his birth parents at the very least, had enough i e a and s Q to be extremely selective about their choice of adoptive parents. now imagine if he was adopted by a couple of sheep herders in _ _ _ _ (this is where we fill in our own blanks).

truth is for every good example of a healthy, adjusted kid who sprang from a bad situation, there'll be as many examples of those didn't.

i hope TS is okay now and finds the support she needs. generally speaking if she's struggling with basic needs like security, support and love, she's hardly in a good place to make sound decisions as a mother.

I would agree. How would babies grow up if the system does not allow the birth parent to choose....

TS needs real, caring support...

jojobeach SG

I would agree. How would babies grow up if the system does not allow the birth parent to choose....

TS needs real, caring support...

How many parents of adopted children do you know ?

Are you even a parent yet ?

I have at least 3 couples of which 2 adopted children outside their own race . 4 teenage single moms who decied against aborting their babies . Growing up, at least 3 of my girl friends had abortions, 2 of which are unable to have kids due to scarring and 1 just went through her 3rd miscarriage.

You talk big.. but you have no idea what it's like to be a parent.

TS already clarified that guy is not his half brother.. go and read TS post properly.

The fact that you think aborting a baby is like a dental removal shows how IGNORANT you are. So please STFU.. educate yourself better before you come here and spout more nonsense.

Here's the stats you ask about..pertaining to psychological damage..

Research by David Reardon of the Elliott Institute has shown that, regardless of age, family size, race, marital status, or number of abortions, of those surveyed:

Ironically, though women seek out abortion as a solution to stressful circumstances, abortion itself can become a contributor to long-lasting stress of a different kind.

And yes.. if you are old enough to have UNPROTECTED SEX.. you are old enough to view photos of aborted babies..

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