Loading level on buses

last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

phillipC SG

Anyway, I also notice some interesting stuff while waiting.

Pax seems to like taking 972 from Plaza Sing stop. I do not know why currently.

#endofrant

Very simple reason bro. Got seat at PS bus stop. If u take at penang road bus stop, prob got to stand 1hrs to bt panjang with the man a22 buses.

Sggs 2004 SG

We need more buses

BusAnalayzer SG

Very simple reason bro. Got seat at PS bus stop. If u take at penang road bus stop, prob got to stand 1hrs to bt panjang with the man a22 buses.

Haha.. No la... Bus not full at Penang road.. Only advantage is you can choose ur seat and do not need to cross road... MAN will have standees only at Somerset MRT and will be packed to door at Scotts.

phillipC SG

bro i beg to differ on your statement especially during evening peak hours from 6pm to 8pm. All the seats are chopped by the people who boarded at PS bus stop. Very hardly you will find any seat even at the YMCA bus stop with the MAN Lion buses. That's why you see a lot of smart people choose to board at PS Bus stop for Sv972.

carbikebus SG

SMRT should have 25 DDs and 16 bendies for 190,If A95 order is confirmed then all DDs

10 DDs and 4 SDs for 972

10 DDs and 8 SDs for 700

BusAnalayzer SG

SMRT should have 25 DDs and 16 bendies for 190,If A95 order is confirmed then all DDs

10 DDs and 4 SDs for 972

10 DDs and 8 SDs for 700

Sv 700 don't need so many DDs... 6 DDs, 12 SDs is good enough. Agree with other two.

carbikebus SG

700 can provide alternative for those going Orchard

BusAnalayzer SG

700 can provide alternative for those going Orchard

But now days 700 has become more of service for Petir residents as BPJ ring residents use 972 (who would earlier use LRT/920/922 and change to 700). BPJ road have option bet 190 and 700. Seen 700 loading suffer... Not as high as used to be.

carbikebus SG

As far as i know 700 loadings has not decreased,if loading is poor explain why get 19 buses from 15 in a year time?Still got 2-3 DDs somemore leh..Dun anyhow assume la bro,My uncle drive 700 leh bro..where got loading decrease?

23ispolo SG

Which also explains why bendies are also still seen... I think someone has to seriously look at how 700's loading are right now and find out where the passengers come from.

phillipC SG

The load prob come from bt panjang road blk 604 bus stop, where commuters got the choice of 190 and 700 headings to orchard. If 700 go back to the new interchange, think 190 will suffer again, 700 load may drop. May drop, dont shoot me.

On the other hand, not many will choose 972 at that bus stop cos merry go around in bt panjang b4 heading BKE N PIE. Save money n time, only ppl living inside will take 972. Interesting to see ppl running up n down that bus stops (opp blk 183 and bus stop at blk 604) catching 922 n 972 due to LTA solid planning.

BusAnalayzer SG

Not assuming. It's real observation. Have seen even SDs during peak hours easily managing loads... This wasn't the case a year back.. Also 700 had 15 buses 2.5 years back.. Since then it got BSEP/non-BSEP fleet add. You need to also consider back then 972 didn't have DDs, was a new service. 190 fleet also didn't have DDs. Situation has improved a lot and I think where it is relevant, we need to applaud LTA for good efforts on this sector.

carbikebus SG

Imho 190 & 972 cannot relieve all the BPJ pax towards Orchard..Observe and driving the bus itself is a different thing...How long do you observe?4 hrs?4 days?4 weeks?

700 come handy when 190 & 972 in front packed to the max,even 700 bendy also full seated plus standees..

190 need full 42 DDs,972 is best with all DDs too..700 40% DDs will do

BusAnalayzer SG

Imho 190 & 972 cannot relieve all the BPJ pax towards Orchard..Observe and driving the bus itself is a different thing...How long do you observe?4 hrs?4 days?4 weeks?

700 come handy when 190 & 972 in front packed to the max,even 700 bendy also full seated plus standees..

190 need full 42 DDs,972 is best with all DDs too..700 40% DDs will do

Ok bro.

xaxaxaxaxa SG

Pax seems to like taking 972 from Plaza Sing stop. I do not know why currently.

#endofrant

One reason would be that most people realize it is the last stop before 972 loops around to head back to BPJ and that it'll be empty as everyone heading towards town from BPJ would've probably alighted which means there will be so many empty seats available if you board from plaza sing.

BusAnalayzer SG

Few services where SMRT has blundered big time.

=> 187 (only 4 high capacity buses when fleet should have had maximum bendy/high capacity fleet given it has consistent high loading. Sector between Jurong East Ave 1 and Lakeside, everyday lose pax to sv 98...)

=> 851 (number of bendies reduced to big extent... when actually should have been majority bendy fleet as well... has lost pax to other services)

=> 854 (another big blunder... sv 25 consistenly comes as DDs with one off SDs.. and 854 has kept on losing bendies... and more and more SDs are coming... irritating ppl with spamming overflowing SDs)

=> 985 (another service... where there should have been at least 5-6 bendies or DDs... yet not a single high capacity bus... buses are packed.. and I am sure more pax would have taken bus if it were high capacity)

=> 969 (needs so many more DDs... consistent high loading yet you see SDs during peak hours... that make you go WTH)

carbikebus SG

Few services where SMRT has blundered big time.

=> 851 (number of bendies reduced to big extent... when actually should have been majority bendy fleet as well... has lost pax to other services)

=> 969 (needs so many more DDs... consistent high loading yet you see SDs during peak hours... that make you go WTH)

Need bigger depot that the main reason,985 got to do with the low lying branches at Lor 1

SBS3688Y SG

Few services where SMRT has blundered big time.

=> 851 (number of bendies reduced to big extent... when actually should have been majority bendy fleet as well... has lost pax to other services)

=> 969 (needs so many more DDs... consistent high loading yet you see SDs during peak hours... that make you go WTH)

yes. clearly, many of us here agree that even if all the 201 ADL are deployed, there is still not enough ADDs. so best is SMRT should quickly order production batches of the A95. in this way, 2 different manufacturers release new buses in batches would help double-up the time to intro more ADDs on the roads.

carbikebus SG

Agreed,Will be worsen if SMRT win the first tender package,41,49,78,79,96,97,98,143,183,285,334...They need at least another 300 more if these service is won.

BusAnalayzer SG

Agreed,Will be worsen if SMRT win the first tender package,41,49,78,79,96,97,98,143,183,285,334...They need at least another 300 more if these service is won.

Just to your point, I feel it is impossible for SMRT to win the tender given services lik 78, 79, 143, 183, 285, 334 just cannot survive without DDs and if you total these DDs + the other BBT services under package, SMRT will fall short big time.

If it has to remain competitive, it needs to place an order soon.

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