Both protagonists in both anecdotes are losers in their real
life. In fact, both protagonists were already losers in their own
lives when they surrendered their own worth to the people in
their society to decide.
In an ideal society where people are perfect, this may sounds
like the right thing to do. However the society isn't perfect and
neither were the people in the society. So to rely on an imperfect
society full of imperfect people to decide your worth is truly
living in a pathetic life indeed. It's almost the same as the
protagonist asking the society "Am I a loser?". Only losers will
ask this kind of question in their lives. But of course the only
natural reply from the society would be "Of course you're not a
loser". And this doesn't means anything when the comment does not
truly generated from within yourself.
Losers like to live in a life of lies and denial and that's is
the main reason why they seeks happiness from the people in their
society. Because deep down within their hearts, they are not able
to accept the truth about their own lives....which tells them that
they are a failure.
And the answer to your question, everyone will eventually pulls
themselves together and try to waste their lives seeking continual
assurances from their society to convince themselves against the
truth in their hearts that they are not a failure in their
lives.
This is not really Life, but it is THE life for many, alot,
plenty of people in this world.
Oh ya...a few fine examples of forumers living such loser lives
would be Fantagf, HyperionDCZ, maurizio13, youyayu. 
Yea, I agree with you, parn. So to Fantagf, HyperionDCZ,
maurizio13 and youyayu, let me give you an advice. As the saying
goes: "no one in the world is perfect", please don't allow those
imperfect people like parn affect you with their disparaging, and
many times nonsensical, comments - simply put, ignore those
people.