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11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

BusAnalayzer SG

SBS2835X @ Sv 92 between 1844 & 1930

As sv92 operates on a system like sv36, the bus alr has pax when I took it from Ghim Moh Ter. Realizing most pax alighted @ BNV Stn, I rode till BNV Stn in the end. Some stats are lost unfortunately.

Ghim Moh Rd - 19, 18

North Buona Vista Rd - 3, Skipped

Buona Vista Flyover - 4

South Buona Vista Rd - 14

Science Park Dr - Skipped, Skipped, Skipped, 12, 7, 14, 19, 20

South Buona Vista Rd - 20

Buona Vista Flyover - 20

North Buona Vista Rd - 45, 44

Ghim Moh Rd - 48, 45

Mt Sinai Rd - 40

Mt Sinai Dr - 28, 27

Moonbeam Walk - 24

Ulu Pandan Rd - 21

Pandan Valley - 10

Mt Sinai Rise - 9, 10, Skipped

Mt Sinai Dr - 8

Mt Sinai Rd - 9

Ghim Moh Rd - Skipped, 7

** Surprisingly, the peak loading of 48 pax was only achieved at Ghim Moh Rd, when many ppl are heading twds Mt Sinai Est rather than Science Pk I. I guess the front 92A took the Science Pk I loads, or is it the CCL that changed the travelling patterns of Sci Pk I workers?

** Mt Sinai Est is mainly a private est where the residents are expected to use private tpt, but the peak loading being within this stretch shows that there is some level of demand. Prob sv92 shld extend ops to Sun & PHs for the Mt Sinai Est ppl.

Definitely something to reflect upon. More and more private estate residents are taking buses. I am surprised to rather see the low loading from Science Park. And 25 pax boarding at one stop near One-North?

TIB 585L SG

I realize 183 from 5pm onwards very frequent. 1 bus like 3-5 mins and all DDs with some SDs from my observation from 5-6pm but not crowded leh. All fully seated

sbst191 SG

I realize 183 from 5pm onwards very frequent. 1 bus like 3-5 mins and all DDs with some SDs from my observation from 5-6pm but not crowded leh. All fully seated

183's demand very high. i have seen full to the brim DDs on 183.

carbikebus SG

966 seriously need to reduce its split buses,always bunching along PIE..most ironic 2 buses behind not fully seated as well.Give the extra buses to 187,965 or 980

BusAnalayzer SG

I realize 183 from 5pm onwards very frequent. 1 bus like 3-5 mins and all DDs with some SDs from my observation from 5-6pm but not crowded leh. All fully seated

Which direction? May be not crowded towards Science Park 2, but from Science Park 2 to Jurong heavy crowds. 100+ pax till Clementi, 60-70 pax for dorms along Toh Guan and then 100+ again to Jurong east. That's why the number of DDs went up from 7 to 12. A significant increase right?

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on Sv 119 KUB @07.30 am from Punggol interchange

Punggol interchange -- 10

Punggol Field -- 20, 26

Sengkang East Rd-- 33

Sengkang East Way -- 32 (-10,9), 31 (-5,4), 34, 40

Rivervale -- 47, 52, 61

Sengkang East ave -- 63

Punggol rd -- 62, 54 (-14,6)

Hg ave 8 -- 58

Upper Serangoon rd -- 59, 58, 59, 60, 50 (-16,6 -- Serangoon JC), 49, 35 (-22,8 -- kvn mrt)

Hg st 21 -- 28 (-18,11), 26 (-9,7)

Tampines rd -- 26

Upper Serangoon rd -- 26, 28 (-5,7 -- sgn JC), 28, 28, 29, 26

hg ave 8 -- 28

Punggol rd -- 27, 25

Sengkang east ave -- 28

Rivervale Dr -- 30, 29

Sengkand East Way -- 30, 36, 36, 24 (-19,7 -- SGK MRT) - I alighted here.

** Towards peak direction to Kovan does have 60+ pax around Rivervale area, opposite direction max loading is marginally standing.. Just 36 pax.

** observe good number of pax alighting along HG st 21, showing potential that a bus terminal / interchange there would possibly get good traction as well

** don't been need kub for thus service; can be full fleet Citaro.

carbikebus SG

Although 69 pass by Temasek Poly but the fleets now is justified,no need full DDs..The lowest is see around 17 pax and the highest probably 82(2 trips)

TIB429E SG

240P~ [5 Buses in all, 2/3 Zhongtong Sunny, 2 Isuzu SC Auto Coach]

Took 2 rounds today..

1st Trip @ Lakeside Stn :
Less than 10 boarded the bus.

2nd Trip @ Lakeside Stn(Last bus) :
More than 10 boarded the bus(as 240/246 are stucked in the slight jam)

Overall :
Demand is very LOW, compared to 912P. Did not enter interchange made the svc "not useful" for PM peak. Seems like LTA didn't plan properly...

BusAnalayzer SG

In my opinion, the whole P services is a farce by LTA. LTA just has too much funds to waste. The only service really justifying it is 912P which could have been complemented with a new service via Woodgrove and Avenue 1 to Woodlands MRT and woodlands business park.

All it needed to do is where required add more buses in peak time to 291, 293, 268, 240 rather than paying so much for P services.

240 is managed well with existing fleet

268 needed some dds

222 managed well with existing fleet... What was need of 222P.. Could have just had downroutes for, Bedok MRT am peak.

291/293 - existing fleet manages very well.. Bunching is def a problem for these services, but are we saying the P variants will not bunch with the normal services?

TIB429E SG

All it needed to do is where required add more buses in peak time to 291, 293, 268, 240 rather than paying so much for P services.

240 is managed well with existing fleet

268 needed some dds

222 managed well with existing fleet... What was need of 222P.. Could have just had downroutes for, Bedok MRT am peak.

291/293 - existing fleet manages very well.. Bunching is def a problem for these services, but are we saying the P variants will not bunch with the normal services?

The route 240P ply, isn't really because of lack of buses. It's the frequency of the bus. I overheard that the commuters complain that they are unable to board the bus @ Lakeside station...got 154, 180, 187, 246 to Boon Lay also .__."

Also, I'm not sure if 912P coach face this issue...but the buses I took on 240P have some issue with the location of the bus stop on the monitor..the error kept prompting, and driver got to manual adjust. Compared to proper public buses with strong signal(due to the communication system with interchange I believe)

BusAnalayzer SG

sv 38 @ 7.35am from Bedok

Bedok Interchange -- 23

Bedok South Road -- 24, 22, 23, 28, 35, 58 (peak loading)

Bedok South Ave 3 -- 57

Upper Changi Road East -- 51 (-37,31 - Tanah Merah MRT), 49, 42, 39, 20 (-19,0)

Simei Rd -- 23

Simei St 4 -- 26, 26

Simei St 3 -- 20 (-15,9 - simei MRT)

Simei St 1 -- 22, 19, 20

Simei Rd -- 20

Tampines Ave 2 -- 17

Tampines Ave 7 -- 17, 16, 17, 16 (Tampines Reg Library)

** sv 38 is like another sv 18 which just copies other services

** Frequency is erratic. One bus every 15-18 mins.

** Loading can be very high depending on whether sv 12 has called at Bedok South Rd or not. If sv 12 is ahead, it takes all the load right from Bedok South rd to Tanah Merah and on-going to Expo

** Surprised to see huge number of people alight at Expo even though there is MRT

** Sv 20 seems to be taking the Simei load for Tampines as sv 38 had hardly any people alighting within Simei towards Tampines. # pax remained below 20 pax.

** This would be a good service to terminate at CBP via Expo, Somapah Road in future.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading observation on Sv 165 @ 17.35 B9TL

Clementi Interchange -- 29

Clementi Ave 3 -- 39

Commonwealth ave -- 42

Clementi Rd -- 41

Ullu Pandan rd -- 39, 38, 36, 37

Holland rd -- 50, 52, 50, 49, 49

Farrer rd -- 52, 52, 56, 56, 55

Adam rd -- 52 (-8,5), 49

Lornie rd -- 49, 49, 47, 47, 49

Upper Thomson rd -- 58 (-9/18), 60, 60, 61, 65, 67, 65, 62, 63

AMK Ave 1 -- 59, 58

AMK ave 3 -- 55, 53, 50, 64, 93, 90, 89, 88, 89, 93, 85, 84

HG Ave 2 -- 82

HG Ave 8 -- 69 (-18/5), 65, 54

HG Ave 4 -- 45, 40

HG Central -- 36

** DD loading coming from AMK - HG area. Very low loading between Clementi and Farrer... Guess this loading has been taken away by CCL

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading observation on Sv 63 @ 17.20 from Eunos Interchange

Eunos int -- 40

Sims Ave -- 53

Jalan Eunos -- 64, 68 (-2/6), 65 (-6/3)

Eunos Link -- 71 (-5/11)... Totally packed to door

Ubi Ave 2 -- 69 (-10/8)

Ubi Ave 1 -- 65 (-9/5), 46 (-23/4), 52 (-2/8), 58 (-1/7), 68 (-1/11) already packed to door

Ubi Ave 2 -- 70 (-5/7)

Lor Bengkok -- 62 (-13/5)

Circuit rd -- 59 (-7/4)

Pipit rd -- 55 (-8/4)

Circuit rd -- 52 (-8/5)

Mattar rd -- 51 (-4/3), 49 (-4/2)

Aljunied rd -- 52 (-6/9), 49 (-6/3), 41 (-22/14)

Geylang rd -- 43 (-7/9), 48 (-5/10), 47 (-3/2), 49 (0/2)

Kallang rd -- 51 (0/2)

Crawford St -- 49 (-2/0)

North Bridge Rd -- 48 (-7/6), 46 (-4/2), 58 (-15/27) high loading/unloading, 58 (-4/4), 59 (-4/5), 66 (-6/10 city hall MRT), 69 (-1/5) packed to door but no leftover on stop

South Bridge Rd -- 69 (-5/5) stood quite some time on stop even though few people alighted/boarded

Upp Cross St -- 70 (-5/6) 2 aunties could not board

New Bridge Rd -- 61 (-24/15) high loading/unloading.. Took lot of time here with one 147 and 143 queuing behind. First pax had to alight and then could only board.. Just like crowded dd syndrome, 58 (-6/3)

Outram rd -- 64 (-4/10 Outram MRT)

Tiong Bahru rd -- 60 (-10/6), 62 (-3/5), 59 (-5/2), 63 (-16/20), 65 (-3/5), 60 (-7/2), 56 (-6/2)

Redhill close -- 52 (-6/2) I alighted here with 52 pax on board for last 3-4 bus stops.

** consistent high loading in spite of 2 BSEP add

** good candidate to try DDs. SBST should give it a shot as loading in most part of route 55 pax+ and can exceed 70 pax, higher limit of SD capacity

** travel time can be improved by 4-5 minutes by deploying DDs.

Acx1688 SG

OT:

Also reported in OMB

Last weeks edition of 'Coach and Bus Week' included an article about Dave Roger's latest acquisition, the last ever Leyland Olympian to be built, SBS Transit's SBS 9168S.

Dave is now faced with a bill of almost £3,000 in import duty as according to HM Revenue and Customs the bus does not meet its criteria for being a collectors piece of historic interest. An urgent appeal has been made on the Leyland Society website, just follow the link for further details.

charlize SG

dupdup77 SG

I saw and counted 25 people board sbs 371 at sengkang interchange at 2.48pm today 12 may. Not bad for a short feeder service! Cheers.

SBS7557R SG

Sv157 remains a popular rt on weekends and PHs, there's no reason why BRBP should rpl BR157 DDs w/ SDs on weekends and PHs.

BusAnalayzer SG

All critics of sv 49 should shut up and take the service to know the loading pattern before juding whether sv 49 DDs should be withdrawn, leave alone saying the service is not useful

Observation @ 07.20am Volvo B9TL

Yuan Ching Road -- 05, 15 (0/10), 25 (0/10)

Tah Ching Rd -- 41 (0/16)

Corporation Dr -- 48 (-2/9), 59 (-1/12) peak loading in direction 1

Corporation Rd -- 58 (-5/4)

Lakeside MRT -- 25 (-43/10)

Jurong West st 51 -- 26 (-1/2), 18 (-11/3)

Jurong West Ave 1 -- 11 (-7/0)

Jurong St 42 -- 18 (-4/11), 30 (-3/15), 38 (-2/10), 46 (-2/10)

Jurong St 41 -- 51 (0/5), 57 (-1/7), 61 (-3/7), 69 (0/8) peak loading in direction 2

Jurong St 51 -- 68 (-3/2)

Lakeside MRT -- 26 (-52/10)

Corporation Rd -- 25 (-2/1) .... I alighted here!!

** Take the service and you will understand that there are strong loading patterns. If you observe the bus on Jurong West Ave 1 in AM definitely it will be empty. Depends where you spot the bus.

** Already peak loading in AM is 69 pax. In few more months can go 80+ pax. Hence, DDs should stay though may not be needed as much today.

** My belief is AM peak loading >> PM peak. PM peak many might still alight at Jurong to do shopping/socializing before heading home and still take 334 than 49 (will confirm once I do PM peak observation)

dupdup77 SG

All critics of sv 49 should shut up and take the service to know the loading pattern before juding whether sv 49 DDs should be withdrawn, leave alone saying the service is not useful

Observation @ 07.20am Volvo B9TL

Yuan Ching Road -- 05, 15 (0/10), 25 (0/10)

Tah Ching Rd -- 41 (0/16)

Corporation Dr -- 48 (-2/9), 59 (-1/12) peak loading in direction 1

Corporation Rd -- 58 (-5/4)

Lakeside MRT -- 25 (-43/10)

Jurong West st 51 -- 26 (-1/2), 18 (-11/3)

Jurong West Ave 1 -- 11 (-7/0)

Jurong St 42 -- 18 (-4/11), 30 (-3/15), 38 (-2/10), 46 (-2/10)

Jurong St 41 -- 51 (0/5), 57 (-1/7), 61 (-3/7), 69 (0/8) peak loading in direction 2

Jurong St 51 -- 68 (-3/2)

Lakeside MRT -- 26 (-52/10)

Corporation Rd -- 25 (-2/1) .... I alighted here!!

** Take the service and you will understand that there are strong loading patterns. If you observe the bus on Jurong West Ave 1 in AM definitely it will be empty. Depends where you spot the bus.

** Already peak loading in AM is 69 pax. In few more months can go 80+ pax. Hence, DDs should stay though may not be needed as much today.

Hi mr BusAnalyser, actually one does not have to take the service sbs 49 to know that it is loaded. When a road has so many HDB flats surrounding it and only 2 or 3 bus services plying that road, it will definitely have its required loading. Sbs 49 is one of the few services going to jurong west st 41 and jurong west at 42. Furthermore it provides direct linkage to lakeside mrt station. Definitely it will be loaded. You should not get so agitated over the naysayers! Cheers

BusAnalayzer SG

Maybe you should go to the "enhancement to sv 143" thread and you will see people commenting that sv 49 is useless... DDs on it should be taken away.. it has only load of sv 98 from Lakeside...

All this was rubbish and I knew it because i had taken 49 after one month of its launch and it had good number of pax.. so I went to see myself as I anyway had to go to Boon Lay with work...

I was actually shocked with the loading that it is way higher than what I even expected.. So I am not agitated.. just putting perspective right for people... that apart from just memorizing rego numbers... go and take services and see their loading patterns.. otherwise they just shoot rubbish that does not make sense. Like introduce Napier Terminal and terminate sv 7, 106 there. What the hell...

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