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last SG · 2010-06-13T00:56:55+00:00

TS,道可道，非常道 [your lesson got teach you these 6 words?]The “way” is not by mere words or blind faith.If you think u have found your “way” follow your heart and...

littlemissbonkers SG

No prob!

Fcukpap SG

its 一貫道....

originated from taiwan which incorporates taoism, buddhism and confucianism...a synergy of different elements and schools of thoughts

TTFU SG

If its not as serious as a cult or enguaging in any illegal stuff then hai hao. Dont need to go so over to criticize one's beliefs. Judge for yourself whats important.

Fcukpap SG

too young to understand....maybe time will tell the pervasive truth....

kengkia SG

if TS is 17 he's going into NS liao...can temporaily get away from this religion if he chooses not to defer from ns to study poly/jc

Deino SG

What about the religion bothers you?

mancha SG

The reason you are in this situation is because you are neither here or there.

You are not a kid, at least you think so, and you are not an adult yet, but you think you are.

Your problem is one of acceptance.

In life you have to accept that sometimes you cannot have it your way. NS will teach you that there is a pecking order in human society. As you grow up you get more and more independent and free, how much depends on you and your station in life. There will always be rules and procedures to follow even as an adult, in whatever occupation you later take up.

As for now as a 17 year old, just obey your parents. Where do you stay and where your pocket money comes from? If you resist, you will feel uncomfortable, just go along until you can be on your own.

Rooney9 SG

its 一貫道....

originated from taiwan which incorporates taoism, buddhism and confucianism...a synergy of different elements and schools of thoughts

一貫道, 一 dian jiu de tao...where got so easy one.....

its definitely not Buddhism, or Taoist....its like a rojak religion.

popikachu SG

Yea, I know what religion it is... I was once pulled into one by my friends... lols

Arapahoe SG

一貫道, 一 dian jiu de tao...where got so easy one.....

its definitely not Buddhism, or Taoist....its like a rojak religion.

it is common among southern china....there is a root to its origin.

I believe you can trace it to Southern Song dynasty. 750 A.D. where lots of folks were drafted and die fighting with the Mongols. Back than there wasn't news about what happen to their love ones? where were the remains. Dead soldiers were mass buried. Families members were distress and worried.

There were huge community funeral celemonial either by family Clans or by Villages as such combination of all 3 teaching believe they all play a part in bringing back the lost soul back to the family, but i think it is more of allowing those alive to let go of the love ones.

That was how it evolved from here into a religion which is Rojak basically.

To Add: Some of the Saint figure is none other than rebellion general that fought against foreign invaders. As a remembrance and continue struggle against occupier by means of remembering them.

Arapahoe SG

TS,

First of all understand that if for some reason your deep calling is rebelling and wants to move out of this religion or ritual practics than you should listen to it. (There is a reason to it)

Many times it is not about the teaching of the "religion" but rather you have tried to seek explaination and answer but couldn't find. As such rebelling against the ritual becomes a survivor aspect of your growing to be An independent Adulthood.

Also need to taken account that your mind is still developing and needs answer, and homones changes at this age.

AT your age it is not about religion and being supersititious. You need Answers and further ritual and religion dogma isn't going to give you what you want.

My suggestion is to read up the origin of these ritual or religion particularly stretch to your family clam or the "Temple" Sometime knowledge and rationale is to unlock your misery.

PS: by the way since you are only 17 just thought that there are plenty more important decision you have to made. Growing up is about making important but mature decision. Just understand that you are still growing up. Be Bold.

Best wishes.

-StarDust- SG

From wad u said. It's Tian Dao or I kuan Tao.

U can leave this religion if u feel uncomfortable.

No one can force u to stay inside if u dowan. Some of my relatives(ex believers) left the religion already.

-StarDust- SG

一貫道, 一 dian jiu de tao...where got so easy one.....

its definitely not Buddhism, or Taoist....its like a rojak religion.

Yah rojak religion. It's a very complex religion.

Threadstarter u wanna leave the religion ,dun care abt ur parents just leave.

~PEPPER~ SG

Hope threadstarter gets his issues solved soon.

The thing is dont let ur mom control u. U tell her u have religious freedom.

Lokey SG

im 17.

since bout 4 or 5, cant remember, i was being brought into a religion by my parents.

some info about the religion is that, its not mainstream.

i have to be vegetarian and attend classes. sometimes lots of it.

a few years back when i told my mother that "i cant bring myself to believe in this shit"
i got slapped for the first time in my life.

i've been playing along with her, maintained my religious diet and attend classes.

i feel the sudden need to break away from these patterns.. what should i do? i need your comments.

the situation now is that i want to leave this religion asap but my whole family including my siblings is in this.. and of course my mother is still an enthusias.

i dont mind being a vegetarian since i feel im environmentally friendlier.. but i mind being restricted. PLEASE HELP ME

I ont see why you cannot leave the religion when you dont believe in it anymore. My friend is a malay and he used to be a Muslim and he is longer a Muslim now.

For me, I am a born Buddhist. So I used to pray and be a vegetarian on 1st and 15th on the month. But Jesus came knocking my head in my dream since I am in pri 6. So in another words, "God has chosen me". So I ended in Church for Sunday Service for a while. But strangely, I will still automatically end up in the temple on 1st and 15th month in Bugis without planning. So I believe one has to go with the flow and that is the principle for Tao.

So my advice is to go with the flow,

"Tonight, do some prayer tell him that you want to leave your religion, ask him to give you sign or signal for his approval or disapproval. Or shake the "sticks in the container" ask for his approval, Or throw the "gua", Or the "two piece wooden leafs". Since it is the will of your God, then you or your parents cannot say anything also. Every1 is happy. d

StrategisT' [] * SG

yes qiu dao.

strategist, i must say u misunderstood me.

im not thinking about meat since i have already ate them before and i've gone back to my vegan diet without a problem.

im just against this religion as whole.

I see I see . Same religion . It is not not mainstream , it's a different variation .

Sorry for misunderstanding , I understand your pain , since you've already experienced what meat tasted like .

Actually since i'm from "Qiu dao" , so I hope you can understand my point of view that I am against you of leaving .

Since you have attended lessons you would've understand that everything has a life and as you watch those killing process , it disgusts me and I do not know for you .

Ultimately if you're leaving , I believe no one can stop you even your parents . It's your life . One way is to speak to other elders of the religion when you go for "Ting ban" .

Most of them are experienced in a way , especially those conducting it .

It's sad to see someone from the same religion leaving , although I know the pain of good food and friend's not being vegetarian and myself getting mocked at .

One thing is that I am very lucky to be born a vegetarian .

I wish you the best .

Prevaricator SG

As a mortal, life is already a limitation, please fight for yourself, you're old enough to think for yourself. When I was 13, I broke free from my mother's bullshit that was fed since cradle. The first thing you should do is make a stand, and show yourself as an understanding individual that knows why and what you want in life.

dangerboi SG

post this in the spiritual or religion-concerned forums. we can't give advice here...it's actually a disrespect to your religion for we aren't even fit to give any comments on this.

Mr Milo SG

i do not have a hole to poke into

so sad

mancha SG

post this in the spiritual or religion-concerned forums. we can't give advice here...it's actually a disrespect to your religion for we aren't even fit to give any comments on this.

You are partly right.

This is not a relilgious issue, it is a personal problem of the TS.

Advise the TS, and not comment on the religion.

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