SMRT MAN NG363F A24 discussions

last SG · 2014-12-04T22:41:51+00:00

but 904 is BSEP serv.It may not receive bendy

SBS7557R SG

Wikipedia says that A24s will be used on 67, 184, 800, 804, 806, 811, 812, 903, 960, 964. I think 67 and 960 wont be getting them because the route is already DD-friendly now. But they still omitted 860 hmmm... maybe BSEP still wants to trial DD on this service after shifting to the new interchange even after the failed trial on 964

The credibility of Wikipedia is still doubtful given that these are just mere projections of how the A24s will be deployed when they're in r/s.

carbikebus SG

I dont think those A24s will be use for long haul trunks..Even for feeders also not enough

carbikebus SG

Oh ya before i forget,There is a source say only a new bendy can registered if current 2 bendy is deregistered..2-1 replacement and meaning in future we only can see 155 unit the most

TIB429E SG

Looking forward to 67/960 DDs later(15/2) and tmr (16/2)..

I seriously dk why LTA dgaf to 960 when it was suppose to be out by 2014..

BusAnalayzer SG

i think we need to face reality here. LTA has clearly not supported use of bendies and hence, no bendies were introduced as part of BSEP. Even when SBST were getting DDs, SMRT were getting only MANA22s. Only when SMRT decided to go in for DDs, BSEP gave SMRT high capacity buses in form of DDs.

We can debate how much ever we want on DD v/s bendy but the truth is # of bendies will be drastically reduced to only feeders/intra-towns in future & non-BSEP services. If you also read carbikebus post, new A24 introduction is a 2:1 replacement, when 2 bendies de-register, 1 will get registered.

Already SMRT has a big shortage of high capacity buses. I hope they bring in more DDs asap and do the bendy allocation appropriately for feeders/intratowns in CCK, WDL and Yishun towns.

BusAnalayzer SG

if 964 have a dd will 962 also have in near future?

It very well could coz the one BSEP slot that is a SD might get upgraded to DD in future. 962 for now is doing okay, maybe thats why slot is still not upgraded.

randomguy10 SG

IMO, LTA didnt buy Bendys under BSEP for SMRT before because LTA did not want to increase the no. of bendys on the roads. And yes, they shouldnt and there is no need to increase numbers when bendy usage is going to be restricted to feeders/short trunks. At that point when LTA was purchasing MAN A22s only under BSEP, TIB849B still havent deregister yet. This is also in line with LTA's objective of not using Bendys on town-bound services and long haul trunks.

They might purchase in future when the O405Gs deregister, exclusive for deployment to feeders and short hauls, regardless of who the operator is. If they want to move totally away from bendys, why even approve SMRT to purchase the A24s? If they let SMRT purchase and then play hardball buy not deploying on BSEP services that need it (eg. 860), I would just say its damn stupid. It also looks bad on them because why the double standards. They are the governing body to approve purchase of buses - so if no bendy just ban SMRT from buying lah. Cant be SMRT have power to just ignore them and buy according to their wish what...

carbikebus SG

Even when 2016,Think LTA wouldnt want the O405Gs anyway hence they will be scrap or export to other countries..The most A24s you will see is less than 150

randomguy10 SG

I think the O405Gs will still be used in Singapore till their end of 17-year lifespan. They wont be bought over by LTA into the contracting model packages since they are non-WAB. But the bus contracting model is only going to cover whole of Singapore by 2022. SMRT can still use these buses on the routes not under contracting model yet till end of time mah. And I believe so, if not it will be no point sending them for refurbishment. Most O405Gs will end lifespan in 2017 anyway. The later batches might deregister early or may be sold overseas I hope.

Its sad that box bendies didnt get their extension because I think alot of them are still in relatively good condition. Atleast could have exported, scrapping was such a waste. I take TIB885X, TIB894U and TIB899G very often and these buses are still in good condition with relatively quiet engines. TIB903C is probably one of those not in very good shape.

proudtobeme SG

some bendy on 67 and 969 so bad. gud to see they got terminated and not extend.

carbikebus SG

some bendy on 67 and 969 so bad. gud to see they got terminated and not extend.

Majority of the O405Gs are in bad shape and condition..Its time to gradually scrap or export them..Train more technician to learn MAN,New MB and Alexander Dennis engine..

randomguy10 SG

Actually its got to do with SMRT maintenance... The newer OCs also not in very good shape!

Iram.naz1236 SG

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carbikebus SG

Actually its got to do with SMRT maintenance... The newer OCs also not in very good shape!

Agreed on that,Though Kranji buses have more algae on side and the roof top but maintenance wise theyre still top notch over Wldep and Amdep.What i knew is some top technicians from Amdep and Wldep transfer over there previously.

TIB1234T SG

Where got top sia? Maybe after transfering the workers over then became top. Took 1173K 106 last year, it was horrendous. The interior machiam an old history of castle, left untouch for many yrs without cleaning, mould patches everywhere. Likewise for KJ Box-Bendies, many of them were so much dustier than WL ones. Got ones I took 882D 190 and 898J 188, cobwebs everywhere on the corner of the windows and some even had spiders crawling around.

WL dirtiest is 1056R 960, cockroach infested bus which I told SMRT before but no reply.

carbikebus SG

Kjdep surroundings you know its dustier,Not a good place to make a depot there..The Junction also waiting accidents to happen.Hopefully the newer buses can endure another 2-3 years before Mandai is open

TIB1234T SG

Confirm will have snake cases... lol

TIB897L on 67 kenna before last year & TIB1233X happened while inside WLDEP, last year as well...

Sinigami727 SG

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SMB315C SG

SMB8001E registered as of today 11 Mar 2015..

carbikebus SG

Why 388S stated as 320hp while this 8001E is 360hp at Sgwiki?

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