Loading level on buses

last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

BusAnalayzer SG

So meaning freq of 113 is bad lor..if not why they die2 wanna take 45 & 53?Must be something gone terribly wrong with your 113…Fyi a lot of perm 113 BCs goyang goyang even during peak hours thats one of reason why ppl avoid it..

I think from Lor Ah Soo, it does not make a difference if you go to Kovan or Serangoon.

45A/53A/45/53 - so many options to Serangoon while only 113/113A to Kovan.

45A also operates DDs.. and DD gets 40-45 pax in the very first stop on Lor Ah Soo, 20-25 pax on next stop, and 10-15 pax on 3rd stop.

BusAnalayzer SG

113's morning loading now v bad because of 53 and 45 koping the AM load but evening peak still v high. Seen fully seated 113 (with few standees) during AM and 113A sometimes empty. 113A would be removed from AM if loading still dosent improve soon. Ppl along lorong ah soo already forgot they can take 113 to MRT instead of squeezing on 45 and 53 after both of these svcs got tremendous improvements

I dont think 113A will get withdrawn - still have loads from HG Ave 1 to Kovan MRT...

SBS5010P SG

I dont think 113A will get withdrawn - still have loads from HG Ave 1 to Kovan MRT...

I've been on the ground from 6.30am to 7.30am at hougang st 21 bus stop, buses towards upp paya lebar road has more load then the other side towards kovan station, at 7.10 i saw a citaro full to the door towards upp paya lebar road but opp side at most few standees, can say 113's AM loading drop alot alr

carbikebus SG

Runtime need to adjust a bit…when ppl see certain svc BCs dont drive too fast nor too slow they will start taking it..

carbikebus SG

seriously i got no issue with svc 87,its running very fine.Bus freq is reliable..SBST know their business.

SBS5010P SG

Runtime need to adjust a bit…when ppl see certain svc BCs dont drive too fast nor too slow they will start taking it..

Seen a perm indian 113 BC flooring at 60km/h throughout whole route.

Problem with 113 now is AM the freq is unreliable lesser ppl wan to take it as they are rushing to work, evening peak no change, demand still v high.

SBS5010P SG

seriously i got no issue with svc 87,its running very fine.Bus freq is reliable..SBST know their business.

Another reliable svc is 25.. 5 mins can come 3 buses

87 easy to control cause most of its route traffic not very heavy + route's quite short and straight.

carbikebus SG

Yes there are the cashcow service of SBST..For a short route svc 25 definately got plenty of fleet..Another is 168…10 mins can see almost 4 buses back to back.170 also very reliable for crossborder unlike 160 & 950.

SBS5010P SG

113A is quite unreliable even IRIS cannot predict it's timings. BCs love to play punk on this SWT.

SBS5010P SG

I think from Lor Ah Soo, it does not make a difference if you go to Kovan or Serangoon.

45A/53A/45/53 - so many options to Serangoon while only 113/113A to Kovan.

45A also operates DDs.. and DD gets 40-45 pax in the very first stop on Lor Ah Soo, 20-25 pax on next stop, and 10-15 pax on 3rd stop.

It does make a diff, ppl going towards places that only can be reached by circle line such as one-north they will prefer serangoon and meanwhile ppl like the luxury of sitting on a DD to the mrt station. I have tried 45A DD and ppl will move up as the BC will wait for them to alight before driving off so they can slowly alight... not all moved up.. when lower deck was full BC had to politely ask the pax to go upstairs.. Lorong Ah Soo is not a small town if SBST can improve 113's freq and do some things to attract ppl to take 113, i dun think they would need to waste so much resources on 45 and 53 for such a small stretch of their route. Problem is they failed to balance both sides, they instead made the ppl of lorong ah soo to commute to serangoon and reduced the demand of ppl going to kovan alr.. Not like last time when 113 had to rely on S-shift buses for AM peak

BusAnalayzer SG

I think Lor ah Soo people are pretty happy with 45/53.. Both services have got significant enhancement... PM peak now from opp NEX stop, you see Sv 53B leaving with 25-30 pax... AM peak also load well managed bet 53/53A/45/45A..

Also to go to CCL, people also take 62 and get down at Tai Seng... When from one stop so many options, people not really need to go to 113 stop.

SBS5010P SG

yep. But 113's evening peak's demand is still heavy

BusAnalayzer SG

I will be doing lot of loading observation in coming week as I have holiday and family is away. I will observe Sv 372, WRI, JE, Boon Lay, Clementi, NEL area, Tampines, Bedok.

carbikebus SG

Ok good,Can monitor the loading pattern of
61,67,700,803,852,922,981?

BusAnalayzer SG

Sv 972 ADL timings at Dhoby Ghaut (Orchard road)

16.32 (ADL 3503), 16.43 (MAN), 16.56 (ADL 3501), 17.04 (MAN), 17.18 (ADL 5002)

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on 5002 @ 17.20 from Dhoby Ghaut

Dhoby Ghaut -- 20 (14 boarded, 6 already on bus)

Bencoolen st -- 23 (0,3)

Stamford St -- 31 (0/8)

Dhoby a ghaut MRT -- 44 (0/13)

Somerset rd -- 48 (0/4), 54 (-2/8)

Orchard link -- 58 (-2/6), 63 (0/5)

Scott's rd -- 69 (-4/10)

Stevens rd -- 67 (-2/0), 67 (0/0), 67 (-1/1), 65 (-2/0)

Whitley rd -- 68 (-6/9)

Bukit Panjang rd -- 60 (-14/6) I alighted here.

* most pax long distance for BPJ ring road

* saw While at BPJ ring road, crossing over to 187 that 3503 already makes it return trip to Orchard. Spotted just before entering PIE @ 18.10 hours. This means all 3 buses go to do 19+ hours peak trip again from Orchard to BPJ.

* the bus I took was not the hottest peak hour! yet had close to 70 pax, 90% long distance travelers! affirming the need for more DDs on 972.

BusAnalayzer SG

Jurong East Interchange loading analysis on 143/143M, 51, 79 @18.34 to 19.15

After a successful joyriding experience on 972, I took 187 from BPJ road to Jurong central and changed to 98 to go to interchange.

Sv 51

18.34 - 7359R - 56p

18.51 - 9478Y - 63p

19.00 - 7385U - 17p

19.16 - CDGE - 49p

* frequency around 15 mins. All back to back DDs. I would say if Sv 51 leaves interchange with 50+ pax easily it will get 20 more pax at Jurong st 13 and Jurong central stops. Seemed like these were dedicated Pandan residents given there was a 143/143M every 04-05 mins.

BusAnalayzer SG

Sv 79

18.37 - 7729L - 16p

18.57 - 3381G - 23p

19.11 - 8190H - 14p

* Disastrous loading from JE during PM peak. Guess since 143/143M stop is different from 79 and now 143/143M is more frequent, there are not many takers for 79 from JE in PM. Am of course there will be huge crowds towards Penjuru and Jurong Port.

BusAnalayzer SG

Sv 143/143M

18.33 - CDGE - unknown as I saw the bus departing with healthy number of pax

18.40 - 6444P - 41p (143M)

18.47 - 7361 - 79p

18.53 - 3387R - 21p (143M)

18.59 - 3016L - 30p

19.08 - 6443S - 46p (143M)

19.12 - CDGE - 14p

19.14 - 3388Y - 09p (143M)

* bus every 05-07 mins with average loading of 30-35 pax leaving interchange

* Teban sector seems too spoiled with too many BSEP buses and high frequency, where during PM peak many buses going with less than 20-25 pax loading.

* with introduction of 143M, Sv 79 now going virtually empty with DDs having less than 20 pax while leaving interchange. 3 months back around same time, Sv 79 would leave interchange with 40-45 pax and Sv 144 with a range of 60-80 pax.

BusAnalayzer SG

Sv 334

18.41 - 3180U - 104p (queue with 40+ pax left over)

18.49 - 3175K - 110p (queue still has 25+ pax)

18.53 - 3286Z - 96p (around 12 pax in queue, who I think waited for seat)

19.01 - 3295Y - 97p (6-7 pax in queue)

19.10 - 3147S - 112p (still 10-15p in queue)

* 334 loading continue to be super high. Observed 5 back to back DDs with 100+ pax loading just leaving interchange. This means people along Jurong Central stop must be finding difficult to board on some buses.

* frequency during observed duration seemed around 07-09 mins.

* Didn't spot the KUB on 334 - looks like time has come for 334 to become full fleet dd.

* 334 needs a BSEP WEG add. Maybe one of the buses from 143M can be transferred.

* Even after introduction of Sv 49, loads continue to be supremely high. Shows that if Sv 49 was not there, situation would not be manageable anymore.

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