SMRT trials MAN double-decker bus

last SG · 2014-09-28T10:05:57+00:00

Now we knew why SMRT only orders 101 Alexander Dennis Enviro 500.I guaranteed this will be a sucessful trial and probably they will order at least 150 units...

carbikebus SG

If I am not wrong, seems like only left with 3604Z and 3606T, sometimes zero. Even 5076J and 5077G nowadays keep doing on its rival 857, which I dunno why AMDEP like to pamper 857 so much. And also the fact that SMRT keep giving new DDs to the other 2 depots instead, I also dunno why.

There are also several occurrences during weekday peak hours whereby out of 5 854 buses in sequence, only 1 of them is a WAB. This is getting very horrible.

I really hope that AMDEP can swap out 4-5 DDs from 857 side with the old bendies from 854 so as to make it fair to the WAB quota for both services. Until the day when more DDs enter AMDEP.

Now both SBST and SMRT also suck thumb cannot do anything much about bus operation thing since LTA already in charge.Just wait for Sungei Seletar to ready lor

vicamour SG

There are also several occurrences during weekday peak hours whereby out of 5 854 buses in sequence, only 1 of them is a WAB. This is getting very horrible.

I really hope that AMDEP can swap out 4-5 DDs from 857 side with the old bendies from 854 so as to make it fair to the WAB quota for both services. Until the day when more DDs enter AMDEP.

Those routes that ply within the city will get double deckers in priority. Since there will be more MAN A95s coming in, it's a matter of time that 854 gets more double deckers. And 857 is also partially controlled by Woodlands depot.

SMB145B SG

ah?

854 does not ply in the city.

but the number of bendies on 854 is dam too high!

TPS Timothy Mok SG

ah?

854 does not ply in the city.

but the number of bendies on 854 is dam too high!

No complaints for sure in 854.

67, 106, 176, 188, 190, 851, 857, 963, 964, 965, 966, 969, 972, 980 - among of whom sure got complaints that need double deckers!

The only services (short-haul) that has double decker include 302, 308, 811E, 911 (full journey), 945 (once).

All Yishun feeders will get in once!

BusAnalayzer SG

No complaints for sure in 854.

67, 106, 176, 188, 190, 851, 857, 963, 964, 965, 966, 969, 972, 980 - among of whom sure got complaints that need double deckers!

The only services (short-haul) that has double decker include 302, 308, 811E, 911 (full journey), 945 (once).

All Yishun feeders will get in once!

On the highlighted above, are you dreaming that they have DDs? :))

BusAnalayzer SG

No complaints for sure in 854.

67, 106, 176, 188, 190, 851, 857, 963, 964, 965, 966, 969, 972, 980 - among of whom sure got complaints that need double deckers!

The only services (short-haul) that has double decker include 302, 308, 811E, 911 (full journey), 945 (once).

All Yishun feeders will get in once!

By the way out of the trunk services you have highlighted, loading on sv 67 has dropped significantly even in the Tampines-Geylang stretch in recent months.

TIB 585L SG

No complaints for sure in 854.

67, 106, 176, 188, 190, 851, 857, 963, 964, 965, 966, 969, 972, 980 - among of whom sure got complaints that need double deckers!

The only services (short-haul) that has double decker include 302, 308, 811E, 911 (full journey), 945 (once).

All Yishun feeders will get in once!

No complaints doesnt mean that 854 need less DD. Yishun to YCK Rd already so packed during peak hour. 857 has bad frequency, 854 have alot of OCs and bendies. Would love to have more on 854. Plus it is the service that brings people to HG area from Yishun, surely there are a lot of them that commute on this service.

BusAnalayzer SG

Yes agree 854 needs more DDs.

854 route can be cut short to Eunos since the part to Bedok is redundant with sv 25. 857 frequency has improved quite a bit. Service doing so much better now with >50% DD fleet for a full rigid fleet.

TIB 585L SG

Yes agree 854 needs more DDs.

I think one day 857 will be a full fleet DD which i really hope so. Not coz of the crowd at YCK Rd but it is the crowd that dragged all the way from Suntec to Orchard to Little India. Alot of people take 857 all the way to Yishun from these area.

BusAnalayzer SG

But to be honest 857s peak loading is between YCK Road industrial estate and Yishun (people also have 854 to choose here). The DDs get heavily used between 530-630pm.

The crowd from Little India/Serangoon Road to Yishun hovers around 50-70 pax per bus but is more consistent and spread out from 530-730pm.

857 as of today is doing quite decent in my opinion. 854 is the one that needs more SD->DD conversion because the number of rigids on this service is absolutely disapponting.

TIB 585L SG

But to be honest 857s peak loading is between YCK Road industrial estate and Yishun (people also have 854 to choose here). The DDs get heavily used between 530-630pm.

The crowd from Little India/Serangoon Road to Yishun hovers around 50-70 pax per bus but is more consistent and spread out from 530-730pm.

857 as of today is doing quite decent in my opinion. 854 is the one that needs more SD->DD conversion because the number of rigids on this service is absolutely disapponting.

Maybe weekend need top up DD for 857 coz the crowd at town and little india on weekends warrants a lot of DD

BusAnalayzer SG

Maybe weekend need top up DD for 857 coz the crowd at town and little india on weekends warrants a lot of DD

Yes weekend I agree 857 can be full fleet DD.

SMB145B SG

i think 169 still could get some A95s

106 is already full fleet DD (Wrights and E500)

i don't see 980 with any DDs yet.

TIB 585L SG

Yes weekend I agree 857 can be full fleet DD.

But 960 n 856 steal alot of DD from 857/169/963/969/966 when they are unused during weekends.

carbikebus SG

i think 169 still could get some A95s

106 is already full fleet DD (Wrights and E500)

i don't see 980 with any DDs yet.

980?Forget it la,Until now the most is they deploy an off service bus from Wldep to compliment the fleet thats all.Its only a matter of time if 167 & 980 is included into the third package.LTA should also funded more A95s for svc 169 instead of SMRT spamming more A22s.

SMB145B SG

the OCs on 980 is AMDEP not WLDEP/WLBP. same for the random taros.

at least put the O405G, and why is 169 WAB in the first place?

carbikebus SG

the OCs on 980 is AMDEP not WLDEP/WLBP. same for the random taros.

at least put the O405G, and why is 169 WAB in the first place?

The off service bus is usually MAN A22 from Wldep.

SMB1368T SG

Pls la you can always see a bendy on 980 every Sunday to cope with the crowd at Little India. Its normally a MK 2 (TIB980D) which is deployed

carbikebus SG

I am talking about the weekdays deployment of only 13-14 buses not on Sundays.Weekday peak hours is the most jialat one,From 13-21 mins of waiting with fully packed buses.

Sbs6750E SG

SMRT deploy DD on 180 for what when 180 have full bendy fleet? The DDs can give to other needy svcs like 167 and 980 which do not have any high-capacity buses at all.

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