SMRT trials MAN double-decker bus

last SG · 2014-09-28T10:05:57+00:00

Now we knew why SMRT only orders 101 Alexander Dennis Enviro 500.I guaranteed this will be a sucessful trial and probably they will order at least 150 units...

SMB1333T SG

960 fleet had improved quite alot ever since more B4 WEGs enter WLDEP to replace the old bendies. The worse off currently are those Woodlands feeders.

For 854 fleet I am fine with the deployment of any DDs, be it E500 or A95. As long as the old bendies dun anyhow spam 854 and the WAB quota is met.

960 fleet has indeed improved.. but 128B is anti-SBST and dislikes anything sbst based (as from his posts, isnt it?)

so his opinion of 960 fleet sucks is just due to many B9TLs (though many agree that B9 is better than enviro) and not capacity issue...

SMB128B SG

960 fleet has indeed improved.. but 128B is anti-SBST and dislikes anything sbst based (as from his posts, isnt it?)

so his opinion of 960 fleet sucks is just due to many B9TLs (though many agree that B9 is better than enviro) and not capacity issue...

Again stop taking my words out of context. Never had I said 960 fleet sucks in capacity. I only said that the presence of E500s should be a good thing by itself since it has a PIS unlike the B9. I'm saying that for each E500 someone here dreads to get, there are other svcs whose DDs doesn't even have PIS. I do not deny that 960 is healthy with its fleet of DDs. And just coz the B9s suck doesnt make 960 an incapable service in terms of capacity. Its just that its ridiculous to have A95 v E500 when HELLO there are worse buses like the B9??

And yes I'm proudly anti-SBST and all its accompanying attributes. Would be appreciated if you'd stop digging up the past and intimidate me with it. What good does it do for you anyway?

SMB128B SG

960 fleet had improved quite alot ever since more B4 WEGs enter WLDEP to replace the old bendies. The worse off currently are those Woodlands feeders.

For 854 fleet I am fine with the deployment of any DDs, be it E500 or A95. As long as the old bendies dun anyhow spam 854 and the WAB quota is met.

Dont take my words out of context. I'm not denying that 960 has been better in terms of capacity. I'm just saying that an ADL v E500 debate is ridiculous given how there are svcs spammed w B9, so inadequate it even lacks PIS

SMB128B SG

You should be thankful that 854 gets A22/OC/E500/A95/O405G and occasionally Citaro..I can't imagine if you live in either Pasir Ris or Punggol area where you can only see Citaro and B9TL đđđđđ

Exactly right!!

SMB315C SG

This is SMRT (AMDEP) haha. They rotate most of the buses all every few weeks.. No such thing as a bus belong to a sv...

but this also means the enviros wont stay on 854 forever and a95s may return after rotations..

There's almost an equal amount of Enviro500 & A95 (76 & 75 respectively) under AMDEP.. Either way they're still double-decker buses but with different specs..

SMB1333T SG

And yes I'm proudly anti-SBST and all its accompanying attributes. Would be appreciated if you'd stop digging up the past and intimidate me with it. What good does it do for you anyway?

Haha chill la the forum is meant for discussions right?

And anyway, I never mentioned you said that 960 sucks in terms of capacity. I mentioned capacity issues in the post to say that 8676Z had misunderstood your post as that was what he took it to be (based on my interpretation)

I dont know how I have intimidated you with the post and digging up the past? I was mainly just refering to your post the previous page in this same 854 issue discussion

The post wasnt aimed against you or anything like that so dont overthink man

SMB128B SG

Haha chill la the forum is meant for discussions right?

I dont know how I have intimidated you with the post and digging up the past? I was mainly just refering to your post the previous page in this same 854 issue discussion

The post wasnt aimed against you or anything like that so dont overthink man

Okay yea now I see what your post meant. I was the one taking you out of context. My apologies, and cheers haha

iveco SG

Yah so I'm crossing my fingers that someone will go lower than SBST.

Sekali it is WTS haha.

SMB145B SG

Sekali it is WTS haha.

WTH?

Maybe SBST is preferred?

SMB128B SG

Sekali it is WTS haha.

Is WT that bad though? They've never bidded low anyway so

SMB1368T SG

frankly saying they are average. Sometimes they are on time and but can also be very unsatisfactory

hgdep103 SG

Yah so I'm crossing my fingers that someone will go lower than SBST.

if sbst lowest price > SBST wins

if sbst not lowest > LTA will say SBST bid quality best > SBST wins

u cant do anything if the transport planner just wants sbst...

SMB128B SG

if sbst lowest price > SBST wins

if sbst not lowest > LTA will say SBST bid quality best > SBST wins

u cant do anything if the transport planner just wants sbst...

Err that's not true. If thats the case SBST would have won Loyang as well.

And why would LTA want to blatantly protect SBST? Shares in Temasek Holdings?

hgdep103 SG

Err that's not true. If thats the case SBST would have won Loyang as well.

And why would LTA want to blatantly protect SBST? Shares in Temasek Holdings?

was just giving an example... what i was saying is if the transport planner wants something, it will go his way... like how 76 was blatantly amended

carbikebus SG

Err that's not true. If thats the case SBST would have won Loyang as well.

And why would LTA want to blatantly protect SBST? Shares in Temasek Holdings?

The first two packages is just for show only..I'm sorry to say many in the industry prefer SBST..Its some sort of personal preference..TTS will come second and i no need to explain much.SMRT is like walking in a thin rope although its under Temasek..GAS i dont see any future either.So in future prepared to see only 3 'personal' choice operators with SBST again the majority.

carbikebus SG

was just giving an example... what i was saying is if the transport planner wants something, it will go his way... like how 76 was blatantly amended

Are you hinting at the Senior Planner?đ¤

AntiDennisLance SG

In this respect I kinda agree with the "industry" wrt SMRT ... in fact they should just focus on running the rails properly and ditch the bus business. I dont mean to cause hurt to SMRT bus drivers, but SMRT management had only managed to show that it is capable of only properly managing a bus business of a scale that harks back to the TIBS days prior to the Bt Panjang and CCK takeover.

Their recent improvements had been directly due to LTA, BSEP and the provision of GreenBus Co buses.

SBS8676Z SG

Their recent improvements had been directly due to LTA, BSEP and the provision of GreenBus Co buses.

Agreed. I am just hoping that SMRT lose the Sembawang-Yishun package (all AMDEP controlled) by 2020.

Anyway back to topic, are they anymore B3 A95s being registered lately? It has been some time ever since the last unit was registered. Or is LTA waiting for the next batch of old bendies to go off next month?

Gus.chong SG

Agreed. I am just hoping that SMRT lose the Sembawang-Yishun package (all AMDEP controlled) by 2020.

I suppose they would be waiting for the bendies to go off...after all there are quite a higher number of A95s and B9TLs already assigned to SMRT as compared to the MK2 bendies de-registered.

iveco SG

Tibs didn't do too badly during the brief period when they controlled SKG, did they?

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