Route Suggestions (Part 5)

last SG · 2013-12-18T00:11:01+00:00

Suggesting a route extension for 198.VIa Jln Bukit Merah, Cantonment road, Expressway, Fort Road, Mountbatten Road, Amber road, Marine parade road, bedok sou...

TPS Timothy Mok SG

As a second thought, of the bus is coming to Bedok, it will pass through SBST area anyway. So over here SMRT will be violating the territorial clause. So LTA should be okay even if SBST wants to operate route.

Of the bus that is coming to Bedok it can make sense. Just run it under SMRT in case of MRT breakdown. Or maybe can try SBST.

BusAnalayzer SG

See, a victim of dictatorship that supports SG's bullshit method of route planning.

Are you sure 28 is STRAIGHTFORWARD??

Wind Tampines, Bedok, Chai Chee and Tai Seng blocks you call straightforward?!

8 is the straightforward one lor, if from Tampines North CC.

Why can't Singapore have direct (or faster) svcs to the city and between towns, and let short hauls take over neighbourhood business instead? I mean, Look at 2, 80, 10. Not only Duplicate MRT, but in bad way somemore. At least make it express so that there is competition between bus and train! (unfortunately may not come true courtesy SG's "wonderful" PT masterplan)

And why introduce distance fares, and YET not let short haul trunk eg 38 to be used as neighbourhood svcs? Distance what, there mush be sacrifices made! After all, it won't cost you a cent more!

You seem like a master at route planning, is it?

I don't see anything wrong with sv 28's route. If you would be living along one of those Tampines streets, you would know. It connects so many HDB hubs within Tampines East, along st 41, 45, ave 9 to Tampines CC. Otherwise people would have to change. If these people have to go to SAFRA, they take 28, have to go to Bedok they take 28. Do you even know how packed this bus is from these streets. I don't care if it is direct or not, it benefits a lot of people.

28 is not meant for people to take from Tampines to Toa Payoh. They can choose other options. It is meant to connect Bedok to Tampines internal town and from Bedok to Paya Lebar industrial belt.

BusAnalayzer SG

See, a victim of dictatorship that supports SG's bullshit method of route planning.

Are you sure 28 is STRAIGHTFORWARD??

Wind Tampines, Bedok, Chai Chee and Tai Seng blocks you call straightforward?!

8 is the straightforward one lor, if from Tampines North CC.

And why introduce distance fares, and YET not let short haul trunk eg 38 to be used as neighbourhood svcs? Distance what, there mush be sacrifices made! After all, it won't cost you a cent more!

Also let me shoot you back in your face for your DOUBLE STANDARDS as always. You justify service 159 going a merry go round from AMK to Toa Payoh saying old ladies travel from Sengkang all the way to Toa Payoh Interchange. Now that is a straightforward route for you is it???? You really annoy me with your double standards everytime you post something.

And stop cribbing for god sake. Get a life!!

SMB128B SG

You seem like a master at route planning, is it?

28 is not meant for people to take from Tampines to Toa Payoh. They can choose other options. It is meant to connect Bedok to Tampines internal town and from Bedok to Paya Lebar industrial belt.

Thanks SO MUCH for agreeing with me!

So you do acknowledge 28 is not straightforward!

THEN WHY YOU STILL POST!!!

It's really gay to admit defeat in a hard-necked attempt to argue through a contradiction you know.

SMB128B SG

And stop cribbing for god sake. Get a life!!

There's a difference between cribbling, and words that make sense.

And by referring to how efficient buses run in other countries I acknowledge mine as not the former, but more of the latter (though not completely, I admit)

It's rather astonishing and amazing how you can use 159 to shoot me back. Try again bro.

Well never once did I say 159 is straightforward; it is just the most straightforward of them all.

And since even a little bit of transfer annoys you dear sir I can infer that the total 10 min walk transfer at Bishan and Serangoon will suck your soul away.

163 isn't helping either.

This is a perfect example of Singapore's screwed up transportation system. MRT? Frequency screwed up. Bus? Route screwed up. Taxi? Fleet and drivers screwed up. Car? COE, ERP screwed up. So we walk lah uh? I don't think you can leh, walk a few stops off and on the bus and waste less than 5 mins of your time will kill u liddat, then walk from Sengkang to TPY is like walking to the moon alr?

I don't think Singaporeans will be amused too.

Pervertedboy SG

BusAnalayzer SG

Thanks SO MUCH for agreeing with me!

So you do acknowledge 28 is not straightforward!

THEN WHY YOU STILL POST!!!

It's really gay to admit defeat in a hard-necked attempt to argue through a contradiction you know.

Listen dumb ass... 28 personally - i love the route because of the connectivity it offers to people.... so i dont care about it being straight forward or not... and u keep crying like a gay boy... yourself!

BusAnalayzer SG

There's a difference between cribbling, and words that make sense.

And by referring to how efficient buses run in other countries I acknowledge mine as not the former, but more of the latter (though not completely, I admit)

It's rather astonishing and amazing how you can use 159 to shoot me back. Try again bro.

Well never once did I say 159 is straightforward; it is just the most straightforward of them all.

And since even a little bit of transfer annoys you dear sir I can infer that the total 10 min walk transfer at Bishan and Serangoon will suck your soul away.

163 isn't helping either.

I don't think Singaporeans will be amused too.

Talk about contradiction, and there you contradict yourself again... you must be a real illiterate fool... double standards...

SMB128B SG

Hehe. That's quite evasive.

People like you just don't admit to mistakes.

Call people names somemore... When you keep kpkb on how ppl call u name whatsoever

And don't use the medicine shit again coz I didn't call you names. As in, you as a person.

Anyway, I am not an illiterate (idk if you're one). Definition of illiterate is a person who is unable to read or write. I can do both. You? Keep saying contradicting when I have alr clarified that alr. Cannot read is it?

carbikebus SG

Ok chill,Btw any ideas a short feeder from Sembawang to the new flats that arent serve by bus?

BusAnalayzer SG

Hehe. That's quite evasive.

People like you just don't admit to mistakes.

Call people names somemore... When you keep kpkb on how ppl call u name whatsoever

And don't use the medicine shit again coz I didn't call you names. As in, you as a person.

Middle finger!!

201911 SG

Ok chill,Btw any ideas a short feeder from Sembawang to the new flats that arent serve by bus?

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201911 SG

Ok chill,Btw any ideas a short feeder from Sembawang to the new flats that arent serve by bus?

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I think most parts of Sembawang are currently served by at least one bus service, though there can be a new svc to Admiralty Lane in future when that area is developed.

For now, maybe a new svc to Woodlands Ave 10 is possible, to serve the flats on the other side of the canal as well as the industrial areas. Currently, residents rely on bus stops along Sembawang Dr and Admiralty Dr, which can be quite far away. The bus stops along Ave 10 have been built since many years ago, but new overhead bridges would need to be built to connect the bus stops on both sides of the road to the Sembawang flats on the other side of the canal.

At the same time, such a service can further ply Admiralty Rd West, and also the inner regions of Woodlands Industrial Park E (where WLDEP/WLBP are located), which currently require some walking from the bus stops along Woodlands ave 9, 8 and Admiralty Rd West. This would also relieve the load on 169 and 856 by providing an alternative bus svc to the Woodlands/Admiralty industrial areas.

Service 967: Woodlands - Sembawang

Woodlands Int [Woodlands MRT]

Woodlands Ave 2

Woodlands Ave 9

Woodlands Ave 4

Woodlands Ind Pk E5

Woodlands Ind Pk E4

Woodlands Ind Pk E9

Woodlands Ind Pk E8

Woodlands Ind Pk E3

Woodlands Ave 8 [non-stop]

Admiralty Rd West

Woodlands Ave 10

Sembawang Way [Sembawang MRT]

Canberra Rd

Sembawang Vista [non-stop]

Sembawang Int [Sembawang MRT]

*italics - roads with new bus stop(s)

map: http://goo.gl/maps/jizYR

carbikebus SG

Nice route would be better if direction 1 start from Sembawang.

BusAnalayzer SG

Nice route would be better if direction 1 start from Sembawang.

cbb is hell bent to have services from Sembawang now... and I quite agree with you... WDL is too crowded and congested until alternate terminal arrangement is done. Actually should do Woodlands Checkpoint Interchange with 903, 911, 912, 913 terminating there. This would create enough new spots at WRI.

mwhale7886 SG

Service 46 (BNDEP)

Bedok North Depot - HarbourFront

Bedok North Ave 4

Upper Changi Road (new bus stops)

Tanah Merah Kechil Road (new bus stops)

Bedok South Ave 3

Upp East Coast Road

Bedok South Ave 1

Marine Parade Road

Amber Road

Haig Road (new bus stops)

Dunman Road

Old Airport Road

Mountbatten Road

Fort Road

ECP

MCE

AYE

Keppel Road

Anson Road

Robinson Road

Cross St

Upp Cross St

Chin Swee Road (use Svc 174 bus stops)

Outram Road

Tiong Bahru Road

Lower Delta Road

Kg Bahru Road

Telok Blangah Road

Harbourfront Int

Pervertedboy SG

Total length = 8.19km (8.2km)

201911 SG

Total length = 8.19km (8.2km)

1. Some parts of Jurong West such as Boon Lay Way (254) are only served by Jurong Industrial Svcs which also fulfil the role of feeders in connecting residential areas to the MRT stn/ bus int. While the connectivity is there, JIS have very poor frequency during off peak hours and can be terribly crowded during peak hours since their load is mainly to/from the industrial areas. With some JIS moving to the new Joo Koon Int in future, the lost links to residential areas can possibly be replaced with dedicated feeders.

2. St 61, 81 and Ave 5 have connections to Boon Lay MRT/Int, which is sufficient for transferring to other buses and for shopping and other amenities at Jurong Point. While it would be ideal to connect residential areas to the nearest MRT stn as far as possible, especially in a large town with multiple MRT stns, the demand may not be that great as the town/regional centre (Boon Lay) is more useful compared to a transfer node (Pioneer) that is usually not the intended final destination.

Not to say that such a svc is useless, but I think it may not be so important to provide additional connections to areas that already have at least one bus svc. Also, feeder bus connection from Pioneer MRT to JW St 91/92 (241) is impt bcos that area is rather far from Boon Lay, but less important for St 61, 71 and 81 which are relatively closer to Boon Lay.

If a new Boon Lay/JW feeder were to be introduced, it should serve areas that currently have no bus svc, such as St 93. Your proposed route serves St 71 that only has NR5, which is good to have but of lower priority since the flats along that road are relatively close to nearby bus stops along Ave 5, Ave 4 and Pioneer Rd North.

BusAnalayzer SG

I agree with all your comments. Boon Lay/Pioneer area is very well covered with feeder/trunk services. There is no need of additional bus services, especially at Pioneer MRT that cannot take any more. Max add one new service that will cater to st 93 as Pervertedboy had also suggested before. This is one of the areas where people have to walk long distance to get to nearest stop/MRT. Otherwise Boon Lay is more preferrable for most people than Pioneer as there is bus interchange / mall / other amenities.

201911 SG

Express 509: Tuas - Changi Village

Tuas Ter

Tuas West Dr

Tuas Cres

Tuas Basin Link

Tuas Rd

PIE

Upp Jurong Rd

Pioneer Rd North

PIE [non-stop]

Jln Toa Payoh

Lor 2 Toa Payoh [Toa Payoh MRT]

Lor 1 Toa Payoh [Braddell MRT]

Lor 6 Toa Payoh

Braddell Rd [stops at Blk 147/ Blk 219 bus stop pair]

Braddell Rd [non-stop, uses Braddell Underpass]

Bartley Rd [non-stop, uses Woodleigh Underpass]

Bartley Rd East [non-stop, uses Bartley Viaduct]

Tampines Ave 1

Tampines Ave 8

Tampines Ave 5 [non-stop]

Tampines Ave 10

TPE [non-stop]

Loyang Ave

Cranwell Rd

Netheravon Rd

Changi Village Rd

Changi Village Ter

map: http://goo.gl/maps/AOFnG

-Provides an alternative to the MRT for cross island travel, connecting the residential/industrial estates of Tuas/Jurong West, Toa Payoh and Tampines/Pasir Ris/Loyang

-Connects Pioneer Rd North directly to army camps (Jurong Camp, SAFTI, Pasir Laba Camp) along Upp Jurong Rd and Tuas industrial areas

- Directly connects residential/industrial areas at Tampines West (Ave 8, Ave 10) and Pasir Ris East/Loyang (Loyang Ave) via TPE, bypassing the town centres of Tampines/Pasir Ris

A super long bus svc like this is unlikely to be introduced with LTA bus planning favouring a hub-and-spoke model with mostly short bus svcs connecting to the MRT. However, in the event of an MRT breakdown, commuters who travel between the extreme ends of Sg have few viable bus alternatives.

This bus svc provides an alternative for east-west travel, connecting residential/industrial areas that are not directly served by the MRT. Thus, journey time via such a direct bus svc may be comparable to a bus-MRT-bus trip.

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