Loading level on buses

last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

dupdup77 SG

Bro.. You might be right... But my loading observation does show strong loading in AM peak. Maybe that's why you have 2 AM DDs crossover from Sv 22 coz only during those few trips, loading can be huge and then it goes flat.

if you get time, pls do survey on 136 bet 7-730 am from Punggol coz even I was shocked seeing the loading. I did not expect some ppl will not be able to board a 136 bus.

there could be few factors:

1. Huge time gap bet bus ahead and this one

2. 62 and 119 have not called the stops, hence all load from Sengkang East Way, Fernvale, Upper Serangoon board 136

Hi mr busanalyser, nothing very strange. Not only sbs 136. Heavy loading for sbs 3 from 6.40am all the way up to 8.10am on weekdays morning. Many people cannot board too. Have to squeeze into all the single deck sbs 3. Need 2 DDs for sbs 3 during this timing. Only when sbs 3 reach UMC bus stop after TPE, then the crowd subsides. When will they finally put DDs on sbs 3 in this timing??? Btw, the word fernvale in last statement should be Rivervale. Cheers!

BusAnalayzer SG

I agree with you. After higher occupancy in PGL now.. Sbs 3 is also getting over crowded and they should experiment 2 DDs on its route. Just thinking - would there be turning restriction near Pasir Ris st 21.

ButIAmAToilet SG

Tamp direction should not be an issue. Pasir Ris St 21 might be possible with slow driving. The Tamp St 21 junction near Pasir Ris Sec might be an issue though.

carbikebus SG

Tampines is not an issue cause i ever saw SBST ever test a DD from the school(Opp blk 241/240) there..Pasir Ris narrow roads is the cause hence you see why 358/359 nvr get DDs

dupdup77 SG

Tampines is not an issue cause i ever saw SBST ever test a DD from the school(Opp blk 241/240) there..Pasir Ris narrow roads is the cause hence you see why 358/359 nvr get DDs

Hi mr carbikebus, so is it pasir ris at 21 or tampines st 21 issue? Cheers.

carbikebus SG

More on Pasir Ris..Tampines no issue..ever saw Trailer use the routes also.Probably 3M Tampines to Pasir Ris Int(Loop)?

Off topic:My Indian national friend wanna debate whether Tampines should be call Tam-Pee-Nis or Tamp-Pines(Pine tree)..and whether its Panggol or Pung-Gol

BusAnalayzer SG

Hi mr carbikebus, so is it pasir ris at 21 or tampines st 21 issue? Cheers.

Yes it is Pasir Ris st 21 where the issue could be for sv 3.

Though they can start 3M between Pasir Ris Interchange and Punggol Interchange with DDs. Anyway M is the new fancy of LTA after trying stupid P routes.

BusAnalayzer SG

I have to say I do prefer the M variants to the P anyday!!!

carbikebus SG

So 3M Tampines to PSR skipping PSR St 21?Bsep with 4 DDs and 2 Citaros?Lol

dupdup77 SG

So 3M Tampines to PSR skipping PSR St 21?Bsep with 4 DDs and 2 Citaros?Lol

Hi mr carbikebus, i am afraid current sbs 3 can handle tampines to pasir ris well. It is 3M for punggol to pasir ris int and also pasir ris int to punggol. And please take out 3A, 3B when 3M is implemented. Cheers.

BusAnalayzer SG

So 3M Tampines to PSR skipping PSR St 21?Bsep with 4 DDs and 2 Citaros?Lol

The route I have proposed is 3M from Pasir Ris Interchange to Punggol.

BusAnalayzer SG

Maybe only need a SWT from Pasir Ris Interchange during PM peak between 17.45 and 19.30 hours to terminate at Pasir Ris Dr 1 for residents along Pasir Ris St 21 who have only sv 3 to get home from MRT. 1-2 buses can crossover from sv 3 during this time slot as capacity will be enhanced with 3M between Pasir Ris and Punggol anyway.

SBS3004X SG

Depots:

Buses:

SBS970B SBS1925B SBS1971S SBS2645C
5 Volvo B10M Mark IV (2 DM / 3 Strider)

SBS6387X
1 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 BSEP Batch 2)

SBS8220E SBS8570U SBS8571S SBS8572P SBS8573L SBS8575G SBS8576D SBS8579X SBS8593D SBS8601P SBS8631C SBS8632A SBS8633Y SBS8668Y
14 Scania K230UB (1 Batch 2 Euro IV / 13 Batch 1 Euro V)

SBS6469T SBS6473E
2 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (2 BSEP Batch 2)

SBS5232R SBS8620J
2 Scania K230UB (1 Batch 1 Euro V / 1 Batch 2 Euro V)

SBS3004X SG

Buses:
SBS3147S SBS3149L SBS3175K SBS3180U SBS3283G SBS3286Z SBS3295Y SBS3296U SBS3309S SBS3830C
8 Volvo B9TL (4 WEG2 Batch 2B / 1 WEG2 BSEP Batch 2 / 5 WEG2 Batch 3)

Notes:

carbikebus SG

With the opening of Loyang depot svc 3 doesnt need dual depot..

ButIAmAToilet SG

359 use LOs before. Retain 3A, remove 3B if you add 3M. 3A is like one of my favourite midnight bus svc ever (no bias meant)

BusAnalayzer SG

Tampines is not an issue cause i ever saw SBST ever test a DD from the school(Opp blk 241/240) there..Pasir Ris narrow roads is the cause hence you see why 358/359 nvr get DDs

No bro - its not the same reason for 359.

359 plies larger roads.. there is no problem for DDs..

The reason there are no DDs on 359 is that on the west leg you have sv 88/58 covering all the stops.. People have 88/58 at good frequency as well and will take whichever bus comes first.. 359 does not hence have DD worthy loading in west leg.

For east leg, again people from Dr 1 wil not take it coz it will take more time to reach MRT. People from inner streets mostly opt for 359 - hence again loading is high but only for certain times, and hence 359P is introduced here.

358 - It has same reasoning as 359 for west loop. Also shares loading w/ 403 on Elias. No DD worthy loading. East loop, it has very few stops that do not amount to DD worthy loading.

Unlike 291, where it is the only service connecting 90% of its route, 358/359 is opposite. Hence, no DDs.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 162 - KUB @ 17.47 from Stamford st

Already on bus -- 40

Stamford St -- 42 (-3/5), 47 (-2/7), 48 (-3/4)

Penang Rd -- 45 (-10/7), 48 (-1/4)

Somerset Rd -- 53 (-2/7)

Orchard Link -- 53 (-4/4), 57 (-5/9)

Scotts Rd -- 60 (-6/8), 60 (0/0), 61 (-4/5)

Newton Rd -- 58 (-5/2), 54 (-7/3)

Thomson Rd -- 57 (-6/9), 56 (-3/2), 55 (-4/3), 54 (-1/0), 56 (0/2), 61 (0/5), 66 (-1/6), 65 (-4/3)

Macritchie -- 69 (-7/11)

Upper Thomson -- 71 (-2/4)* bus is full... , 68 (-7/4), 63 (-9/4), 60 (-7/4), 57 (-6/3)

Sing Ming Ave -- 60 (-1/4), 57 (-7/4), 53 (-8/4), 56 (-1/4), 55 (-3/2)

Bishan St 22 -- 48 (-12/5), 38 (-19/9), 31 (-9/2) * around 40/55 pax alighted along Bishan st 22, 15 pax going beyond...

Bishan Rd -- 30 (-3/2), 30 (0/0)

AMK Ave 8 -- 28 (-4/2), 25 (-6/3), 21 (-6/2)

AMK Ave 3 -- 19 (-8/6)

AMK Ave 6 -- 20 (-2/3), 18 (-4/2), 13 (-5/0), 4 (-9/0) * I alighted at Anderson college

* As you can see, loading gets high on Upper Thomson (common for many services) - especially for this one connecting Bishan St 22 to Upper thomson.

* Want to reiterate that main loading comes from Bishan St 22 / Sing Ming residents wanting to go to Upper Thomson (also have 52/410) but further to Thomson/Netwon/Orchard

* At one stop loading went 70+ pax, but I dont think anyone was left behind

* SBST can experiment with adding 1-2 DD slots for sv 162 during AM/PM peak on S-Shift

carbikebus SG

Wah Champion leh u..
By the way i did saw a few buses at early morning with few pax inside but frequency damm horrible..dunno what happen.

SBS3004X SG

Wah Champion leh u..
By the way i did saw a few buses at early morning with few pax inside but frequency damm horrible..dunno what happen.

Maybe people took alternative services because of the poor frequency?

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