LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 4)

last SG · 2015-12-04T16:42:41+00:00

Hi mr busanalyser, don't think they will introduce 2 Punggol new services at the same time even though I see 2 plaques being constructed at berth B2 and B4 a...

carbikebus SG

Any updates on the Joo Koon - Bukit Gombak service?

SMRT or SBST?

lemon1974 SG

SMRT or SBST?

Smrt. It is just temp service with 2-3 hrs of operation on sun/ph only. Sort of like the mrt shuttle last time when they close jurong east for the new tracks.

SBS BUSES LOVER SG

Smrt. It is just temp service with 2-3 hrs of operation on sun/ph only. Sort of like the mrt shuttle last time when they close jurong east for the new tracks.

IMO it should be daily at the rate their trains keep breaking down haha.

carbikebus SG

Smrt. It is just temp service with 2-3 hrs of operation on sun/ph only. Sort of like the mrt shuttle last time when they close jurong east for the new tracks.

Haizz,Waste time only.

SBS2656X SG

too many A22s but nowhere to put

yet feeders keep failing WAB quota ...

LTA screwed them over...

LTA funded too many purchases of A22s, and disallowed mass puchasing of bendies. (until recently when they decided 4 door bendies are wonderful as well)

carbikebus SG

LTA screwed them over...

LTA funded too many purchases of A22s, and disallowed mass puchasing of bendies. (until recently when they decided 4 door bendies are wonderful as well)

3 doors bendy is fine..but seriously if LTA funded another 60 units and SMRT keep on losing their interchanges where do you think those bendies will go?What if SBST win their interchanges?

SBS351M SG

3 doors bendy is fine..but seriously if LTA funded another 60 units and SMRT keep on losing their interchanges where do you think those bendies will go?What if SBST win their interchanges?

If lets say LTA buys bendies, then the operators will have to accept them, no matter what. Its the same case as now, whatever buses (SDs or DDs) they buy, or depots or interchanges they build, the operator will have to accept it. Same thing that has happened to London, operators had to accept the Citaro bendies then, and the NBfL now. If bus operators can't accept or can't adapt, then its their own loss.

carbikebus SG

Looking at the modern infrastructure of new interchanges,Do you still think LTA will buy bendies?Be honest with me.London already had ditch the bendies due to spacing and the road condition of the country thus they banned bendies.Only a few left mostly for Airport shuttle.If LTA keen on bendies they would have funded SMRT already and need not open tender for the three door concept DDs.

SBS351M SG

This issue you are discussing (bus interchange design) is separate from the issue you were discussing (a hypothetical situation which you already had said "if" in it). I was just answering the "if" scenairo you brought up, which is simply that if LTA decides to buy bendies, the operators have no choice but to accept, and in fact it is true for whatever buses they buy.

carbikebus SG

Dude,To buy bendies,You also need to look at the size of the interchange those buses is plying..You cant simply using more bendies for interchange that size similiar to Clementi right?I am not againts bendy bus usage but again look at the hints and approach that LTA did..See Woodlands feeders/Intratowns,Why until now they spammed with so many A22s when LTA declared them WABs?Svc 800?806?812?Need i mentioned more?Doesnt LTA take notice that those service in dire for bendy bus deployment?

SBS2656X SG

3 doors bendy is fine..but seriously if LTA funded another 60 units and SMRT keep on losing their interchanges where do you think those bendies will go?What if SBST win their interchanges?

Just give the DDs away lor
I don't see TIBS having much issue with full fleet rigids and bendies in the old times with even lesser routes to ply on than today.

carbikebus SG

Just give the DDs away lor
I don't see TIBS having much issue with full fleet rigids and bendies in the old times with even lesser routes to ply on than today.

Yes with their depot capacity and LTA added buses..else why they request to park their buses at Bulim and Loyang respectively?No need to think so much about bendies,I got a strong feeling that SMRT will lose Yishun as well and those Amdep A24s can transfer to Woodlands feeders/Intratowns already.If really LTA funded a bit more A24s,I am the first one very happy if they get some for GA and use for svc like 359 & 386.

SBS351M SG

I don't think you get what my previous 2 posts are, I am not discussing about the feasbility of bendies, we have discussed that before. I repeat that, I am just answering to your point of "if" mentioned in your post,"where do you think those bendies will go?What if SBST win their interchanges?" and I think that was answered in a simple to understand manner.

carbikebus SG

If SBST win Yishun,Then the 13 Amdep A24s can transfer to Wldep lor..LTA cant force SBST to use bendy when all of its BCs are not trained to drive one mah..Unless LTA funded more A24s thats a different story dude..You still havent catch any ball bro.Do you go for LTA/Bus companies meeting?

SBS351M SG

This is probably the fourth time that I'm saying this. I am not discussing about feasbility of bendy buses here, that has been discussed a number of times, and I do not wish to discuss it here now. All I did was to answer specifically on the question posed by you about "where do you think those bendies will go?What if SBST win their interchanges?".

If you still don't get that I have not been discussing about the feasilibility of bendy buses, there is nothing I can do.

carbikebus SG

If you still don't get that I have not been discussing about the feasilibility of bendy buses, there is nothing I can do.

I thought the answer is already posted above so no issue here..Look dude im not againts any bendy buses goes to any operators or what..But seriously there is always a reason why there is only 40 units of A24.Period and please get on with the topic rather than discussing about if here if there bendy here bendy there.

SBS351M SG

I thought the answer is already posted above so no issue here..Look dude im not againts any bendy buses goes to any operators or what..But seriously there is always a reason why there is only 40 units of A24.Period and please get on with the topic rather than discussing about if here if there bendy here bendy there.

The bolded part is the exact same thing that I have NOT discussed on. You were the one who kept talking about the feasibility of bendy buses when I did not touch on that at all.

My point is, if LTA decides to buy (NOT that they will buy or whether it is good or bad to buy, I repeat NOT) bendy buses. The operators will just have to accept it, and train their staff for it, as with any other bus they receive.

My side of the discussion on this page of this thread has never been on bendies themselves, but on the obligations of both bus companies and the authorities in a GCM landscape regarding bus assets, and it applies to all types of buses, as mentioned in the first post of this page.

carbikebus SG

The bolded part is the exact same thing that I have NOT discussed on.

My side of the discussion has never been on bendies themselves, but on the obligations of both bus companies and the authorities in a GCM landscape regarding bus assets.

But seriously,Other operators has the right to reject bendy buses if they arent keen on it.Unless die2,LTA says they have to use it if they want the contract but until now there is no rules or regulations that TT or GA must also bendies if they win SMRT routes.This issue we had already discussed in meetings with LTA months ago..Someone brought it up and LTA themselves had no intention to buy bendies unless they have plans for that in future.They were merely discussed on the feasibility of the three doors DDs to us only.I understood what you meant,No worries no wrong or right here.

SBS351M SG

If its in the contract specs, there is nothing the bus operators can do. If its not in the contract specs, then its up to the operators to accept or reject it or accept it but with change in terms.

carbikebus SG

If its in the contract specs, there is nothing the bus operators can do. If its not in the contract specs, then its up to the operators to accept or reject it or accept it but with change in terms.

Its not in contract term la,TT also dont have that contract terms also.If you still in doubt then wait for the Sungei Seletar package.I got nothing to say since you are always full in doubt with me.

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