LTA calls tender for mock-ups for Concept Bus

sgbuses SG

PT236 Concept Bus Mock-up

Calling for: One single deck or double deck Concept Bus mock-up or both

Closing date: 3 June 2015

Delivery date: 17 September 2015

Source: http://www.lta.gov.sg/apps/tender/

Opinon

1. Should be related to procurement of buses for current and future GCMs. Tender explicitly stated that the supplier must be an experienced bus manufacturer.

2. No articulated bus indicated as part of tender - no articulated buses to be procured in future?

3. "Concept bus" may suggest a brand new bus design for Singapore's operating environment, possibly along the lines of how NBfL and NTfL are developed in London.

carbikebus SG

How about a 12.5m tri axles with dual staircases and three doors?If the manufacturers can design and built can say goodbye to bendy buses already

JurongWestresident SG

Manufacturing our own bus can better enable us to have customised features. One challenge is that the Capacity should be larger, if not remain the same. #justsaying

Concept bus.... what if it's just a regular bus, but one hundred per cent made in Singapore? a regular bus, with additional features... either physically or on the design, or simply some customization of parts (eg. signboard). maybe that is what they mean by concept bus...

SBS2601D SG

Those who registered with GeBiz, will keep to themselves...

And yes - articulated buses will die out. It didn't really matter how many years it took for proponents to see it, but this is not confirmation enough?

carbikebus SG

Design,built by Singapore but mechanism must be under European..Drooling something like the A39 but much shorter version say 12.5m?I dont mind bendy phased out if this became reality..Good for anything from trunks to Intratowns!

SMB145B SG

single decks could possibly be either rigids or bendies.

wsy1234 SG

like this one http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/19/new-bus-london-boris-johnson bulid with a 12.5m tri axles bus chassis

SMB145B SG

like this one http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/19/new-bus-london-boris-johnson bulid with a 12.5m tri axles bus chassis

three door two stairs double decker??

ButIAmAToilet SG

Well, I am fine with a 12.5m DD with 2 staircases and 3 doors, but DON'T expect it to have the same capacity as a standard 12m DD or 18m bendy.

Although I would favour a 10m bi-axle DD instead. There are high loading services that cannot ply 12m DDs due to the roads the service ply through.

SBS351M SG

They should focus on improving the bus network, especially with connectivity, instead of doing this kind of prestige projects.

JurongWestresident SG

They should focus on improving the bus network, especially with connectivity, instead of doing this kind of prestige projects.

I agree. Unless this increases the capacity OR (AND) reduces operating costs (eg. more energy efficient), the time is not yet right for us to manufacture our own buses.

Nonetheless, haven't we already manufactured our own buses before, by Comfort Delgro, ST, etcetera.?

Anyway, besides capacity and operating costs, I think what we need/want is either more bus services, or some campaigns/programmes/schemes/initiatives/measures to change some travel patterns to spread out the loading across more time periods. #justsaying

carbikebus SG

Well,There is already a feedback that normal 12m DDs and bendy doesnt favour Sg feeders and trunks respectively..LTA wanna standardise to normal SD and DD only so the best option is to design something like the A39 with shorter length(12.5/12.8m)..

SexyMichael SG

I agree. Unless this increases the capacity OR (AND) reduces operating costs (eg. more energy efficient), the is not yet right for us to manufacture our own buses.

Nonetheless, haven't we already manufactured our own buses before, by Comfort Delgro, ST, etcetera.?

dude, wake up!! (splashes water on face)

the local industry can never support bus-building on an industralised scale, like what you get in malaysia, australia, china, europe or even the US. whatever reasons and benefits conceived are never likely to give SC Auto or Soon Chow reasons to exapand and become a local GML.

did CDGE manufactue its own buses before? there's quite some difference between the following:
1) bodywork assembly
2) chassis assembly
3) complete bus production

likewise, ST also manufactures buses ar?

the problems run deeper than campaigns, promotions are gonna fix. Singapore is past trying to change travel habits, and the prime challenge, imo, is to meet loading challenges across time by adjusting supply rather than manipulating demand.

SexyMichael SG

dont confuse a route design problem with the vehicles deployed onto the route

wow, an 'additional' 0.5m is indeed standardization, especially when the bulk of drivers are already trained and certified on 12m vehicles well done!!

carbikebus SG

dont confuse a route design problem with the vehicles deployed onto the route

wow, an 'additional' 0.5m is indeed standardization, especially when the bulk of drivers are already trained and certified on 12m vehicles well done!!

Just saying dude,no need for the sarcasm,Thanks!

sgbuses SG

dude, wake up!! (splashes water on face)

did CDGE manufactue its own buses before? there's quite some difference between the following:
1) bodywork assembly
2) chassis assembly
3) complete bus production

likewise, ST also manufactures buses ar?

Perhaps he is referring to SC Auto or Soon Chow? CDGE did built the bodywork of 200 Euro III B9TLs on their own, but that's probably not enough.

Tender eligibility requires the manufacturer to have exported of at least 1,000 city buses outside of the local market. I don't think any local manufactuers will be able to meet this requirement.

carbikebus SG

Maybe invite GML here hahaha

SBS2601D SG

They should focus on improving the bus network, especially with connectivity, instead of doing this kind of prestige projects.

What is a "prestige project"?

And how is this "prestigious"?

The simple mind of mine only conceives it as a way for the Authority to evaluate and assess options for purchasing buses.

Perhaps you could fire up my imagination and then I can somehow "contribute" to this forum.

Or not.

SBS2601D SG

I agree. Unless this increases the capacity OR (AND) reduces operating costs (eg. more energy efficient), the time is not yet right for us to manufacture our own buses.

Nonetheless, haven't we already manufactured our own buses before, by Comfort Delgro, ST, etcetera.?

Nothing in that excerpt that sgbuses has kindly provided in the lead post suggests manufacturing buses remotely.

You think what we need/want is either more bus services, or some campaigns/programmes/schemes/initiatives/measures to change some travel patterns to spread out the loading across more time periods.

I think what we need will be more discerning minds.

JurongWestresident SG

Nothing in that excerpt that sgbuses has kindly provided in the lead post suggests manufacturing buses remotely.

You think what we need/want is either more bus services, or some campaigns/programmes/schemes/initiatives/measures to change some travel patterns to spread out the loading across more time periods.

I think what we need will be more discerning minds.

huh? what talking you? ok ok... whatever la...