Don't condemn people in AA

last SG · 2007-06-22T16:26:18+00:00

Well, you're the one who claims to be an old man, so "kid" is relative. Better yet, you're an old man who still has to worry about his boss looking over his...

morbid4ever SG

Hoo hoo...when many ppl says u are the one not making sense.
My typo error is corrected b4 anyone told me about. So this is the mistake i made and corrected on.
This I suppose is the mistake I make.
I made no mistake about clerifying the parts on logics, and neither do I claim to be God like. Only U insist that I am god like.

I dont think anyone here makes a fool except u.

Still my statement remains clear, if u want to argue with me about logics, u dont stand a chance. I did not wasted my 4 years as a math major for nothing.

And read ppl post clearly, obviously u are trying to twist ur way out without even picking on which technical part of error I have made on logics.

Ur so call humour and sarcasm doesnt work. Simply saying, U are not a good writer.

For someone who cannot refute my posts on logics and stoop so low just to pinpoint my typo error, U really have no substance.
This is the lousiest trick I ever seen.

No one here claim to be god like, but we do have basic understanding on logics and logics being a branch of mathematics is consistent everywhere in the universe. Here we are trying to tell u the basic and correct forms of arguments and u claim that we are god-like?
U are living in ur own world and refuse to accept the knowledge on logics which were created by Giants of the past. They were the true geniuses and I pale in comparision.

binarynwitz SG

After 9 pages, it is clear which stand makes sense.

Yet the lone fighter refuses to admit his mistakes, and goes on with his "okay you win" tantrum. I wonder.

Why are you here debating, when you cannot stand other people's opinion and instead tries to claim "big man" and pretend to "let others win"?

Rolling Eyes

"OK LA OK LA. I SHUT UP. YOU WIN YOU WIN."

morbid4ever SG

Nah...
Answer the qns truthfully andrew...
Did I say: I am the best in logics, there is no one that can be on par with me.

I dare say I did not.

What u claim to be and how u distort my true message is...

Me: REALLY SORRY. If u wanna talk logics with me u dont stand a chance.

Ur argument is
Premises:REALLY SORRY. If u wanna talk logics with me u dont stand a chance.
Morbid4ever says she is much better than pkyap in logics.

Conclusion by pkyap: Morbid4ever claimed that she is the best and most perfect logician ever.

Mistakes: The conclusion do not follow neccessarily from the premises. I.e do not fall into the 9 basics forms of valid argument.
Rather,PK yap make additonal assumptions to make this invalid conclusion.

When I say I am better than u in logics I did not claim to be the best.

It seems that u dont even understand basic connectives such as "for all" and "there exist" in logics.

Yes, u are right to say logic is only a tool. It is a tool use to aid understanding, not for u to misuse it nor misguide ppl with. The worse thing is u dont even have a basic grasp in logics and u make groundless accusation.

AndrewPKYap SG

This, precisely my dear friend is what I did not want to get into with you.

You spend time analysing the "logical" errors for what? Were the logical errors committed in this case, whether on purpose or otherwise, relevant and central to the issue/topic at hand?

Apply some wisdom when you apply your rules of logic, please.

Take yourself out of the "argument and debate" for a second and reflect whether you/I should take the time and trouble to "clarify" "analyze" "apply the rules of logic" to each and every post that people make, or we should simply say: "OK you win!"

Why only rules of logic? Why not "rules of linguistics" and "rules of effective writing" for two...

So you stick to the "main issue/s" at hand and when people come and jer siow (disturb) ... let them win lor...

And so once again,

morbid4ever FTW! Laughing

AndrewPKYap SG

binarynwitz FTW! Laughing

MiX Metal SG

Why are u being so defensive when what Xiaozzhen said has got nothing to do with you ??

The only one that is making a fool out of themselves is you and you alone. Call yourself an old man and behaves like a child. Rolling Eyes

AndrewPKYap SG

MiX Metal... FTW!!!!! Laughing

Gedanken SG

Couldn't agree more, my boy, couldn't agree more.

Just like you saw fit to dictate how people should find out what "good" arguments are, only to have it proven that people like morbid already know them better than you do, and that you, in fact, know precious little.

Yes, m'lad, pride does come before a fall, and how gloriously you have fallen.

allentyb SG

oh man

i miss out on so much 100th, 150th, 200th post

AndrewPKYap, having fun with your debate again?

AndrewPKYap SG

All I can say is... I pwned you! hahaha just joking... how are you? Very Happy

Gedanken SG

Hmm, that's funny. My first post in this thread addressed two problems with your first thread, namely the issues about labelling people as religious fanatics and as thiking of themselves as Gods. These were never satisfactorily resolved as you have still not justified your labels.

Are you sticking to the main issues? If you are, you're doing a terrible job of it.

AndrewPKYap SG

hahahaha you are incorrigible... none of your numerous posts and rebuttals even dare to address the issues...

"Does it make sense to require that people raise their level of formulating an argument to the level of perfection or simply to an acceptable level?"

"When someone insists that there is only "perfection" or "damnation" are they not committing the fallacy of the missing middle?"

I wonder if you, the "argument expert" and the other guy, the "logic expert" have ever heard of the phrase "idiot savant" Rolling Eyes

allentyb SG

Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
All I can say is... I [b]pwned you! hahaha just joking... how are you? Very Happy [/b]

i just re activate my internet a while ago, erm, fine, good, looking for a job

allentyb SG

so i can see that you are having fun, debating, and flaming others again

ahhhh, i have missed out so much 'fun'

AndrewPKYap SG

You need a history lesson? Please see...
28 June 2007 · 12:06 AM
28 June 2007 · 12:55 AM
28 June 2007 · 10:38 AM
28 June 2007 · 11:32 AM

In my opinion, more than enough bandwidth was spent addressing your nick-picking concerns... which in my opinion happen to suggest that you are simply behaving like a peacock... while the main issue was whether people should condemn others or simply give their opinions...

continuation of the history lesson... we then went on to debate if it is wise to suggest that people be held to the highest standards of formulating an argument or simply as I suggested, to an acceptable level... given that we are in sgforums...

AndrewPKYap SG

looking for a job? what happened?

Gedanken SG

And who decides what an acceptable level is? You? I think not, seeing as how you conveniently switch topics and shift goalposts whenever the occasion suits.

Morbid has already outlined a clear and exceedingly simple example of how your argument structure is flawed and the way in which you make huge leaps to conclusions that have no bearing on the premises.

If that's your standard of "acceptable", well, you may be slipshod enough to accept it, but others find it simply inconscionable.

Yes, I've heard of idiot savants, and come to think of it, you're half of one yourself. Guess which half.

allentyb SG

i forgotten to pay my bills, and then went for a couple of interviews, so i have to send more resume again, later on in the evening, oh well

i condemn people all the time, wah, at least i am being truthful about what i think or what i feel about the thread, and furthermore, i still feel that ignorant is not a bliss, so we have to 'educate' them to bring forth the truth, as to, awake their being, bring them forth towards the light, instead of being political correct in each and every post.

i applaud your bravery for creating such a thread

i think two days ago, i was watching one news broadcast in channel 5, one news actually caught my attentions, the news broadcaster was talking about cyberbully, and i was basically laughing my ass out, they actually, have to educate those poor moron at the secondary school, on how to tackle cyberbully, how about, next time, they actually, comes up with a course - dip in dealing with cyberbully,

i mean, seriously, if those dickhead, can't handle remark, they might as well, don't post in a forum, that silly little kid, was talking blah blah blah on the tv about bully, ha ha ha HA!

Gedanken SG

I ask again, who decides what "acceptable" is? You?

So many posters here do not agree with what you have said and how you have reached your conclusions and recommendations (as if you had any place to make these in the first place). The very fact that there is so much disagreement with what you have posted and how you have made your point in itself tell you that your level of "acceptable" is way too low for others to accept.

allentyb SG

there is no way in hell, anyone of you will be able to come up with an utilitarianism

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