Loading level on buses

last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

array88 SG

... sometimes 859 rigid comes before 856 bendy and gets packed to door. remaining people take the 856 that is right behind. still 859 does not justify a bendy or DD unless they make some changes to 859 route first such as extension to loop at ring road.

I have often seen 859 packed to the door at Yishun Ave 5... Anyway don't think 859 will be rerouted between Yishun and Sembawang, for connection between Sembawang Town and amenities along Sembawang Rd and Yishun Ave 5.

BusAnalayzer SG

Saying 859 route should be extended to Ring road, not changed b/w Yishun and Sembawang.

carbikebus SG

Saying 859 route should be extended to Ring road, not changed b/w Yishun and Sembawang.

Agreed,Should extend 859 to serve Ring Rd passing by outside Yishun Int.With the extension can deploy a few DDs.860 should extend to Sembawang Rd also.

Path Light SG

Cannot agree more. If 161/168 can have full fleet DD... 969 surely can. I hope it happens within the next 1 year.

Both 161 and 168 already have DDs while 99 is a mix of SD and DD

SMB128B SG

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proudtobeme SG

service 20 wednesday 7,40am tamp int citaro

tamp int (19), tamp av 5 (31, 38), tamp av 2 (42, 40, 47), simei rd (54), simei st 1 (55, 58, 58), simei st 3 (68? bus full some 20-30 peop not able board), simei st 4 (68 ? bus no stop. have 6 peop on stop wave for bus, 70 ? 2 peop get down so bus stop. 4 peop board but 3 no able to), simei rd (64 ? bc no open front door thou 6 peop get off bus).

in 2 min next 20 citaro come and 10 peop board bus. bus pack to door also.

i also take bus in pm to see load but ok for citaro in pm. opp side full again.

service 20 wednesday 5,40pm tamp int citaro

tamp int (18), tamp av 5 (35, 41), tamp av 2 (44, 35, 30), simei rd (36), simei st 1 (37, 27, 25), simei st 3 (29), simei st 4 (29, 26), simei rd (08)

proudtobeme SG

service 292 on thursday at 6.20 pm

tamp int (33), tamp av 5 (44, 46), tamp av 2 (42, 36), tamp st 22 (20, 17), tamp av 2 (22, 24), tamp st 11 (20, 20), tamp av 5 (21, 16)

total travel time - 35 min.

array88 SG

service 20 wednesday 7,40am tamp int citaro

in 2 min next 20 citaro come and 10 peop board bus. bus pack to door also.

i also take bus in pm to see load but ok for citaro in pm. opp side full again.

service 20 wednesday 5,40pm tamp int citaro

tamp int (18), tamp av 5 (35, 41), tamp av 2 (44, 35, 30), simei rd (36), simei st 1 (37, 27, 25), simei st 3 (29), simei st 4 (29, 26), simei rd (08)

I'm quite surprised to see loading on 20 pick up so quickly at Tampines Ave 5 during AM... Which means they're likely transfer pax from 34 etc. And it's crazy to have 58 pax even before it hits Simei MRT... Last time when I did loading analysis on 20, only 30-40 pax left after Simei MRT towards Tampines.

Svc 20 should definitely be getting more DDs.... Quite ironic that many DD services (including some services with almost full fleet DD) do not have DD loading (especially during off-peak), but some services with really high loading end up getting less DDs. Especially new services and those services that only become DD-friendly recently, like 66, 145 etc.

array88 SG

I cannot upload the photos here... So just describe in words first.

At 10.10pm, I took a 66 DD at Botanic Gardens MRT towards Jurong East. Upper deck was full of Indian workers. Lower deck not really packed to the door, but still quite crowded with standees. (I had to alight opposite NJC so couldn't see where the crowds were heading to)

Wonder how 66 coped with such loading before it got DDs.

A 67 DD just called at Botanic Gardens MRT 3 minutes before this 66 DD, so 66's role is not just to compliment 67. Which means that 66 may still have high loadings even after DTL opens.

uniquelymee SG

SV 156 loading

typical sat morn - full seating w half standing
- most pax boards along YCK ave, alights at Bishan mrt

typical mon aftnn - full seating
- most pax boards along sengkang, mostly alights at Bishan mrt

How is its loading during peak hr?

BusAnalayzer SG

seems like the bus was late as ptbm spotted another sv 20 bus in 2 minutes after alighting, but I do agree sv 20 should get more DDs instead of fleet add. But then again, waiting for CBP terminal to open as I believe once CBP opens, there might be direct bus link to Tanah Merah, that might take off load from sv 20. For now, more DDs pls!

BusAnalayzer SG

service 20 wednesday 7,40am tamp int citaro

in 2 min next 20 citaro come and 10 peop board bus. bus pack to door also.

i also take bus in pm to see load but ok for citaro in pm. opp side full again.

service 20 wednesday 5,40pm tamp int citaro

tamp int (18), tamp av 5 (35, 41), tamp av 2 (44, 35, 30), simei rd (36), simei st 1 (37, 27, 25), simei st 3 (29), simei st 4 (29, 26), simei rd (08)

Are you able to also note the # people alighting and boarding, this will give a sense of the loading pattern. Thanks.

Path Light SG

Loading level on Service 502

Jurong West Central 3: 62

Jalan Boon Lay: 73

Boon Lay Avenue: 73

Jurong West Avenue 1: 59

Jurong East Avenue 1: 84

Jurong Town Hall Road: 54

Upper Serangoon Road: 104

Boundary Road: 184

Yio Chu Kang Link: 154

Yio Chu Kang Road: 175

Sengkang West Road: 139

Sengkang West Avenue: 184

Jalan Kayu: 100

Sengkang West Way: 204

Sengkang East Way: 149

Sengkang East Road: 139

SBS 9256 X SG

I cannot upload the photos here... So just describe in words first.

Wonder how 66 coped with such loading before it got DDs.

A 67 DD just called at Botanic Gardens MRT 3 minutes before this 66 DD, so 66's role is not just to compliment 67. Which means that 66 may still have high loadings even after DTL opens.

Svc 66 afaik, most Indian Workers prefer to take bus to Jurong East then transfer to MRT. Even like in Yishun, 857 is the most popular service for the Indian workers as compared to Svc 851. This is just my opinion coz I always see them taking 857 more towards Serangoon Rd.

BusAnalayzer SG

143M is one of the "wasted resources" service. I have mentioned this many times previously and for good reason.

Teban Gardens is way too spoilt with too many services now and the one that comes first gets the loading, and there will always be another bus following that will go all the way empty to interchange.

Teban Gardens: 143, 143M, 79 + 201 (might have a different catchment though during AM, some might take it to Clementi than JE)

Pandan Gardens: 51, 143, 143M, 201

Most of the above are 90% times a DD... In fact it is interesting to see that when 143M trails a 143 from Pandan to JE, it won't have more than 10-15 pax throughout as the 143 in front takes all the load. The 10-15 pax would be the ones who missed the bus by a whisker.

Likewise 79 comes empty from Buroh during AM, and now goes all the way empty to interchange. Earlier 79 would get critical mass at Teban Gardens, so had good bi-directional loading in Teban/Jurong east area.

AJQZC SG

143M is one of the "wasted resources" service. I have mentioned this many times previously and for good reason.

Teban Gardens is way too spoilt with too many services now and the one that comes first gets the loading, and there will always be another bus following that will go all the way empty to interchange.

Teban Gardens: 143, 143M, 79 + 201 (might have a different catchment though during AM, some might take it to Clementi than JE)

Pandan Gardens: 51, 143, 143M, 201

A while ago someone commented about the lack of ridership on 201 around the Teban / Pandan area, is it still the same now? If so, would that not make 201 more "wasteful" than 143M?

Path Light SG

171 always have >42 passengers

BusAnalayzer SG

A while ago someone commented about the lack of ridership on 201 around the Teban / Pandan area, is it still the same now? If so, would that not make 201 more "wasteful" than 143M?

No buddy... not at all... I wouldn't say 201 is a waste

- loading is decent, in fact great between Clementi and Kent Ridge, and not poor between Clementi and Teban

- provides new connections and alternative to 154 for AYE/Clementi as well as for Teban/Pandan to transfer to other services along AYE

- those going to Clementi don't need to go back to JE and take MRT. Direct

143M is a waste because

- The combination of 51, 78, 79, 143 were able to manage the load very well between Teban/Pandan to JE

- 143M is just added capacity that is taking away loading from other services. As I mentioned if 143M comes first, it will go full to the interchange. If it comes after 79/143, it will go empty all the way back. Many times you will see 143, 143M, 79 all one after another.

- 79 did job of 143M with mostly DDs... as it comes empty from Buroh so a good 60-70 pax would board in Teban to JE if 143 not ahead. Now 143M is also added.

array88 SG

As I alighted from 156, there was a 189 Enviro right in front. Packed to the door and people couldn't board. Didn't see upper deck clearly but should be fully seated.

array88 SG

As I was waiting, the same 189 Enviro came back towards Clementi Ave 1. Should have 50-60 pax onboard. Most of them alighted and only <10 pax boarded.

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