BusAnalayzer SG Since you are so smart I should not be seeing you here as a keyboard warrior and instead go and join LTA and be part of their transport development team.It doesn't come across to me that 187 is a DD needy service though to be honest and giving DDs would only be a waste of space and should be given to services that needs it more and most of the crowds should subside (for this case ITE CW) by 2000 or later as most students would've been home by then (if they do not have CCAs) and deploying DDs should last no more than peak periods and standbying 1 is already lenient enough. For 969's case I can't comment much especially on weekday peaks but there is a clear demand on weekends, from what I can remember and hence the need to standby DDs on weekends.Not every service is a high-demand service that requires the demand of DD (with the exclusion of feeders) and usually most of them are empty on the upper deck by 2100 hours or later. whatever, smrt boy!!
TIB 585L SG I prefer if 2-4 SD to HC bus conversion though for 187. Last time got 1025, 1064, 1063, 1180 and 1089. Now left 2 bendies plus 2 DD
carbikebus SG 187 better with DDs as there are many long distance travellers..Maybe a fleet of 21 MAN A22/7 MAN A95.28 buses is enough.
BusAnalayzer SG 187 better with DDs as there are many long distance travellers..Maybe a fleet of 21 MAN A22/7 MAN A95.28 buses is enough.Yes my thoughts too. There are good number of long distance travellers that can occupy upper deck. + there are 2 high loading points for short distance.Lakeside MRT -> JW/JE Ave 1BBT MRT -> BBT West Ave 4
carbikebus SG Anyway there is still numbers that can be use..1,44,71,104,108,110,114,126,127129,137,144,146,148,149,152,164,202,203,204,205..
AJQZC SG Yes my thoughts too. There are good number of long distance travellers that can occupy upper deck. + there are 2 high loading points for short distance.Lakeside MRT -> JW/JE Ave 1BBT MRT -> BBT West Ave 4Arguably the latter can be efficiently solved by deploying DDs on 947 during peak hours (this involves swapping 947 and 990's berths)
BusAnalayzer SG Arguably the latter can be efficiently solved by deploying DDs on 947 during peak hours (this involves swapping 947 and 990's berths)Yes but 947 loading alone is around 40-50 pax. It is mainly 187 comes with around 30-40 pax and gets another 30-40 pax boarding at BBT Central. Hence, the loading on 187 goes to around 60-80 pax. This is after 187 having 31 buses that more so compensates for 947.When DD is deployed there will be a good 30 pax on upper deck as they are long distance travelers.
BusAnalayzer SG 187 better with DDs as there are many long distance travellers..Maybe a fleet of 21 MAN A22/7 MAN A95.28 buses is enough.I agree. Maybe should tell SMB31X who is living in fool's paradise by defending the massive rigids on 187.
SMB31X SG I agree. Maybe should tell SMB31X who is living in fool's paradise by defending the massive rigids on 187.If you are game enough then you should submit your application to state why you should be part of LTA's transport development team, Instead of being a keyboard warrior complaining why 187 doesn't have enough DDs It's not asif 187's loading is very volatile like 169 190 966 (just to name some) to justify the addition of DDs like you stated. That stretch of road has enough services to bridge the gap and if I live in JE/W Ave 1 I can take 99 157 185 198 334 etc instead of taking 187 'alone' from lakeside MRT to that strech of road over there. This service is just fine as it is and DDs can be put to better use in other needy services.I can't imagine if selfish people like you were to manage SMRT really, If SMRT listens to people like you by adding DDs just because 187 has demands from that stretch of road then I guess needy services like 169 190 966 will suffer hard just because of your selfishness alone
SBS6465E SG Anyways, this thread is for discussing NEW bus routes. The discussion is a bit off, so I shall not comment too much on the 187 tussle. Also, I don't live or work in the west, so before I get flamed, this is my 2-cents. My impression of 187 is that it is designed as an inter-town link between Bukit Gombak/Bukit Batok & Jurong West/BPJ, and duplicates 963 (to some extent 966), between BPJ and Woodlands. It also acts as a feeder at Lakeside (compliments many services) and Bukit Batok (compliments 947). As for Boon Lay to Woodlands, while direct, it's quite a winding route to take. Even between BPJ and Boon Lay you have 180 which is quite fast. So I don't quite understand the long-distance argument for using DDs. While direct, it is quite a winding route to use. Frankly, I think a better solution could be to introduce a 187M from BPJ to Boon Lay. No?
SMB1368T SG Haizz BPJ has so many issues with bus connections. No wonder too many bus services here are overcrowded despite DDs
BusAnalayzer SG If you are game enough then you should submit your application to state why you should be part of LTA's transport development team, Instead of being a keyboard warrior complaining why 187 doesn't have enough DDs It's not asif 187's loading is very volatile like 169 190 966 (just to name some) to justify the addition of DDs like you stated. That stretch of road has enough services to bridge the gap and if I live in JE/W Ave 1 I can take 99 157 185 198 334 etc instead of taking 187 'alone' from lakeside MRT to that strech of road over there. This service is just fine as it is and DDs can be put to better use in other needy services.I can't imagine if selfish people like you were to manage SMRT really, If SMRT listens to people like you by adding DDs just because 187 has demands from that stretch of road then I guess needy services like 169 190 966 will suffer hard just because of your selfishness alone IGNORED. I know there are many others who agree with me here on 187, so I am not going to try and explain to someone who is SMRT boy.
SMB31X SG Haizz BPJ has so many issues with bus connections. No wonder too many bus services here are overcrowded despite DDsActually BP I'd say it has more than enough bus services to bridge every corner of the island though if you look closely. If I were to go town I have 171 or if I want a faster way I can take downtown line. If I want to go Boon Lay I can take 180 down etc. If you can't contend with what you have then I have nothing much to say.
