A v.gd friend held back by her persistent ex-bf

last SG · 2007-04-18T13:52:47+00:00

No you do not have to apologise. And neither will I. Each of us did no wrong to one another. Truce accepted.

SumOne SG

Life is complex if there is not a clear line between black or white, right or wrong. Life is complex when there exists too many grey areas.

Haiz.... now it's not even talking about too many grey areas. It's way below that.

I pretty much agree with him about the being extreme part. It's one thing to be clear cut, but it's a different to be way over and extreme. Sometimes, if you don't take things into totality, you will jump to wrong conclusions. Like saying all man are gullible, assuming every guy is a lecher and a pervert, thinking a parent displays a different love just because he is a father of sons and not daughters.

It seriously doesn't seem like that. Note that this is coming from more than one person. At least, you always seem very negative where guys are concerned.

jojobeach SG

What do you know ???

Frankly, do you think I care about how you judge me ?

jojobeach SG

"Extremely" is a word too extreme to be used against someone seeking to bring a different perspective to the issue at hand.

Note that as much as I disagree with your postings. I don't put it all down to merely "extreme" or "negative" or such .

If you cannot look at things from different angles, you are not a very effective thinker.

The world is not flat, neither should your thoughts be.

SumOne SG

Contrary to what you think, "extreme" and "different" perspective are not the same thing to me.

I think you need to listen to your own advice. It was my point to you all along..... Still, thanks for your advice and noted, with or without the sarcasm. Also, even though it may not really apply to me.

jojobeach SG

SumOne,

Honestly, based purely on your replies to my postings.

I seriously believe you don't know what you want.
If all you seek is a agreement or validation to your postings.
Sorry, I am not one who prefers to patronise.

So tell me SumOne, what is it you seek ?
To be proven correct ?
To set rules on how forumers should post their view ?

Please do not go around policing how others should or should not think. Or how they should post their messages.

You don't go around telling others how they should wear their clothes do you ?? I hope not.

SumOne SG

Enough to know what I'm seeing. I'm not saying I know a lot, but yeah, I get the idea here. Your manner of response does confirm certain things I and another have discussed. But like you said, it doesn't bother you.

I am not judging you or anything, but I can only ask that you heed your own advice. To take things into totality and have a wider perspective of things. If you cannot look at things from different angles, you are not a very effective thinker. Different angles would also mean how people intended it, not how you put your own meaning into it. Jumping to conclusions is not what an effective thinker does either.

The world is not flat, neither should your thoughts be.

"All guys are gullible?"

"All guys are chi ko phek?"

The fact that you are able to say these things to me shows what I'm trying to tell you is not anything new, I just hope you listen to your own advice.

jojobeach SG

Ahhhh.. and the truth shows itself....

I laughed when I read this reply.

When you say I jump to conclusions.
Arn't you also jumping to conclusions too ?

Guys are gullible if they proved themselves to be.
Guys are chi ko phek if they proved themselves to be.

SumOne SG

I know what I want, and it's none of the above.

I think you understand already by now, I'd give you enough credit for that. The fact that you know what to disagree about my posts says a lot in itself. I think you're aware of your own actions and posts as well even if I really am the first to point them out to you.

But if you really want a statement from me, then it would be to follow your own advice.

SumOne SG

I'm glad it amuses you, but just hope you can see the truth behind it.

Again you sidestep the point altogether, and put on a different meaning from what I was saying. In any case, I don't see any need to clarify the above examples. But you've basically proven to me the mindset you have, especially where guys are concerned.

jojobeach SG

Rolling Eyes whatever ~

SumOne SG

Dear jojo,

I've seen enough of your posts to know I'm not jumping to conclusions. You perhaps will defend yourself by stating otherwise, no comments on that. I don't wish to let you carry this conversation in a different direction and meaning again, but I'll just leave you with the following.

If you cannot look at things from different angles, you are not a very effective thinker.

The world is not flat, neither should your thoughts be.

SumOne SG

I know you understand the logic. Good night jojo.

-A feminist gone too far is as bad as an MCP-

jojobeach SG

And yes I understand my logic. I just don't care about yours.

Good night.

SumOne SG

Laughing Once again, you prove the point. Good night Jojo....

jojobeach SG

Once again you proved the point. you're really worst than my mother.

SumOne SG

Laughing not that you ever made that point earlier in the first place.

DaExodus SG

I thought my thread dead.

Anyway, if anyone of you is still interested..

This weekend went on, was with her for two days.
Well i do not know the extend of her intention towards her ex-bf, every small action from her got my imagination running wild.
Yes, Im having a fucking hard time dealing with this matter.

So if anyone of you could help me direct my approach, please say so.
I'm planning to hold her hand soon and do a face to face confess. I must fight.
I must leave my comfort zone so my reward would be given in surprise.
I have come so far, there is simply no way for me to say throw down my towel.

SumOne SG

Hey man, based on what has been said and what you are telling us. She will not choose you despite not going back to her ex. She has already dropped hints that she is not considering you.

Ultimately, you do what you feel like doing and I can only say be true to your heart. But honestly, it doesn't seem promising now, especially since you really seem to want to make her your gf now. Whatever you do has to be sincere. But if it's not meant to be, then let it go.

Just continue to be her friend because the very least she would want to is to lose a friend. Whatever happens in future, happens. But for now, don't force it no matter how much you feel like it. It's not a good idea to persist after she has said no, well kind of.

That's my suggestion, ultimately whatever you do, you must feel comfortable doing it.

dokono SG

TS, be a MAN. Do the right thing. Mr. Green

Im not asking you to bash the other guy up. Ask yourself what do you really want from her? Sex, relationship or both? Or is it just the pride for your sake so that it feels good to win a girl from a rival? Or is it everything? What do you really want ? I think you are just fighting for yourself.

Im telling you confessing to her will get you rejected again because she has rejected you before. Im telling you not wasting your time on someone who doesn't feel it for you is the smartest move you can make. When a girl doesn't feel it for you, you can do nothing.

In fact, the best thing you can do right now is nothing. Better still, get to know a few more girls. You are placing too much value on that girl who may be overpriced to say the least. What has she done to deserve your reward? Kinda like some overpaid people in Singapore now? Anyway, what I will do is just delete her number and all her messages. Then you will not think about her...makes you strong. Wink

doko

soul_rage SG

note what I mentioned, as SumOne said, I did not say the crimes are totally forgivable.

On the contrary to what you tell me, you seemed to think that life is black and white. You do not look at life as grey. To you a crime is a crime. You don't seem to care about the reasons behind it.

Life is never complex. Its coz you want to look at it in that way that its complex. I also don't think you are making life simple for yourself. Till now, I find that you are a negative and pessimistic person.

I have read your posts with SumOne, and you are reaching the boundary of being nasty. At least 2 forum-lites here both think you are too extreme, not only one (so you cannot say that SumOne thinks the world of himself)

Finally, as I mentioned before, remember what you wrote in another thread.
"Before you point fingers at others, self-reflect on yourself". Its as what SumOne said, you don't seem to heed your own advice.

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