Route Suggestions (Part 6)

last SG · 2015-07-28T14:42:23+00:00

Hi mr pathlight, there is northeast MRT line. Cheers.Or Service 47: Joo Koon > Sengkang

SMB128B SG

Hi. I would like to recommend a new express bus service which runs between Tampines and Jurong.

This express bus service is mainly for the East-siders to get to the schools in Clementi and Dover, and to the Jurong Lake District.

This express bus service is for the West-siders to get to Temasek Polytechnic, and to the MacPherson area.

Everyday, many people travel across the East and West. I am sure this express bus service will be well-received by the people.

As this express bus service is mainly for the East-siders and also for the West-siders, I shall assign the number "510" to this bus service. "5" means it's an express bus service. "1" is the middle number for express bus services in the East. "0" is the middle number for express bus services in the West.

Express bus service 510
> Jurong East
Length = 28.32 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 40 mins (at most 80 mins); around 60 mins.

Express bus service 510
> Tampines
Length = 29.66 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 42 mins (at most 84 mins); around 63 mins.

This looks way better than the one you proposed earlier.

Possible for this svc to touch clementi or extend to boon lay

One-Punch Man SG

I know this is SUPER CRAZY and will not happen anytime soon. But just some fantasy.

Service 164: Boon Lay - Changi Airport (Loop)

(via Choa Chu Kang, Bukit Panjang, Sengkang West, Punggol)

Link: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zvASY1AjT64M.kocYpKz5us4Y&usp=sharing

- Inter-town connection between Boon Lay, CCK, BPJ and Punggol (and a bit of Sengkang West)

- Relieve load on some popular inter-town routes such as 172 and 180

- Direct service for the abovementioned towns to Changi Airport

- Faster and more direct connection from Punggol MRT to Changi Airport

- Relieve load on 858 from TPE bus stop to Changi Airport

Cons:

- TOO LONG

- A bit winding in Sengkang/Punggol area

- Cannot use DDs, and I don't think SBST will get bendies anytime soon

There is bus service 858 which runs between Changi Airport and Woodlands, and it serves almost all the areas in the North-East region served by the bus service you recommended. There are other bus services in this region which provide for the bus connections you recommended. Furthermore, there will be new bus services 117 and 118 coming soon. Hence, I do not think there is a need for the Eastern part of the bus service you recommended.

Likewise, for the section between Choa Chu Kang and Yishun, there are already bus services in the Bukit Panjang town which provide such bus connections.

Nonetheless, based on your recommendations, I have come up with two new bus services: 967 and 968.

It could have been one bus service running between Boon Lay and Punggol, but it would be too long (more than 22.5km) for a trunk bus service. So, I split it into two bus services.

Bus Service 967
Woodlands > Punggol
Length = 18.13 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 35 mins (at most 70 mins); around 52.5 mins

Bus Service 967
Punggol > Woodlands
Length = 18.34 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 36 mins (at most 72 mins); around 54 mins

Bus Service 968
Woodlands > Boon Lay
Length = 19.9 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 24 mins (at most 48 mins); around 36 mins

Bus Service 968
Boon Lay > Woodlands
Length = 19.13 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 23 mins (at most 46 mins); around 34.5 mins

array88 SG

Likewise, for the section between Choa Chu Kang and Yishun, there are already bus services in the Bukit Panjang town which provide such bus connections.

Nonetheless, based on your recommendations, I have come up with two new bus services: 126 and 127.

It could have been one bus service running between Boon Lay and Punggol, but it would be too long (more than 22.5km) for a trunk bus service. So, I split it into two bus services.

Bus Service 126
> Woodlands
Length = 19.13 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 23 mins (at most 46 mins); around 34.5 mins

Bus Service 127
> Punggol
Length = 18.13 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 35 mins (at most 70 mins); around 52.5 mins

Bus Service 127
> Woodlands
Length = 18.34 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 36 mins (at most 72 mins); around 54 mins

Bus Service 126
> Boon Lay
Length = 19.9 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 24 mins (at most 48 mins); around 36 mins

I suggest that you understand more about my proposed 164 before making such comments.

Firstly, my proposed 164 has nothing to do with Yishun and/or Woodlands. Its pimary purpose is to provide a fast connection between Punggol/Sengkang and towns such as Bukit Panjang, Choa Chu Kang and Boon Lay. No other services provide such connection today. (In fact, 164 can even terminate at Punggol instead of going to Changi Airport)

164 bypasses Woodlands and Yishun by using Mandai Rd and Sembawang Rd. Therefore, there is no need to mention 858 to Woodlands; nor is there a need to create 967 and 968 just to connect to Woodlands only. Moreover, 117 and 118 also serve different purposes compared to 164.

Secondly, although 858 passes by the North-east region, it only calls at one bus stop along TPE and only serves a few flats there directly. Although transfers from there to Sengkang/Punggol are available, they are rather limited and areas such as Sengkang West do not even have a service to TPE bus stop. Therefore, 858 and my proposed 164 (which serves a larger region by passing through Punggol MRT and Sengkang West) basically serve different purposes in this area.

Thirdly, although 171 provides connection between Bukit Panjang and Yishun, it doesn't go all the way to the NE side; on the other hand, my proposed 164 doesn't even serve Yishun at all because that's not its objective.

carbikebus SG

Service 46
Geylang Lorong 1 Terminal - Changi Business Park Terminal
Via
Sims Ave, Sims Ave East, New Upp Changi Rd, Upp Changi Rd East, Somapah Rd, Changi Business Park Central 2, Changi South Ave 1

Return Leg:
Changi South Ave 1, Changi Business Park Central 1, Somapah Rd, Upp Changi Rd East, New Upp Changi Rd, Changi Rd, Geylang Rd

I like the route but better if can start at Sims Place instead.

One-Punch Man SG

Bus Service 152
Eunos - East Coast Park
Length = 12.09 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 28 mins (at most 56 mins); around 42 mins

SBS9252G SG

Bukit Batok - Toa Payoh

SBS6465E SG

I like the route but better if can start at Sims Place instead.

I agree, starting from Sims Pl would be better as you would provide a direct link to Paya Lebar which will see a lot of new developments in the coming years. But to be honest a link up Sims Av/Sims Av East/New Upp Changi Rd & Changi Rd/Geylang Rd to CBP is just too duplicative of current services. Commuters can transfer to 47 at Tanah Merah station. Higher demand between CBP-Tanah Merah can be covered using with a 47M service. And honestly, given how slow traffic can be along the above segments, commuters in Kembangan/Eunos/Paya Lebar/Aljunied will elect to use the MRT. As for Sims Pl, I grant that there are no connections to amentieis in Geylang/Eunos etc. A new service is def in order but going to CBP is just overkill la.

Hi mrbusanalyser, sorry for my comments. Yes, a new Tampines-Rochor Canal service could be implemented but I wouldn't put it as a loop. If possible terminate it at Queen St (not possible I know) or Marina Centre. But that's really my point (sorry for not being clear) that there is just no suitable place to terminate the service mid-way. Little India - Marina Centre would just be too duplicative. Cheers

iveco SG

Preserved the unique two longest route la bro

Did you mean 14 & 51? Splitting them defeats the purpose of why they were even created at all.

14, 51, 61 & 67 all need joint operators as it makes sense putting them under 2 GCM packages (which are likely to be awarded to different contractors).

14: Ulu Pandan, Changi

51: Ulu Pandan?, Kim Chuan

61: Bulim, Kim Chuan?

67: Gali Batu?, Changi

iveco SG

LTI to MCT/Suntec can provide competition to 857. Also 857 may need a layover point but all suitable ones are packed. Perhaps if there is a new bus park at Marina South (for routes originating in the city area) it can terminate there.

shellstation SG

Service 27M
Sengkang - Tampines Int (Loop)

Sengkang Int
Sengkang Sqaure
Compassvale Road
Compassvale Street
Punggol Road
TPE
Tampines Avenue 12 (express)
Tampines Avenue 7
Tampines Central 3
Tampines Int (stop to alight pax only)
Tampines Central 2
Tampines Avenue 4 (Tamp MRT bus stop - loop back)

Full fleet DD, svc 27's fleet can basically cut by half with this route.

BusAnalayzer SG

We don't need this anymore with 118 coming into picture. 118 will have majority DD deployment.

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr shell station, have a standalone number. No need to be an M variant since the starting interchange is different from its parent. Cheers. Thanks.

dupdup77 SG

Bukit Batok - Toa Payoh

Hi mr SBS9252G, sbs 49 service number is already taken up and is serving the west area. Cheers. Thanks.

jurongresident SG

Bus Service 967
Woodlands > Punggol
Length = 18.13 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 35 mins (at most 70 mins); around 52.5 mins

Bus Service 967
Punggol > Woodlands
Length = 18.34 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 36 mins (at most 72 mins); around 54 mins

Bus Service 967 would enhance the intra-town bus connection along Woodlands Avenue 9 and Gambas Avenue. It provides a new bus connection between Woodlands North and Yishun North.

The section between Yishun and Punggol is completely new. The area is relatively under-developed. Nonetheless, this Bus Service provides a direct bus connection between Punggol and Woodlands Avenue 9, where Republic Polytechnic is located. This Bus Service runs along the South-West boundary of the Woodlands Industrial Park. It would benefit Punggol residents who study or work at Woodlands North.

jurongresident SG

Bus Service 968
Woodlands > Boon Lay
Length = 19.9 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 24 mins (at most 48 mins); around 36 mins

Bus Service 968
Boon Lay > Woodlands
Length = 19.13 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 23 mins (at most 46 mins); around 34.5 mins

Bus Service 968 would no doubt enhance the bus connection between Woodlands and Jurong West. It provides a direct bus connection for Jurong West residents who study at the Singapore Sports School or Innova Junior College.

While the connection Bus Service 968 provides between Boon Lay and Woodlands (around 36 minutes) may not be faster than the connection provided by the MRT (around 28 minutes), it provides a bus connection that is around two times faster than Bus Services 178 (around 89 minutes) and 187 (around 76 to 77 minutes).

The only setback is that the catchment area of this bus service is only the two bus interchanges, Jalan Boon Lay, Jalan Bahar and Woodlands Avenue 2. Still, there should be a sustainable amount of demand to operate this bus service.

jurongresident SG

Bus Service 152
Eunos - East Coast Park
Length = 12.09 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 28 mins (at most 56 mins); around 42 mins

I do not think there is a need for a second Bus Service to East Coast Park, especially when you can now take Bus Service 401 from Dakota MRT Station on the Circle Line, besides taking it from Bedok Bus Interchange.

jurongresident SG

Hi. I would like to recommend a new express bus service which runs between Tampines and Jurong.

This express bus service is mainly for the East-siders to get to the schools in Clementi and Dover, and to the Jurong Lake District.

This express bus service is for the West-siders to get to Temasek Polytechnic, and to the MacPherson area.

Everyday, many people travel across the East and West. I am sure this express bus service will be well-received by the people.

Express bus service 510
> Jurong East
Length = 28.32 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 40 mins (at most 80 mins); around 60 mins.

Express bus service 510
> Tampines
Length = 29.66 km
Estimated Travel Time = at least 42 mins (at most 84 mins); around 63 mins.

Express Bus Service 510 would indeed be useful and popular among the people staying in the East, as well as people staying in the West who work at the MacPherson and Tai Seng industrial estates, or study at Temasek Polytechnic.

It takes around 50 minutes to travel on the MRT between Tampines station and Jurong East station. Express Bus Service 510 takes around 60 minutes. To travel on Express Bus Service 510 from Tampines to Jurong East, the fare is $2.55 ($3 if pay cash). If travel on the MRT, the fare is $1.98 ($2.50 if pay by standard ticket). Commuters would have to pay 28.8% more money and spend around 20.0% more time should they use Express Bus Service 510 to travel from Tampines to Jurong East.

Still, it is easier to get a seat on Express Bus Service 510, than on the MRT. There may be people who are willingly to pay more and spend more time for a comfortable ride between Tampines and Jurong East.

It would be better if this bus service is re-routed to Kakit Bukit and extended to Jurong West, as this would increase its catchment area and benefit more people. However, doing so would increase the length of the route to beyond 30 km. Nonetheless, the catchment area of Jurong East and Tampines should be large enough to sustain the operations of this Express Bus Service.

dupdup77 SG

It takes around 50 minutes to travel on the MRT between Tampines station and Jurong East station. Express bus service 510 takes around 60 minutes. To travel on express bus service 510 from Tampines to Jurong East, the fare is $2.55 ($3 if pay cash). If travel on the MRT, the fare is $1.98 ($2.50 if pay by standard ticket). Commuters would have to pay 28.8% more money and spend around 20.0% more time should they use express bus service 510 to travel from Tampines to Jurong East.

Still, it is easier to get a seat on express bus service 510, than on the MRT. There may be people who are willingly to pay more and spend more time for a comfortable ride between Tampines and Jurong East.

Hi mr jurongresident, aren't you one-punch man? Why do you like to talk to yourself and rebut your own points for all to see? Cheers. Thanks.

lemon1974 SG

Hi mr jurongresident, aren't you one-punch man? Why do you like to talk to yourself and rebut your own points for all to see? Cheers. Thanks.

because no one entertain him mah....

BusAnalayzer SG

Hi mr jurongresident, aren't you one-punch man? Why do you like to talk to yourself and rebut your own points for all to see? Cheers. Thanks.

He has 4 user names:

Pervertedboy

Jurongresident

Jurongwestresidents

One-Punch Man

and don't know how many more he will create...

Actually he gives sometimes good input on Jurong west town where he resides, but don't know why he does this. Have tried advising him before, but no use.

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