LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 4)

last SG · 2015-12-04T16:42:41+00:00

Hi mr busanalyser, don't think they will introduce 2 Punggol new services at the same time even though I see 2 plaques being constructed at berth B2 and B4 a...

BusAnalayzer SG

That makes sense, but it would make 48 slightly longer. LTA might not want to play with long-haul services, although 48 is quite direct and was extended in the past.

As for the new Bedok North service, looping at Bedok North St 2 would be good. Also, great if it connected Bedok South Rd, then there would finally be a link between Bedok South Rd and Bedok North. (Yes, 46 technically links the two estates but it will only serve Bedok South Av 3, but a well planned route nonetheless).

It does not make sense to extend sv 48 to CBP. There is already sv 47 that is parallel right from Parkway Parade to CBP. The loading on 47 needs to still pick up, for 48 to go CBP.

BusAnalayzer SG

At least better than trunk service 860 and 882 which only ply within Yishun and Sembawang towns respectively..I predict service 48 will terminate at Changi business park later and a new short trunk service will cover the route along bndep and loop somewhere in Bedok North

You forgot that there is 47 to CBP from Marine Parade/Bedok South.

BusAnalayzer SG

26 diversion also proves that PTOs/LTA is okay with trunk services doing some detour within estates to provide trunk service (not just feeders).

Likewise 46 also connects inner roads such as Tampines Ave 3, st 83 that only have feeders. Now these too will get trunk service.

azharjj SG

Will soon have with Canberra Estate near completion. Some HDB blocks in Canberra already painted.

traffic lights have commissioned for all the junctions at canberra estate since 6 may (accroding to LTA website)

so, anytime there will be buses around that area soon

azharjj SG

Excellent. Sv 46 is like I proposed for sv 14 extension to Tampines. It is to connect UEC/Bedok South/Fengshan to future DTL3. Also with this they are connecting Tampines Ave 3/st 83 to DTL3.

Good move. I think the route will do well with DDs.

Alternately, it could have done Tanah Merah MRT - UEC and sv 45 could have been diverted to CBP instead.

oh ya

i forgot about DTL3. acts like a feeder to those living near DTL stations

good move!

anyway ya, fengshan estate really rely on 14 & 222. i tried waiting for bus to go to that area from north ave 3 area. sometimes, the waiting time can kill haha

SBS6465E SG

How will they free resources from winding routes if not chopped and merged?

After DTL3, I suspect there will be some rationalization that will happen.

Maybe I wasn't clear. New services on top of chopped up routes. I.e, route A is split into Route A & B, but there may be route C also.

SBS6465E SG

It does not make sense to extend sv 48 to CBP. There is already sv 47 that is parallel right from Parkway Parade to CBP. The loading on 47 needs to still pick up, for 48 to go CBP.

Upp East Coast deserves a connection, especially Bayshore. 48's bit from Tanah Merah MRT to BNDP is quite redundant. Let's not forget that CBP/Changi South is quite large, so the two services could serve different sectors, to minise duplication.

SBS6465E SG

26 diversion also proves that PTOs/LTA is okay with trunk services doing some detour within estates to provide trunk service (not just feeders).

Likewise 46 also connects inner roads such as Tampines Ave 3, st 83 that only have feeders. Now these too will get trunk service.

Yes and no. LTA takes a nuanced approach.

carbikebus SG

My exact sentiments

carbikebus SG

You forgot that there is 47 to CBP from Marine Parade/Bedok South.

Svc 48 can divert to other area.

carbikebus SG

26 diversion also proves that PTOs/LTA is okay with trunk services doing some detour within estates to provide trunk service (not just feeders).

Likewise 46 also connects inner roads such as Tampines Ave 3, st 83 that only have feeders. Now these too will get trunk service.

Because svc 26 is not considered a long trunk svc and furthermore its quite direct to interchange because it only skipped 4 bus stops and gain 10 bus stops unlike svc 28 which distance is over 23km in one direction and the jam proned route it goes.Svc 46 is just another 69 which provide inter town connectivity.

BusAnalayzer SG

I don't understand your point. Explain how will residents of ave 9, st 45, st 32 etc. go to Tampines CC, SAFRA, Bedok etc. if sv 28 is not there. There is at least 80-100 pax on sv 28 every morning turning out to Tampines Ave 2 towards TPY. Similarly, PM there is heavy loading on sv 28 to go to the inner part of Tampines estate.

28 will never be cut or modified because it is a high loading route with NO alternatives.

BusAnalayzer SG

Actually... 48 could have been extended to CBP if sv 47 had not been introduced.. I don't see the use of 2 services from Marine Parade to go CBP.

What is needed is a CBP service going to Bedok North. Actually 46 could have been CBP-Tampines via Bedok North Road, but I think they made it ply Bedok South Ave 3 keeping in mind future DTL3.

array88 SG

Finally. Both Fengshan and Tampines West have been suffering from terrible inter-town connections and I must say 46 effectively killed many birds with one stone, with connections to DTL and TEL (Sungei Bedok) as well.

Just that loading in Bedok may not pick up before DTL3.

carbikebus SG

28 will never be cut or modified because it is a high loading route with NO alternatives.

Skipped st 41/45/31/34 lar..Can always ask feeder to use that route to the nearest MRT or so called 80-120 pax as you claim in Ave 2.28 freq is quite good leh and i hardly see 80-100 pax reaching Ave 2 also.For your info i do time checking for bus service in Eastern and Northeast part of Singapore also leh.

shellstation SG

28 should stay the way it is, at least for the Tampines to Bedok part.

46 is a quite well-planned route. I see a few major high demand segments after DTL3 opens.

1) Tampines Int > St 83 / Ave 3 (291 fleet cut?)
2) Tampines West MRT > St 83 / Ave 3
3) Bedok Reservoir MRT > Bedok North Blk 85 and beyond

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr carbikebus, sbs 28 is just like sbs 3. They belong to those types of trunk bus services, doing some inner roads. This is due to the fact that Tampines and pasir ris are big towns and need some trunk services to absorb residents along certain segments of the inner areas/streets. Cheers. Thanks.

Axiis001 SG

array88 SG

Thanks for forcing students from all those schools in the inner parts of N3/4 to go all the way back to interchange and transfer from there. And not everyone only takes bus to MRT/interchange...

gekpohboy SG

Bus 46 is not wheelchair accessible. I guess this means it will use buses currently on bus routes going to Bulim depot, which will become "redundant" when TT takes over. So, I am expecting Scania K230UBs on this new service. :)

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