New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs

last SG · 2014-10-14T00:04:39+00:00

Loyang district includes:- Loyang Industrial Estate- Old Tampines Road- Upper Changi North (not industrial estate though)- Flora* Considering this my guess i...

array88 SG

99 seems more or less confirmed to Joo Koon

Bussyboy50 SG

Then this will no longer be a direct service from Yew Tee to Bukit Panjang. No different from taking 302/307 then change to LRT/190/975.

I always thought that if they extended 983 it will be this:

CCK -> CCK Ave 5 -> Bukit Panjang -> KJE -> Yew Tee -> KJE -> Bukit Panjang -> CCK Ave 5 -> CCK

i think this one is the best so far.. doesn't really matter if it's round route because either way there's 302/307 to go CCK faster.

BusAnalayzer SG

In all honesty, unlike LTA press release, Q4 might see following service updates:

- 49 to Jurong East (Lake district service)

- 99 to Joo Koon (Clementi, Jurong West)

- Joo Koon restructuring

- 983 in Dec to BPJ area...

117 might be introduced in Nov or Dec...

All other services mentioned will roll into 2016.

dupdup77 SG

Yes the next 3 months (oct, nov, dec) will be interesting to watch. Cheers.

AJQZC SG

Then this will no longer be a direct service from Yew Tee to Bukit Panjang. No different from taking 302/307 then change to LRT/190/975.

I always thought that if they extended 983 it will be this:

CCK -> CCK Ave 5 -> Bukit Panjang -> KJE -> Yew Tee -> KJE -> Bukit Panjang -> CCK Ave 5 -> CCK

Personally I'm against the idea of looping 983 to Yew Tee via BPJ ... while both CCK Ave 5 and Yew Tee residents get links to BPJ MRT, the demand for trips between this two estates is relatively low, and transfers at CCK MRT are more convenient.

At the same time, Yew Tee residents still get nowhere further out of town other than CCK / BPJ. No routes to other towns for more extensive links. Currently, a trip to nearby Hillview takes at least two transfers, which is very inconvenient.

I would rather 983 do an extension into BPJ interior, via Upp Bt Timah Rd / Petir / Pending / Bangkit / Fajar (somewhat like BPS, and alternative to 920/922/972), and then 177 can extend into Yew Tee. The 177A/B split sections during peak hours can ensure minimal bunching as well.

But in the event that 983 really gets extended this way, then I just hope that LTA has at least made considerations of staggering bus stops around the BPJ MRT area:

BusAnalayzer SG

But in the event that 983 really gets extended this way, then I just hope that LTA has at least made considerations of staggering bus stops around the BPJ MRT area:

Not sure why would you say the demand from YT to BPJ will be low. In fact, I think it will be a huge relief to 302/307. Those wanting to go to DTL, get direct connection. Remember that those who want to use NSL have a MRT at YT. So in fact, I think 983 will be hugely popular not just for DTL but also for transfering to other services such as 67, 176, 190, 700, 960, 963 this will be the quickest option. In fact 983 > 190 will be faster than taking 302 > 190.

array88 SG

In all honesty, unlike LTA press release, Q4 might see following service updates:

- 49 to Jurong East (Lake district service)

- 99 to Joo Koon (Clementi, Jurong West)

- Joo Koon restructuring

- 983 in Dec to BPJ area...

117 might be introduced in Nov or Dec...

All other services mentioned will roll into 2016.

How to explain the huge spam of Citaros in BNDEP a few days (or weeks) ago?

array88 SG

But in the event that 983 really gets extended this way, then I just hope that LTA has at least made considerations of staggering bus stops around the BPJ MRT area:

Obviously the purpose of extending 983 to Yew Tee is not for people to take from Yew Tee to CCK Ave 5. It's for people from Yew Tee to Bukit Panjang.

Anyway let's just wait and see the final route for 983.

AJQZC SG

Nope, you misunderstood me. I meant to say that not many people would travel between Yew Tee and CCK Ave 5 area, so it is still justified to extend another service other than 983 to Yew Tee (such as 177). 983 would then be fine to loop at Bt Panjang.

BusAnalayzer SG

Actually can introduce a new service 984 to cover all of YT

Bukit Panjang Interchange > BPJ Road > Woodlands RD > KJE > CCK Way (2 stops, 302) > CCK North 5 (2 stops) > CCK st 54 (new stop) > CCK North 6 (1 stop, 307) > YT MRT > CCK North 7 (1 stop) > CCK Crescent (4 stops - opp of route 302) > CCK North 7 (new stop) > CCK Way (new stop) > CCK North 6 (2 new stops, one outside YT Residence, + 1 existing stop w/ sv 307) > CCK st 54 (new stop) > CCK North 5 (2 stops) > CCK Way (2 stops) > KJE > Woodlands Rd > BPJ Road > BPJ Interchange

* No other route can provide better connectivity to BPJ MRT and all of YT town than the one outlined above.

* Can be operated with majority DD fleet

Path Light SG

Not the rumors of Service 164 again.

SBS2652G SG

How to explain the huge spam of Citaros in BNDEP a few days (or weeks) ago?

Tamp/Bdk/MP svc

array88 SG

Tamp/Bdk/MP svc

So it's full SD fleet? Lol... Feels like it goes to area with height restrictions (either Haig Rd or Telok Kurau?)

Anyway good service to look forward too, at least not short feeders

BusAnalayzer SG

So it's full SD fleet? Lol... Feels like it goes to area with height restrictions (either Haig Rd or Telok Kurau?)

Anyway good service to look forward too, at least not short feeders

Depends on the route. BNDEP does have few BSEP WEG SP + new batch will be registered soon.

By the way have you traveled Haig road? It is extremely narrow and the turn from Geylang Serai is too tight. The part between Dunman and Mountbatten is okay.

BusAnalayzer SG

Tamp/Bdk/MP svc

I am struggling to understand how the Tampines-Bedok-Marine Parade service will look.

Lets see what we already have today:

10 > Tampines > Simei > Bedok Rd > UEC > EC (parallel road to MP)

12 > Pasir Ris > Tampines Ave 7 / 2 > Simei > Tanah Merah > Bedok South > UEC > EC (parallel road to MP)

14 > Bedok > Tanah Merah > Bedok Rd > UEC > EC (parallel road to MP)

15 > Pasir Ris > Tampines Ave 7 > MRT > Tampines Ave 4/5/1 > Kaki Bukit > Eunos > Siglap > MP

31 > Tampines > Simei > ITE > Tanah Merah > Bedok > MP

48 > Bedok North Depot > Bedok Road > Tanah Merah > UEC > MP

Apart from this you have,

16/32/40/196/197 all doing Bedok to EC or MP

And from Tampines to Bedok you have in different ways,

9/17/18/28/31/38/67/69 almost covering all major avenues between these two towns.

So I feel the new route may be a mere extension of existing route to Marine Parade rather than a new route altogether.

Path Light SG

Maybe the new Service 164?

ButIAmAToilet SG

I am struggling to understand how the Tampines-Bedok-Marine Parade service will look.

Lets see what we already have today:

10 > Tampines > Simei > Bedok Rd > UEC > EC (parallel road to MP)

12 > Pasir Ris > Tampines Ave 7 / 2 > Simei > Tanah Merah > Bedok South > UEC > EC (parallel road to MP)

14 > Bedok > Tanah Merah > Bedok Rd > UEC > EC (parallel road to MP)

15 > Pasir Ris > Tampines Ave 7 > MRT > Tampines Ave 4/5/1 > Kaki Bukit > Eunos > Siglap > MP

31 > Tampines > Simei > ITE > Tanah Merah > Bedok > MP

48 > Bedok North Depot > Bedok Road > Tanah Merah > UEC > MP

Apart from this you have,

16/32/40/196/197 all doing Bedok to EC or MP

And from Tampines to Bedok you have in different ways,

9/17/18/28/31/38/67/69 almost covering all major avenues between these two towns.

So I feel the new route may be a mere extension of existing route to Marine Parade rather than a new route altogether.

Svc 18 extension?

Or duplicate Svc 15 from Tamp to MP, svc 15 cut back to Eunos, can spam DD on svc 15?

BusAnalayzer SG

Svc 18 extension?

Or duplicate Svc 15 from Tamp to MP, svc 15 cut back to Eunos, can spam DD on svc 15?

The other option I see is extension of sv 48 to Tampines or Changi Business Park. But 48 does not do Bedok MRT, does Bedok South if that counts.

BusAnalayzer SG

One more option I can think of:

sv 68: Tampines <> Marine Parade (turns at Tanjong Katong Rd and does lower part of Haig towards Marine Parade, Joo Chiat Rd, Mountbatten road and back)

sv 67: Eunos <> CCK

SinkTel SG

The other option I see is extension of sv 48 to Tampines or Changi Business Park. But 48 does not do Bedok MRT, does Bedok South if that counts.

Saw on 2 occasion traning buses turning out from Bedok South Ave 1 towards Bedok MRT, not sure if it's related, cheers!

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