New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs (Part 2)

last SG · 2016-02-09T10:18:07+00:00

If you're here to encourage people to take the MRT above the public bus, I feel that you have come to the wrong forum. SGTrains was created for a reason.So i...

dupdup77 SG

tbh 15 should have been the one amended to Tampines Concourse. If people can alight at TP library and walk, why not do the same too?

Hi mr SMb1368T, let the extended service 18 do the job. 18 connects tampines concourse interchange with tampines ave 7 at TP library. No need bring about 15 and mess it up. Cheers. Thanks.

201911 SG

End-to-end as in St Michaels to Tampines? I wonder if Bartley MRT to Tampines MRT can be just as fast by svc 129 vs by MRT? This would probably be the more meaningful comparison IMO as opposed to comparing with a destination that has no MRT access anyway (which is what LTA likes to do BTW ...)

(I think Bartley MRT to TP should definitely be faster by svc 129 vs MRT then svc 23, but who knows?)

Actually Bartley to Tampines (or Tampines West) by MRT would be even faster when DTL3 opens. I think 129 is more to complement the MRT as a fast, long haul connection, especially between Toa Payoh/Bartley and Temasek Poly (alternative to taking MRT all the way to Tampines West and transferring to a bus).

carbikebus SG

tbh 15 should have been the one amended to Tampines Concourse. If people can alight at TP library and walk, why not do the same too?

LTA where got love GA?They love SBST more.

BusAnalayzer SG

Hi mr SMB128B, since when 39, 168, 858 stops at selected stops along TPE? They stop at the only stop along TPE. Not selected stops.

129 stops at selected stops at Bartley road. Some stops along Bartley road are skipped. Different analogy with 39, 168, 858.

Anyway, you can say all are semi-express. Cheers. Thanks.

Well, dupdup you have been proved WRONG again

On this forum, you snubbed some people saying if a service plies along a certain road, it cannot skip stops if it is a normal service. 129 is a normal service but skips many stops along Bartley road.

Now are you going to accept you were WRONG on snubbing people who made such suggestions before or ARGUE to justify you are right?

BusAnalayzer SG

You have not seen svc 20 loading...

PM peak, queue stretches to McD, often disrupting human traffic flow...

20 at least needs something like 4, where the queue is at least aligned with the berth... The "berth" it has now is rly a very last resort measure...

Honestly idek how tf a bus could board there lor...

Not really... I have observed it many times before. There is also 292, 39 at same berth for people to go Tampines Ave 2 (which is usually the preferred boarding berth).

autumncs SG

Even 518 is a shining example...

First is amendment to Bayfront...

When ECP shut down and traffic junctions started appearing EVERYWHERE LTA refused to remove the stop at Bayfront MRT, even though:

1. With the opening of the Sheares Link junction it is pointless for 518 to detour round Marina Blvd to hit expy when it could be done via Sheares Link, and

2. Passengers who wish to board 518 there could simply walk over to the MBS bus stop via the MRT station, making that stop completely irrelevant

But ofc LTA was stubborn/lazy af, so now under the usual route commuters suffer 3 new traffic lights... The longest one was the one turning into the expy, takes 2-3 mins alone to change signal...

Sometimes I don't understand why LTA can't build a left-turn slip road to bypass the traffic light, or allow "left-turn on red". I believe Singapore drivers are smart enough to give way to traffic on the right if necessary. It is stupid to wait for the light to turn green when there's no traffic from the right (esp at night).

autumncs SG

Even if DTL3 + CCL is faster, I will still choose to take 129 because it's direct, I'm more likely to get a seat, and I can admire the scenary along the way. (If I take the train, the only "scenary" is my fellow passengers.)

lemon1974 SG

so for sv129, they decided to print a slightly bigger size poster (think A3 size) and they now paste on the information board at bus stop instead of the tiny bus stop poly...

BusAnalayzer SG

Even though MRT will be faster (not way faster), 129 is direct without transfer. Moreover, exit of Tampines DTL3 is quite far from Century/Tampines Mall. In addition, if someone is not going close to MRT, 129 will give direct access or quick transfer points within Tampines town, rather than alighting at Tampines MRT, walking to interchange and queuing at berth.

dupdup77 SG

Well, dupdup you have been proved WRONG again

On this forum, you snubbed some people saying if a service plies along a certain road, it cannot skip stops if it is a normal service. 129 is a normal service but skips many stops along Bartley road.

Now are you going to accept you were WRONG on snubbing people who made such suggestions before or ARGUE to justify you are right?

Hi mr busanalyser, firstly, I do not agree with the words 'WRONG' and also 'AGAIN'. Up until 28-11-2016 12pm before news of service 129 broke out, I am right. So no reason for 'WRONG' and also 'AGAIN'. Please retract your words since LTA changes its own definition only after 28-11-2016 12pm. Basically until this date and timing, LTA has always stick to the principle that if a service passes by a road, it will always serve the stops along that road.

Secondly, I never snubbed any people. I am friendly towards all people and also when people attacked me. So please also retract the word 'SNUBBED'.

Thirdly, your last statement hopes no water. Basically I got nothing else to prove. I also have no plans for a war of words with you here. So please be mature and let this end here once and for all. Just let the forumers here judge for themselves. Certainly I do not expect you to start off a war of words with this post of yours earlier. Anyway, I also end off the message with cheers and thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

Secondly, I never snubbed any people. I am friendly towards all people and also when people attacked me. So please also retract the word 'SNUBBED'.

My friend, all I am hinting at is: STOP telling people, this is NOT possible, because now through many examples, what you said was not possible has happened. I hope you realise it. That's it.

array88 SG

Is it just me or will 127 be entering Tampines North in the future? Otherwise there seems to be heavy duplication with existing routes.

dupdup77 SG

Is it just me or will 127 be entering Tampines North in the future? Otherwise there seems to be heavy duplication with existing routes.

Hi mr array88, this is due to the road called tampines industrial avenue 5 which have a few companies there. Cheers. Thanks.

orange28 SG

Is it just me or will 127 be entering Tampines North in the future? Otherwise there seems to be heavy duplication with existing routes.

Indeed I think 127 will be a prime candidate to make a detour and serve the new HDBs in Tampines North (Tampines Greenridges/Greenweave) on its way to Tampines Ind Ave 5 ... Which may also explain why there is svc 127A -- to serve as future feeder role to the HDBs in Tampines North?

BusAnalayzer SG

Is it just me or will 127 be entering Tampines North in the future? Otherwise there seems to be heavy duplication with existing routes.

I believe 127 will cover Tampines North in future and still loop around Industrial ave 5. I wonder how much loading will be there still most of those companies have shuttle buses unless LTA has agreement with them to stop the free shuttle to force people to take 127 instead.

72 also hardly gets loading in this area. Most of 72's loading towards Tampines comes from Defu and Logisitcs park.

BusAnalayzer SG

There is 127A?

hgdep103 SG

There is 127A?

yea... read the poster carefully

BusAnalayzer SG

yea... read the poster carefully

Yep. Zoomed in and saw.

SMB128B SG

Not really... I have observed it many times before. There is also 292, 39 at same berth for people to go Tampines Ave 2 (which is usually the preferred boarding berth).

Then you may have observed at the wrong timing...

I occasionally take svc 20... Most of the time the queue will stretch...

I dont see whats so hard with creating a new berth... At least have one that is similar style with 4? Or just shift it to TC int, since as u said little ppl board it anw?

BusAnalayzer SG

Since there is speculation that 135 will be cut short, here is my suggestion.

135

AMK Interchange

AMK Ave 8

AMK Ave 1

Lor Chuan

Serangoon Ave 2

Upper Serangoon Road

Upper Aljunied Road

Aljunied Road

Kallang Way

Lor Bakar Batu

Macpherson Road

Bendemeer Road

Geylang Bahru

Kallang Bahru

Boon Keng Road

Lor 1 Geylang

Lor 1 Geylang Terminal.

* Connect Kallang/Macpherson Industrial estate to upcoming DTL3 MRT @ Geylang Bahru

* Covers for shortened 853 (see below)

* Missing link between Paya Lebar and Marine Parade covered by full fleet DD service 43 and 134 (make full fleet DD after 135 modified).

* 135 may have DD potential with upcoming new Upper Aljunied Road.

853 (loop service)

Yishun Interchange

Yishun Central

Yishun Central 2

Yishun Ave 2

Lentor Ave

AMK Ave 6

AMK Ave 3

AMK Ave 8

AMK Ave 1

Lor Chuan

Serangoon Ave 2

Upper Serangoon Road

Serangoon Central

Boundary Road & back

* 853 missing sector between Serangoon and Lor 1 covered by

(1) modified 135 that will cover from Bendemeer to Lor 1

(2) 133 in parallel from AMK Ave 1 to Bendemeer Road

(3) 107 in parallel from Serangoon to Kallang Bahru

* 853 will serve where its most beneficial between Serangoon - AMK - Yishun towns as its loading otherwise is pathetic.

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