Your Own Deployment (Part 3)

last SG · 2010-01-26T19:45:15+00:00

Expect this deployment goes from this sunday onwards: TIB504X TIB544E(WLDEP SP) -> (WLDEP 922)Fleet add of 2 due to extension of route

BusAnalayzer SG

Ppl prefer to walk instead of taking this svc o0

Not true bro. Please observe at Potong Pasir MRT between 18.00 and 20.00 hours. Lot of people board sv 142. Also already 30-40 pax every bus come from TPY to Potong Pasir HDBs.

BusAnalayzer SG

Add one S-Shift DD for SWT 113A?

Never put citaros on 113.. Citaro trial failed.

Sunday the frequency already up to 26 minutes..

IMO 9-10 buses should be adequate

Now even 3 dedicated buses for sv 113A not enough??

SBS5010P SG

3355H should be deployed on sv 81 as fleet add.

Just replace one kub with WEG. IMO 15 buses enough alr considering some empty buses during peak hours. If dds are properly scheduled during PM peak, should be adequate. I see 81 2-3 kubs full but DDs come either empty or upper deck fully seated.. Not well planned

SBS5010P SG

Now even 3 dedicated buses for sv 113A not enough??

2 buses 113A still 20 min each bus frequency lols. 1 113A will go back to HCI sharp at 7.30pm

SBS5010P SG

Add one DD for 113A lc? Those KUBs and that DM can handle already. Should put it svcs that need it more. Don't teesiao like that sbst191.

113 after 8pm also packed leh. 1 S-Shift DD not overboard?

SBS 6078 M SG

113 after 8pm also packed leh. 1 S-Shift DD not overboard?

Can make crossover during that time.

SBS5010P SG

[OT] is 119's empty dds loss of revenue to SBST or LTA?

SBS8710H SG

Buses:
SBS5038K SBS5063L SBS5119K SBS5162J SBS5163G

5 Scania K230UB (5 Batch 2 Euro V)

Notes:

Buses:

SBS6060M SBS6329P SBS6682T SBS6683R SBS6684M
5 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 Batch 1/1 BSEP Batch 1/3 Batch 2)

Notes:

Buses:
SBS5055K SBS5056H SBS5100M SBS5116T SBS5117R SBS5155E SBS8846A

7 Scania K230UB (6 Batch 2 Euro V / 1 Batch 1 Euro V)

Notes:

Buses:
SBS5060U SBS8379G SBS8482R SBS8499T
4 Scania K230UB (3 Batch 2 Euro IV / 1 Batch 2 Euro V)

SBS6301T SBS6625J
2 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 BSEP Batch 1 / 1 Batch 2)

Notes:

Buses:
SBS5153K SBS8382X SBS8483M SBS8498X SBS8537S
5 Scania K230UB (1 Batch 2 Euro V / 4 Batch 2 Euro IV)

SBS7515L
1 Volvo B9TL (1 WEG2 Batch 1)

SBS9821P
1 Volvo B10TL (1 Volgren)

Notes:

BusAnalayzer SG

[OT] is 119's empty dds loss of revenue to SBST or LTA?

LTA la... But 119 DDs will not be much of a loss... as much the buses on 120 will... completely empty la... 90% of the time. Even 141 loading not picked up beyond 30-40 pax.

BusAnalayzer SG

My point is LTA 119 still has more loading than 116, 120 and 141 - so I don't think LTA is bothering too much about 119 as of now.

Sv 4, 20, 50 loading is pretty good.

SMB128B SG

My point is LTA 119 still has more loading than 116, 120 and 141 - so I don't think LTA is bothering too much about 119 as of now.

Sv 4, 20, 50 loading is pretty good.

Svc 4, 20 and 50's loading are not only good, but TOO good - residents of Flora Rd have long complained on the long waiting times of svc 4 and its horrific load. I can guarantee you during weekends you will never see a svc 4 crossing Tampines North CC towards the int without people being squished onto the doors. And you should see svc 4 queue at Tanpines int too. Svc 50 also had really bloody crowds too. Every Sunday without fail you will see all the svc 50 packed to the doors - that includes DDs. Full seated and no space to spare at all.

SBS5010P SG

Statement about Svc 4 and 50 is exaggerated.

Svc 50's sunday crowds not that packed at all.

Svc 4 partially agree

SBS5010P SG

LTA la... But 119 DDs will not be much of a loss... as much the buses on 120 will... completely empty la... 90% of the time. Even 141 loading not picked up beyond 30-40 pax.

141 diff, cause route very short. 120 and 119 have very long routes so the calculated loss will accumulate.

BusAnalayzer SG

141 diff, cause route very short. 120 and 119 have very long routes so the calculated loss will accumulate.

I think your statement on sv 119 is also exagerrated. Don't forget it is one of the few services that connects the highly populated Rivervale area in Sengkang with Sengkang MRT and areas of Hougang, Kovan.

AM peak the load in Rivervale area is easily around 65-70 pax (just touching the DD need) and in PM peak between 50-55 pax. So though DDs are not necessary, it is not like the route is loss-making.

That's why I ask what is your criteria to determine that a route is loss-making?

BusAnalayzer SG

Statement about Svc 4 and 50 is exaggerated.

Svc 50's sunday crowds not that packed at all.

Svc 4 partially agree

May be his comments are exagerrated, but for new services they are definitely doing very well, and have higher load than many old services.

I infact foresee in a few years or maybe even sometime next year for sv 4 and sv 20 to get split shift DDs.

All those who said sv 50 does not need that many DDs, including some season old-timers here, go see now. Sv 50 is doing very well especially between Sengkang and AMK Ave 5 during AM peak and opp direction between Bishan and AMK Ave 5 and again from Jalan Kayu to Sengkang.

The segment around Punggol loading is poor but that is more so because the area is still under development, but in a few years will gain traction.

BusAnalayzer SG

141 diff, cause route very short. 120 and 119 have very long routes so the calculated loss will accumulate.

If you ask me 120 and 141 need route revision. Even 116 can be modified.

SBS 6238T SG

If you ask me 120 and 141 need route revision. Even 116 can be modified.

I agree on 120 part,the service is totally reduncant,need to amend the route. I have seen only 1 pax on 120,horrible and terrible. About service 116,can you tell me how to modified the route?

SBS5010P SG

I agree on 120 part,the service is totally reduncant,need to amend the route. I have seen only 1 pax on 120,horrible and terrible. About service 116,can you tell me how to modified the route?

Modified 116

Hougang Interchange

Hougang Ave 4

Hougang 1

Serangoon North

Yio Chu Kang Road

Boundary Road (Route where 24,76,81,82,103) Plies

Upper Serangoon Road

Outside Nex Bus Stop

Yio Chu Kang Link

Yio Chu Kang Road

Serangoon North

Hougang Ave 4

Hougang Interchange

SBS5010P SG

If you ask me 120 and 141 need route revision. Even 116 can be modified.

120 can cut short, no need to loop and loop in many estates.

141 can be longer instead of terminating at geylang lorong 1 ter, can terminate around shenton way?

SBS 6238T SG

Modified 116

Hougang Interchange

Hougang Ave 4

Hougang 1

Serangoon North

Yio Chu Kang Road

Boundary Road (Route where 24,76,81,82,103) Plies

Upper Serangoon Road

Outside Nex Bus Stop

Yio Chu Kang Link

Yio Chu Kang Road

Serangoon North

Hougang Ave 4

Hougang Interchange

The boundary road and upper serangoon road part is longer than the actual route and also got lot of traffic jams that can cause delay to the pax and a slower connection to Serangoon Station. Remember what 116 was meant for is faster connection between Serangoon North Avenue 4 to Serangoon Station

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