SMRT MAN NG363F A24 discussions

last SG · 2014-12-04T22:41:51+00:00

but 904 is BSEP serv.It may not receive bendy

carbikebus SG

But to be honest knowing SMRT style they might dereg the first few batch 1 Habits first..Look at Hinos,Lances,CRLs..

SMB3095S SG

From what I know, all of the MAN A24s will be under AMDEP. Because since AMDEP cannot take in Enviro 500s while the rest of the depot can take, so AMDEP will take all of MAN A24s. Well, this is fair enough.

Marvel68 SG

If that's the case, the potential services that will be trying out the A24s will be 67,800-806,812,851,854,969 from my guessing.

carbikebus SG

I dun think so,how bout other feeders wanna WAB?Deploy DDs and A22s?SMRT already intend to refurb AMDEP with the option of expand it..only time will tell

TIB999B SG

Read from somewhere or anpther post in this forum that AMDEP will get the 40 A24s as since it cannot take in DDs,the A24s will only be for Ampdep and another reason the person said is that the bendies at AMDEP are not in really good condition so the A24 goes to AMDEP

carbikebus SG

If really Amdep then its quite wasted imo..Probably SMRT can buy another 60 Citaro G II for Amdep beside a few A24?

Summary of where should the 40 A24s goes

800-4

804-4

806-6

811-4

812-5

851-5

854-6

857-3

wsy1234 SG

no need any new depot by the time it bulid new MRT line start operating. i think the bus depot and MRT depot will combine into one just the changi one smart design save land space. Also if SMRT want to bring in bendy buses you will see them sooner than later. it seems like might be a change of mind maybe.

carbikebus SG

Changi & Mandai one fine example of integrated depot..But again one depot probably you will see SBST/SMRT and another co together...

SMB315C SG

2 unpainted MAN NG363F buses have been delivered to WPDEP.

1 on 14/01/2015, and the other 15/01/2015..

And this doesn't mean it'll 100% sure a WPDEP controlled bus..

SMB3095S SG

WPDEP is the one that take control of the repainting. Even the newly delivered MAN A22 bus also go to Wldep to check maintenance before entering to any other depots.

SBS9C SG

The most visible different of the production batch A24s is the AC pods being supplied by Denso rather than Spheros. Other than that no Lion hair is present, which makes it look exactly like SMB388S or a stock Lion City G.

carbikebus SG

Hmm another 38 units on the way..

wsy1234 SG

Humm look like SMRT will be around to operate this new bendy buses for a while even smrt might not get the new tender. I don't think LTA will let the new operator use them.

BusAnalayzer SG

2 unpainted MAN NG363F buses have been delivered to WPDEP.

1 on 14/01/2015, and the other 15/01/2015..

And this doesn't mean it'll 100% sure a WPDEP controlled bus..

The A24s should go to AMDEP considering KJDEP/WLDEP get the E500 high capacity buses.

randomguy10 SG

Good that the A24s have finally started to come in. Hopefully SMRT will use them wisely. Since they are highly likely to go into AMDEP, I hope they are used on Yishun Feeders like 800, 804, 806, 811, 812 first. I guess the 40 A24s together with the existing pool of O405G can make these services become WAB and also revert back to a almost all bendy fleet. I believe there will also be some units being deployed to woodlands feeder services because it will not make sense to use the balance A24s on trunks controlled by AMDEP, especially when SMRT has clearly stated bendies for feeders/short trunks and DDs for middle to long distance trunks.

However, I guess there are still bound to be some SDs around because of those MAN A22s added under BSEP. Hopefully, LTA will also register some BSEP A24s and replace the MAN A22 BSEP slots. And if they do, they can also add A24s to 860.

Since SMRT has already purchased and taken delivery of the A24s, I dont see a point for LTA to play hardball and not accept bendies to be part of BSEP. If they wanted to do away with bendies, they should have rejected SMRT's purchase in the first place. IMO, i rather let SMRT win Bulim than SBST because atleast then, you could see bendies being operated on Feeders. And maybe it would be a wake up call for SBST to give up its one-size-fits-it-all mentality

TIB999B SG

if only they paint the area under windscreen black lik e 5888h with thinner yellow strip

BusAnalayzer SG

If really Amdep then its quite wasted imo..Probably SMRT can buy another 60 Citaro G II for Amdep beside a few A24?

Summary of where should the 40 A24s goes

800-4

804-4

806-6

811-4

812-5

851-5

854-6

857-3

No need A24s for 851, 854, 857 ~ these should have E500s.

BusAnalayzer SG

40 A24 bendy deployment:

Yishun - 10

800 - 1 (SD-->Bendy)

804 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

806 - 2 (1 SD-->Bendy upgrade, 1 fleet add from SMRT side)

811 - 5 (SD --> Bendy, after becoming WAB got 11 SDs... very badly managed service)

812 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

Woodlands - 10

900 - 1 (SD-->Bendy)

901 - 1 (SD-->Bendy)

903 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

911 - 4 (SD-->Bendy)

912 - 2 (SD-->Bendy)

913 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

Bukit Panjang - 5

920 - 3 (SD-->Bendy, will need after DTL2 opens and Senja flats completed)

922 - 2 (SD-->Bendy, will need after DTL2 opens and with Segar flat completion)

CCK - 9

300 - 3 (SD-->Bendy)

302 - 2 (1 SD-->Bendy, 1 fleet add from SMRT side)

307 - 4 (4 SD-->Bendy)

Bukit Batok - 3

941 - 1 (1 SD-->Bendy)

945 - 2 (2 SD-->Bendy)

947 - 0

Spare - 3

* assuming all current bendy slots remain as they can get bendies from the services where it gets upgraded to DD

TPS Timothy Mok SG

40 A24 bendy deployment:

Yishun - 10

800 - 1 (SD-->Bendy)

804 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

806 - 2 (1 SD-->Bendy upgrade, 1 fleet add from SMRT side)

811 - 5 (SD --> Bendy, after becoming WAB got 11 SDs... very badly managed service)

812 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

Woodlands - 10

900 - 1 (SD-->Bendy)

901 - 1 (SD-->Bendy)

903 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

911 - 4 (SD-->Bendy)

912 - 2 (SD-->Bendy)

913 - 1 (fleet add from SMRT side)

Bukit Panjang - 5

920 - 3 (SD-->Bendy, will need after DTL2 opens and Senja flats completed)

922 - 2 (SD-->Bendy, will need after DTL2 opens and with Segar flat completion)

CCK - 9

300 - 3 (SD-->Bendy)

302 - 2 (1 SD-->Bendy, 1 fleet add from SMRT side)

307 - 4 (4 SD-->Bendy)

Bukit Batok - 3

941 - 1 (1 SD-->Bendy)

945 - 2 (2 SD-->Bendy)

947 - 0

Spare - 3

* assuming all current bendy slots remain as they can get bendies from the services where it gets upgraded to DD

The MAN A24 initial deployment will be 184 (WLDEP), 300 (KJDEP), 800, 804, 806, 812 and 964 (WPDEP). It will be very easy for 964 to hit WAB; especially they need to get their old bendy buses out as it will spoil and have technical problems, especially those ageing.

TPS Timothy Mok SG

184 needs bendies due to the fact that some notable sections is short-distance.

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