LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 4)

last SG · 2015-12-04T16:42:41+00:00

Hi mr busanalyser, don't think they will introduce 2 Punggol new services at the same time even though I see 2 plaques being constructed at berth B2 and B4 a...

SMB315C SG

167 did get a fleet add... 180 I thought got fleet downgrade when it became Boon Lay <> Petir Road (loop) and then again one bus was added... So original fleet size is same.

Sorry then, totally forgotten about 167's fleet add as well as 180's downgrade and upgrade..

phillipC SG

off topic a lit, LTA do screwed up in the distance fare calculator.

Adult travelling from Bukit Panjang Station to Newton is showing 28.8km and charging $1.91. via DTL2.

DTL 2 is only 16.6km. A lot of people get overcharged! Called and yet to get any response from the authority.

SBS BUSES LOVER SG

off topic a lit, LTA do screwed up in the distance fare calculator.

Adult travelling from Bukit Panjang Station to Newton is showing 28.8km and charging $1.91. via DTL2.

DTL 2 is only 16.6km. A lot of people get overcharged! Called and yet to get any response from the authority.

post on straits times or cna, then they will work faster lol

iveco SG

There is already 15 and 966 between Eunos and Marine Parade. One more!?!?

Really can't think of any routes that will not be duplicative. Also note that Haig road is extremely narrow between Geylang Serai and Dunman Rd. I don't know how can buses even ply on that road.

Marine Parade needs NO more services. Too many already.

How about this route? More like an extension than a new service, though.

BusAnalayzer SG

How about this route? More like an extension than a new service, though.

Okay... duplicative to other services and quite long. 121's main objective is getting people from Tiong Bahru to Ganges/Tehlok Blangah.

SBS7557R SG

No BSEP or PTO upgrades since launch of BSEP in 2012

150 - 201

151: Got DD-> SD downgrade, no fleet add. Has many alternatives along its route, but recently loading has picked up quite a bit between Macpherson and Hougang that could warrant an upgrade.

153: Still operating with same # DDs/SDs. Current fleet managing load well

156: Current fleet managing load well. 156 loading has tanked over the years, and 156A also was stopped

160: JB service. Horrible frequency. Definitely deserves fleet add.

166: got capacity downgrade from DD->SD (at least 4 slots in last 3 years). Loading on 166 has dropped over the years.

173: no fleet add/upgrade. Maybe now with DTL2, might get but will depend on loading

174: urrent fleet managing the loading well. I am not 100% sure if it got SD->DD in last 3 years? Someone can confirm.

177: thought this will get converted to full day service under BSEP or get extended to YT but did not happen

179: already operating with 27-28 buses with full fleet DD

180: already operating full fleet bendy

184: surprisingly this one hasn't got fleet add or upgrade unlike its other SIM/Clementi counterparts like 52/154

197: current fleet doing well. 197's loading depends a lot on other services such as 7 bet Guillemard and Bugis, 147 between China Town and Bukit Merah, 14 between Bukit Merah and Kent Ridge, 97 between AYE and Jurong East.

174 received SBS3845K (DD) last year, which is most likely a fleet addition.

BusAnalayzer SG

174 received SBS3845K (DD) last year, which is most likely a fleet addition.

174 def didn't get fleet add, but I do think it got SD -> DD last year. Not sure.

iveco SG

Okay... duplicative to other services and quite long. 121's main objective is getting people from Tiong Bahru to Ganges/Tehlok Blangah.

At least give credit for attempting to recreate the Sports Hub link. Not to mention the Marine Parade-Stadium-Suntec-Chinatown section is pretty much the old CSS4 being resurrected.

carbikebus SG

167 did get a fleet add... 180 I thought got fleet downgrade when it became Boon Lay <> Petir Road (loop) and then again one bus was added... So original fleet size is same.

167 didnt get fleet add since 2 years ago bro.I heard this March there is one more A/P duty for Amdep.

carbikebus SG

174 def didn't get fleet add, but I do think it got SD -> DD last year. Not sure.

Youre right,174 doesnt need fleet addition for now,Just another SD to DD will be enough.

jurongresident SG

BSEP new bus service 258 has problem with schedule adherence. Just now, I waited for 258 at Boon Lay Bus Interchange. The wait was quite long. The queue line went from long to short to long, as bus service 243G arrives. Finally, the bus 258 arrived, at 8:15pm. I took a glance at the queue line, it seems to extend all the way until the end of the yellow painted line. That's not the point.

The bus 258 arrived at 8:15pm at Boon Lay Bus Interchange. The point is that when that bus was at the first bus stop, I saw another 258 at the opposite side of JW street 64. When the bus was street 81, I saw another 258.

Clearly, bus service 258 has problem with schedule adherence. I hope someone can help me inform the time keeper at Joo Koon/Boon Lay Bus Interchange about it.

It has been fifty three days since bus service 258 was introduced on 21 November 2015. I hope by now the LTA knows the loading pattern of bus service 258. The loading is low (only a few cats in the lower deck) during regular hours and the loading is very high (up to half of upper deck occupied) during peak hours (up to around 8pm). I am sure the LTA knows exactly which are the hours the bus service has very high loading. I hope the pattern has been consistent enough over the past fifty three days, to deem it necessary for bus service enhancements (increase frequency) during the periods of very high loading.

SBS BUSES LOVER SG

Clearly, bus service 258 has problem with schedule adherence. I hope someone can help me inform the time keeper at Joo Koon/Boon Lay Bus Interchange about it.

+- correct

when the bus is b4 west wood pri - gek poh , another bus will be at the opp side

then when the bus is at st 71 , another bus opp

bus @ boon lay way junction/upp jurong rd , another bus

outside joo koon , another bus

pretty consistent , plus minus. its a loop service. Cant expect perfect timings at the looping area.

so far not much bunching, which is good.

SG5001C SG

Just wondering, what are the deployment rules on BSEP buses again? BSEP buses cannot run on non-BSEP routes, but is the reverse true? Because both 20 and 47 I notice seem to have non-BSEP perms.

Anyway, I suppose some of these rules may have to be broken for GCM.

dupdup77 SG

Just wondering, what are the deployment rules on BSEP buses again? BSEP buses cannot run on non-BSEP routes, but is the reverse true? Because both 20 and 47 I notice seem to have non-BSEP perms.

Anyway, I suppose some of these rules may have to be broken for GCM.

Hi mr SG5001C, BSEP buses cannot run on non-BSEP routes but non-BSEP buses can run on BSEP routes. Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

Feeders/Intra-town capacity increase (East)

222 >> 1 BSEP DD + 3 BSEP Citaro + PPSS

225 >> 1 BSEP DD + 1 BSEP SD

228 >> 1 BSEP Citaro

229 >> 2 BSEP Citaro

291 >> 2 BSEP DD + PPSS

292 >> 1 BSEP Citaro

293 >> 2 SD --> 2 DD (SBST), 1 SBST DD fleet add, 1 BSEP Citaro, 3 BSEP DDs + PPSS

This is the most improved feeder service in the east.

354 --> 2 BSEP Citaro

358 --> 2 BSEP Citaro

359 --> 3 BSEP Citaro

SBS7123J SG

I have overheard from some BCs at YCK interchange earlier today that 76 is going to extend to terminate at Eunos Int.

SBS6465E SG

I have overheard from some BCs at YCK interchange earlier today that 76 is going to extend to terminate at Eunos Int.

The only plausible extension I can think of is Marine Crescent > Marine Parade Rd > Bedok South Avenue 1 > Bedok South Road > New Upp Changi Rd > Changi Rd > Jln Turi > Eunos Int.

But it would mean eliminating the Marine Terrace sector which people will be quite unhappy with. Unless that will be part of a Eunos-MP new service? Perhaps a reinstated M4? Why not extend 135?

SBS 9256 X SG

The only plausible extension I can think of is Marine Crescent > Marine Parade Rd > Bedok South Avenue 1 > Bedok South Road > New Upp Changi Rd > Changi Rd > Jln Turi > Eunos Int.

But it would mean eliminating the Marine Terrace sector which people will be quite unhappy with. Unless that will be part of a Eunos-MP new service? Perhaps a reinstated M4? Why not extend 135?

Maybe it delete the sector of Tanjong Katong Rd to Marine Terrace... Then the new service cover the sector of Tanjong Katong Rd to Marine Terrace?

I feel if the route is like that, its a bit too long to reach Eunos Int... It gives another alternative for ppl in AMK to head to Geylang Serai... They should had left Svc 13 alone...

But then on the other hand, maybe it is also benefical... The route maybe not that complicated bah..

Something like this:

Towards Eunos: Marine Parade Road, Marine Cres, Telok Kurau Rd, Changi Rd, Jln Turi

Towards YCK: Sims Ave East, Jln Kembangan, Frankel Ave, East Coast Rd, Telok Kurau Rd, Marine Cres, Marine Terrace, Marine Parade Rd, Original Route

SBS6465E SG

Maybe it delete the sector of Tanjong Katong Rd to Marine Terrace... Then the new service cover the sector of Tanjong Katong Rd to Marine Terrace?

I feel if the route is like that, its a bit too long to reach Eunos Int... It gives another alternative for ppl in AMK to head to Geylang Serai... They should had left Svc 13 alone...

But then on the other hand, maybe it is also benefical... The route maybe not that complicated bah..

Something like this:

Towards Eunos: Marine Parade Road, Marine Cres, Telok Kurau Rd, Changi Rd, Jln Turi

Towards YCK: Sims Ave East, Jln Kembangan, Frankel Ave, East Coast Rd, Telok Kurau Rd, Marine Cres, Marine Terrace, Marine Parade Rd, Original Route

Possible. Telok Kurau & Frankel I think can take DDs. But I think very unlikely as it would only benefit Marine Cres - Eunos, and Frankel with a new connection from Kembangan and uni-direction link to MP.

OMG, someone here said Yishun - Eunos - MP. Don't tell me LTA is planning to extend 76 to Yishun also. That would be pretty screwed up.

array88 SG

Possible. Telok Kurau & Frankel I think can take DDs. But I think very unlikely as it would only benefit Marine Cres - Eunos, and Frankel with a new connection from Kembangan.

OMG, someone here said Yishun - Eunos - MP. Don't tell me LTA is planning to extend 76 to Yishun also. That would be pretty screwed up.

If Telok Kurau could take DDs, 15 would be majority DD fleet now.

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