Loading level on buses

last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

BusAnalayzer SG

Should observe during weekdays evening from Sengkang Interchange. Packed the door.

sv 83 is operating at around 10-12 mins frequency. If the bus is late to loop @ Sengkang possible to have higher loading bcoz still many people in Punggol area depend on Compass Point and amenities around Sengkang MRT / Kopitiam to get things done. But overall loading has dropped IMO b/w Sengkang and Punggol town.

BusAnalayzer SG

Observation of services at Whitley towards PIE (Toa Payoh direction) from 18.00 - 19.00 hours

105 - spotted 3 SDs all had some standees (around 45-50 pax on board)

132 - spotted 4 DDs (2 of which had may be 70-80 pax, one was in the range of 50-60 pax and 4th one that came at 2 minute interval from previous one had around 15-20 pax on board)

151 - spotted 3 SDs all with few standees (around 40 pax on board)

153 - buses were quite packed and had many people who alighted at Whitley to transfer to 190/972 (2 DDs seemed to have around 70/80 pax and SD had around 50/60 pax as per my observation)

154 - mostly SDs came (opp direction were DDs).. most had standing but manageable is what I would say (range of 50-55 pax)

156 - only two bus came in 1 hour observaton duration and that too had no standees (around 30 pax on board)

186 - spotted 1 DD and 2 SDs... all 3 buses must have had around 20 pax on board

** Overall, all buses leading to Toa Payoh direction had modest loading and no issues with loading. 153 to me was surprising that it seemed to have the highest loading among all services that called during that time followed with 132 and 154.

BusAnalayzer SG

Observation of services at Whitley towards PIE (BPJ direction) from 18.00 - 19.00 hours

190 - buses came at an interval of 03-05 minutes (16 buses) with many DDs bunching as well. In the duration I observed, no SD came but I saw 4 SDs in the opposite direction towards NBR. I would say at least 2 DDs were packed to door, where as all others could be in the range of 80-100 pax. 1 bendy that came during the period also was packed to door but had DD right behind that took the pax. So overall 190 is doing great with a high frequency and people are able to board well now. Take note that apart from the frequency, there was not one bus that left Whitley stop without standees.

700 - spotted 3 SDs in the duration of 1 hour compared to around 16 buses on sv 190. Surprisingly, the buses came to Whitley stop with maybe 40-50 pax on board only. So SDs managed the loading very well. Definitely 972 has tanked its loading. So it is mainly the Petir road residents who take 700 these days. Absolutely manageable with SDs

960 - spotted only 5 buses in 1 hour duration... that to me seemed very less.. also to note, not even 1 of them was a DD... the 5 buses were 3 bendies and 2 SDs... and all 5 of them had standees but none of them were packed to door. Most buses in opposite direction were DDs towards Marina Center.. I was confused. So are the DDs deployed for Woodlands Road industrial estate towards BPJ to cater to the high loading there? Or maybe it is just the hour I observed didn't have DDs towards WRI... maybe has before 6pm and after 7pm. Also frequency seemed lower than expected but overall no complain because buses were not overly packed. I think also to do with 190/972 alternatives

972 - spotted around 11 DDs... buses came at frequency of 02-07 mins... Every time the Steven road signal turned green... either a 972 came or 190 or both... 972 loading is lesser than 190 as expected but has on average 60 pax loading.. Most buses were around the range of 55-60 pax loading, there were few that came in after 07 mins that were packed but none packed-to-door. Clearly when you stand at Whitley, you notice that even if 190 or 700 calls, passengers wait for 972 as direct option. Didn't see that with 700 and 960.

** Overall such a huge improvement to BPJ services. I just can't imagine how the loading was managed before DDs came on 190 and 972... Well done on this sector to manage the loading :)

Path Light SG

SBS3028C more than 58 passengers in the lower deck

proudtobeme SG

Observation of services at Whitley towards PIE (BPJ direction) from 18.00 - 19.00 hours

** Overall such a huge improvement to BPJ services. I just can't imagine how the loading was managed before DDs came on 190 and 972... Well done on this sector to manage the loading :)

u wait one hour. i nev go to whitley so good happy to read.

proudtobeme SG

busanal- so no missing bus on 190 . video person happy? post happy video shud now.

array88 SG

The following was done YESTERDAY (Friday, 25 Sept 2015).

BusAnalayzer SG

@array88 - appreciate if you could post different route loading as separate posts, easier to reply.

- the time you observed before peak hours is hard to judge whether bus needs high capacity or not as most services during this time have very low loading.

- 113 loading is typically this way even during peak hours, where the sector from Kovan to Hougang will not see more than 20 pax. It is also the reason why 113 operates with such poor frequency, especially when 113A operates, frequency b.w Kovan and Hougang is bet 20-25 mins per bus

- The HDB block at Upper Serangoon Crescent is huge apparently. There is also a new one on Upper Serangoon road, equally big just opened up. This will see 102 loading rise in future. 102 too early to do loading check. Maybe 1 month is a good time. also the service was only introduced to public 5 days before launch

- Natural to have higher loading on 806 to 103... you have 4 806 bendies that will come before one 103

BusAnalayzer SG

On 171 - def Yishun to Shenton does not need DDs during peak. Opp direction, 2 DDs is fine if timed correctly. Moreover 171 needs DDs more for AM peak than PM peak.

169 - It is doing very well with DDs even with my observation. TIB429E though keeps complaining about DDs being misfit on 169, which really is not the case.

carbikebus SG

On 171 - def Yishun to Shenton does not need DDs during peak. Opp direction, 2 DDs is fine if timed correctly. Moreover 171 needs DDs more for AM peak than PM peak.

169 - It is doing very well with DDs even with my observation. TIB429E though keeps complaining about DDs being misfit on 169, which really is not the case.

I didnt know that 171 goes to Shenton Way

array88 SG

Found an interesting article about how the authorities analyse data from Ez-Link records to calculate the loading patterns of bus services. Service 2 is used as an example here, showing its loading patterns on weekdays and weekends, and for different time periods.

http://beta.data.gov.sg/blog/fingerprint-of-a-bus-route

array88 SG

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array88 SG

P.S. Ridership for buses is still higher than MRT (at least until 2012), unlike what many people have said.

http://beta.data.gov.sg/dataset/public-transport-utilisation-average-public-transport-ridership

BusAnalayzer SG

http://beta.data.gov.sg/blog/fingerprint-of-a-bus-route

This is really interesting. Ty for sharing. Wish we could go there and see the loading of every service. They also need to represent it a bit more simple way. It's a tad too complicated.

BusAnalayzer SG

Real time loading on sv 324 @ 07,30am

HG Interchange -- 05

Upper Serangoon Rd -- 04 (-1/0), 02 (-2/0)

Upper Serangoon Crescent -- 23 (-2/23)

Upper Serangoon View -- 24 (0/1)

Upper Serangoon Rd -- 26 (-2/4), 26 (-2/2)

** Next bus that arrived after 08 mins had 23 pax on board.

** 102 and 324 could have been merged to save some resources (a bit too much to have a dedicated service just for one stop along Crescent, the one along view is not utilized much because the construction readiness is still years away)

** Stop on Upper Serangoon Rd (where 62,102,136 ply) had around 20-25 pax waiting as well

** sv 62 spotted turning at HG Ave 8 when I was traveling towards Upp Serangoon Crescent had around 10 standees on board (WEG).

BusAnalayzer SG

Real time loading on sv 386 @ 07.50am from PGL Interchange

Punggol Interchange -- 03

Punggol Central -- 03 (0/0), 01 (-2/0)

Edgefield Plains -- 01 (0/0), 07 (-1/7)

Punggol Dr -- 07 (0/0)

Edgedale Plains -- 08 (-1/2), 07 (-1/0)

Punggol Field -- 02 (-7/2)

Punggol East -- 04 (0/2)

Punggol Central -- 06 (0/2)

Edgedale Plains -- 07 (-1/2)

Punggol Dr -- 04 (-3/0)

Edgefield Plains -- 28 (-1/25), 31 (0/3)

Punggol Central -- 36 (-2/7), 34 (-2/0)

* There are pax who board bus at Edgedale Plains, but the overall number is below 10 pax bet Punggol Int and back to Edgefield Waterway HDB

* The original route was fine. The extension is such a massive waste of resource. At such AM prime peak time, bus fares with only 02-07 pax.

* Bus ahead = 08 mins, bus behind = 07 mins. Frequency seems very good as well.

* All buses spotted in opposite direction had only 4-5 pax in bus

* Has anyone else observed 386 and its poor loading (mind you: the loading between Punggol Int and Edgefield Plains is fine and needed. The extension I am talking about).

array88 SG

Guess we will see higher loading on 386 (extended route) on weekends when more people will go shopping...

BusAnalayzer SG

Guess we will see higher loading on 386 (extended route) on weekends when more people will go shopping...

Not sure. maybe you should check and let us know the loading if you happen to go on weekend. Weekend is family time for me, so I never travel by bus on weekends or do joyriding.

dupdup77 SG

Real time loading on sv 386 @ 07.50am from PGL Interchange

Punggol Interchange -- 03

Punggol Central -- 03 (0/0), 01 (-2/0)

Edgefield Plains -- 01 (0/0), 07 (-1/7)

Punggol Dr -- 07 (0/0)

Edgedale Plains -- 08 (-1/2), 07 (-1/0)

Punggol Field -- 02 (-7/2)

Punggol East -- 04 (0/2)

Punggol Central -- 06 (0/2)

Edgedale Plains -- 07 (-1/2)

Punggol Dr -- 04 (-3/0)

Edgefield Plains -- 28 (-1/25), 31 (0/3)

Punggol Central -- 36 (-2/7), 34 (-2/0)

* There are pax who board bus at Edgedale Plains, but the overall number is below 10 pax bet Punggol Int and back to Edgefield Waterway HDB

* The original route was fine. The extension is such a massive waste of resource. At such AM prime peak time, bus fares with only 02-07 pax.

* Bus ahead = 08 mins, bus behind = 07 mins. Frequency seems very good as well.

* All buses spotted in opposite direction had only 4-5 pax in bus

* Has anyone else observed 386 and its poor loading (mind you: the loading between Punggol Int and Edgefield Plains is fine and needed. The extension I am talking about).

Hi mr busanalyser, it is not only loading that counts for a bus service especially BSEP. Sometimes extension is done to facilitate many other reasons and direct connection. I saw many children boarding sbs 386 at bus stop outside Blk 162B Punggol central taking 1 bus stop to horizon primary school at 7 to 7.30am every weekday. Sometimes I saw crowds of 10 taking sbs 386 at edgefield plains to Punggol plaza bus stop. At times, I saw 2 adults taking few bags of groceries boarding sbs 386 at plaza stop and alighting at Punggol drive oasis bus stop. I also saw some working class adults boarding bus at Horizon primary school bus stop towards mrt in the morning. It is perceived as more convenient as the stop is just outside the flats. Take note that not all will want to walk to oasis LRT or kadaloor LRT as their flats are in middle. Yes the loading for the extension is not much. But it does serve the purpose well for this extension. Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

I do know that there are few people who do use the service. I also spotted some 7 people board at Edgefield Plains to get down at Punggol Plaza. But to be honest the rational for extension of 386 IMO is different.

If having door step stop is what it is then the end flats on Edgefield and Edgedale plains should have had a service long back, as the walk to LRT is quite far.

LTA had promised a new service in Punggol. There was a strong rumor of a Punggol / Tampines service back then. Somehow the plans fell through maybe bcoz of limited slots at Tampines Int. As a quick fix, IMO 386 was extended. I feel 386 route might get amended at a later date to serve Waterway flats at Edgedale plains end when they will be ready in Q2 2016. Once that happens 386 loading will sore.

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