Loss-making bus routes

TPS Timothy Mok SG

Besides winding bus route, what else could it be? Loss-making of money?

Svc 81: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon to New Bridge Road. In the end, decided to shorten in addition to too long a route. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 82: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon to Shenton Way.

Svc 85: Intended to be loss-making from Sengkang to Dhoby Ghaut, in the end decided to withdraw altogether because of the poor usage, and high operational costs.

Svc 97: Intended to be loss-making from Hougang to Connaught Drive, diverted to Esplanade Drive & Suntec City on 27 July 2003, requested since 2000 to go Marina Centre via the old 79 routing. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 103: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon to New Bridge Road, then merged with 378/379 and extended to Seletar Airport permanently in 2003. Extended to Yishun later after Yishun Interchange moved out to temporary interchange. Upgraded to QIC on 7 December 2003.

Svc 106: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon Gardens to Dhoby Ghaut, instead planned to go Suntec City/Shenton Way/MBS on 27 July 2003. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 111: Intended to be loss-making from Hougang to Kitchener Road, to cut cost SBS / LTA / master planners decide to shorten it instead. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 502: Intended to be loss-making from Sengkang to Dhoby Ghaut, instead planned to go Suntec City/Shenton Way/MBS on 27 July 2003. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 501, 511, 512: All loss making, demand dropped due to the MRT popularity but instead should have kept the route for 12 months until 13 May 2004.

Svc 858: Huge loss making for bus drivers. The route have too much options. Note, please ensure that 858 should have a BSEP service to act like 972.

TIB868X SG

i dont think any routes were created to be loss operating back then. anyway, with distance based fares, you can bet that intra-towns/townlinks and feeders are not making a cent of profit.

BusAnalayzer SG

i dont think any routes were created to be loss operating back then. anyway, with distance based fares, you can bet that intra-towns/townlinks and feeders are not making a cent of profit.

Not true. They would make money on trips to interchange (especially AM peak).

SBS3004X SG

Besides winding bus route, what else could it be? Loss-making of money?

Svc 81: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon to New Bridge Road. In the end, decided to shorten in addition to too long a route. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 82: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon to Shenton Way.

Svc 85: Intended to be loss-making from Sengkang to Dhoby Ghaut, in the end decided to withdraw altogether because of the poor usage, and high operational costs.

Svc 97: Intended to be loss-making from Hougang to Connaught Drive, diverted to Esplanade Drive & Suntec City on 27 July 2003, requested since 2000 to go Marina Centre via the old 79 routing. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 103: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon to New Bridge Road, then merged with 378/379 and extended to Seletar Airport permanently in 2003. Extended to Yishun later after Yishun Interchange moved out to temporary interchange. Upgraded to QIC on 7 December 2003.

Svc 106: Intended to be loss-making from Serangoon Gardens to Dhoby Ghaut, instead planned to go Suntec City/Shenton Way/MBS on 27 July 2003. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 111: Intended to be loss-making from Hougang to Kitchener Road, to cut cost SBS / LTA / master planners decide to shorten it instead. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 502: Intended to be loss-making from Sengkang to Dhoby Ghaut, instead planned to go Suntec City/Shenton Way/MBS on 27 July 2003. Upgraded to QIC on 27 July 2003.

Svc 501, 511, 512: All loss making, demand dropped due to the MRT popularity but instead should have kept the route for 12 months until 13 May 2004.

Svc 858: Huge loss making for bus drivers. The route have too much options. Note, please ensure that 858 should have a BSEP service to act like 972.

You should really go to IMH. Which company would want to lose money intentionally?

SMB145B SG

oh yeah the service to IMH loses $millions daily. so where can that cut?

carbikebus SG

I cant believe you all still reply to his post after you all knew who he is...Tsk Tsk

TIB 585L SG

I cant believe you all still reply to his post after you all knew who he is...Tsk Tsk

Im surprised to see he is still posting for nearly 10 years and never get bored of it

SMB145B SG

i wonder what is he trying so hard? somemore is a veteran.

ah-soh SG

If you noticed his posts, most of the time it doesn't make senses and is pure fantasy.

I believe he have autism so just ignore him lah.

vicamour SG

Even if the route is loss making, it is the requirement for the operator to operate the service under its area. There is always profit making routes that can cover the losses of the less utilised routes.

So what is the point of this topic?

dupdup77 SG

Even if the route is loss making, it is the requirement for the operator to operate the service under its area. There is always profit making routes that can cover the losses of the less utilised routes.

So what is the point of this topic?

Hi mr vicamour, yes I concur. Cheers. Thanks.

carbikebus SG

He the TS just love to troll around..Most of the svc affected is because of NEL.Nothing to do with loss making,Most of the svc shortened still survived till today and in fact is money making too.

vicamour SG

He the TS just love to troll around..Most of the svc affected is because of NEL.Nothing to do with loss making,Most of the svc shortened still survived till today and in fact is money making too.

Depends. Some services are not making money but still required to run due to conectivity, like 84, 91, 191, 882.

carbikebus SG

Suprisingly 403 is during Monday-Thursday.Fridays and weekends still make a small profits..Maybe extend it somewhere like Changi Village would be better.