Route Suggestions (Part 5)

last SG · 2013-12-18T00:11:01+00:00

Suggesting a route extension for 198.VIa Jln Bukit Merah, Cantonment road, Expressway, Fort Road, Mountbatten Road, Amber road, Marine parade road, bedok sou...

BusAnalayzer SG

Feeder Bus Rationalisation for Choa Chu Kang (due to new BTOs in Keat Hong).

Rerouted Service 300 (Choa Chu Kang Int - Choa Chu Kang Ave 4)

I like your suggestion. Very realistic to get implemented. Also provides direct connectivity for ave 2 residents, who have to rely on long winding route of 300 via ave 3-5-4 to get back to CCK MRT.

JurongWestresident SG

The number of people staying in Taman Jurong will increase steadily over the next few years, as new BTO flats are developed there. Although some are on sites of past flats that were demolished, the number of units in the new BTOs are more than the number of units in the original flats. Meanwhile, some (eg. the upcoming one) are on sites that never had flats. With more people in Taman Jurong, the current feeder 240 may be unable to handle.

Likewise for Boon Lay, which also has new BTOs.

I suggest that 240 should be shortened and re-routed to loop within the residential area of Taman Jurong. This should adjust the feeder well to accomodate the increase in population, by serving the new BTOs in TJ while benefit the new BTOs in BL with better service reliability (due to shorter route).

23ispolo SG

Svc 137 AMK - JE

AMK Int

AMK Ave 8,5,4 (Mayflower MRT),3,1

Marymount Rd (Marymount MRT)

Thompson Rd

Whitley Rd/PIE

PIE

Jln Anak Bukit/Upp Bukit Timah Rd, Jln Jurong Kechil (Beauty World MRT)

PIE

Toh Guan Rd

Boon Lay Way

JE INT

Serves as intra-town in AMK west section. Currently, that section only have 76 and 138 plying internally.

Serves as quick link between Bishan to Bukit Timah, and Bukit Timah to Jurong East. current alternatives between Bishan - Bukit Timah is 74 and 852, and for MRT, Marymount to Botanic Gardens and then 66/67/170/171 down. For Bukit Timah - JE, current alternatives is 52 or 66. For MRT, either to Clementi and take 52/154/184, or to Bukit Batok and take 61/77. Not even the newer MRT lines can connect these areas that fast (especially Bukit Timah - JE)

Not bad. Clever use of the PIE from Thomson Road to Upper Bukit Timah Road. But I think the Upper Bukit Timah Road sector is not really needed, unless you use Clementi Road, AYE and Jurong Town Hall Road...

shellstation SG

Svc 117

Hougang Depot to Changi Business Park (Loop)

Can terminate at future CBP terminal in the future.

Route from Hougang Depot

Defu area

Upp Serangoon new flats

Buangkok MRT

Sengkang MRT

TPE, Exit Tamp Ave 12 like 969

Follow 15 to Tamp Ave 5

Go straight down Simei Ave passing by ITE

Enter CBP and follow 20 and loop back

Advantages

Faster connection from Sengkang to Tampines, can relieve 27's loadings drastically. I think this service can get full fleet DDs as 27's commuters will all flock to this now. 27 can half its fleet and freq can be more stable. Tamp to Airport still have 34 too.

Tampines to CBP direct route, relieve 20's peak hours crazy loadings. 20 will be more for ppl going Simei, while people going to the more populated Tampines will take this.

Relieve 31's loadings from Tamp to ITE

Provide new connections to Defu area (currently no bus svc) and upcoming Upp Serangoon flats area

After TPE bus stop open, 969's loadings will explode as commuters who want fast travel would hop onto any bus in Sengkang/Punggol to TPE bus stop and change 969 directly to Tampines. This svc will relieve loadings for 969.

dupdup77 SG

Svc 117

Hougang Depot to Changi Business Park (Loop)

Can terminate at future CBP terminal in the future.

Route from Hougang Depot

Defu area

Upp Serangoon new flats

Buangkok MRT

Sengkang MRT

TPE, Exit Tamp Ave 12 like 969

Follow 15 to Tamp Ave 5

Go straight down Simei Ave passing by ITE

Enter CBP and follow 20 and loop back

Advantages

Tampines to CBP direct route, relieve 20's peak hours crazy loadings. 20 will be more for ppl going Simei, while people going to the more populated Tampines will take this.

Relieve 31's loadings from Tamp to ITE

Provide new connections to Defu area (currently no bus svc) and upcoming Upp Serangoon flats area

Hi mr shellstation, good route. Hope it materializes. Cheers.

BusAnalayzer SG

Svc 117

Hougang Depot to Changi Business Park (Loop)

Can terminate at future CBP terminal in the future.

Route from Hougang Depot

Defu area

Upp Serangoon new flats

Buangkok MRT

Sengkang MRT

TPE, Exit Tamp Ave 12 like 969

Follow 15 to Tamp Ave 5

Go straight down Simei Ave passing by ITE

Enter CBP and follow 20 and loop back

Advantages

Tampines to CBP direct route, relieve 20's peak hours crazy loadings. 20 will be more for ppl going Simei, while people going to the more populated Tampines will take this.

Relieve 31's loadings from Tamp to ITE

Provide new connections to Defu area (currently no bus svc) and upcoming Upp Serangoon flats area

Very good route... Something similar to what I had proposed earlier. I highly doubt a route would initiate from HGDEP and if it plies Defu, it should do HG MRT. I propose some modifications, providing more connectivity, yet keeping it fast to Tampines.

Sv 47

HG interchange

HG ave 5 (1 stop)

HG ave 7 (3 stops)

Upper Serangoon Rd (2 stops)

Buangkok Dr (2 new stops near Austerville condo, opp Sengkang Fire Station)

Sengkang Central (Buangkok MRT)

Sengkang East Ave (1 stop)

Sengkang East Rd (2 stops)

Sengkang East Way (MRT, bef Punggol rd)

Punggol Rd (1 stop)

TPE interchange stop

Tampines Ave 12 (express)

Tampines Ave 9 (new stop - blk 426)

Tampines st 41 (1 stop)

Tampines ave 4 (MRT, century square)

Tampines ave 5 (1 stop)

Simei (3 stops incl Changi hospital, ITE)

sv 20 route looping @ CBP

* provides Buangkok and HG MRT access to new flats along Upper Serangoon rd and Buangkok dr

* trunk route and MRT connectivity for residents along HG ave 5/7

* direct MRT stop at compass point since 27 stop is far from MRT, promoting more ppl to take Sv 47

* TPE and Punggol rd stop to get fast to Tampines

* MRT and Tampines 4/5 connectivity to flats along st 41 and ave 9 (new stop)

* additional trunk connectivity to poorly connected ITE, Changi hospital and CBP hubs

* route can have 80% DDs and Sv 27 fleet can be cut down to 20 buses from 32 buses with Sv 47 having dedicated 14 DDs, 4 SDs (fleet of 18 buses)

ButIAmAToilet SG

Yet another AMK to god_knows_where route

Svc 129/129M YCK - Changi Ferry Rd

YCK TER (YCK MRT)

AMK Ave 6,9,St 63,65

YCK Rd (Lentor MRT)

AMK Ave 4,5 (NYP), 10,3

YCK Rd

S'goon Ctrl, Upp S'goon Rd (S'goon MRT)

Bartley Rd (Bartley MRT)

Bartley Rd East (Express)

Tamp Ave 10,1 (TP), 4 (Tamp West/Tamp MRT), 7 (Tamp East MRT)

Loyang Ave

Telok Paku Rd

Nicoll Dr

Changi Coast/Ferry Rd

(129 only) Changi Coast Rd, Alps Ave, Airline Rd

129M returns via Changu Coast Rd

During AM Peak, 129 will skip following stops

Tamp Ave 7 - Blk 423, Blk 449, Tamp JC, Blk 497D

Loyang Ave - Blk 149A, Blk 275, After PSR Dr 3, Opp Loyang Valley, Bef Sch of Commando, Bef Cranwell Rd, Opp Maranatha B-P Church, After Changi Golf Course

Telok Paku Rd - Bef SG Aviation Acadamy

Nicoll Dr - Changi Beach CP 3, Changi Beach CP 4, Changi Beach CP 5

During PM Peak, 129 will skips the stops in opp direction only

129M to serve all stops in express sector

Pros

Link YCK/Lentor MRT to AMK St 65

Link Lentor MRT/AMK Ave 3/S'goon Nth to NYP

Link S'goon/Bartley MRT to TP/Tamp

Link Tamp West MRT with TP

Serve full stretch of Tamp Ave 4

Express from Tamp to Loyang/Changi

Cons

AMK sector too long

Duplicates with Svc 19

I think the pros of this route lies with its AMK Intra-Town, S'goon - Tamp and Tamp to Loyang/Changi Ferry/Alps Ave. Yes, I am aware it duplicates 19 (because it is one of two routes to Changi, other being Upp Changi Rd Nth, which is less direct). So its peak route is made express to get different loads from 19, despite being on the same route. 129M is more of a school bus svc, fetching people to NYP, TP and Changi Ferry. While 129 is more for industrial, 129M is more for residental. However, 129 can also serve 129M's needs, and vice-versa

SBS5010P SG

Blah blah blah blah...

Rude. Very Rude. Self proclaimed BusAnalayzer.

carbikebus SG

860 actually can start from Sembawang come out from Yishun Ave 1 then loop at its originallooping point..
861 Sembawang-Bukit Batok enough..I dont think theres enough space for SMRT svc there

carbikebus SG

113 can just extend to buangkok int.. No need to cut short really. 113 and 62 serves a very important role at hougang.

I think in future 112 & 113 will start from Buangkok looping at Hougang Central

BusAnalayzer SG

Rude. Very Rude. Self proclaimed BusAnalayzer.

Well..

1. The only thing u can talk about is how great service 113 is

2. How badly SBST/LTA treat Sv 113

3. How only u find 113 always packed to door.. Whenever anyone else has taken the service, there has been enough space even during peak (multiple users here have taken it given ur constant ranting)

4. 113 needs DDs (May be u wrote 1000 posts just on that). Even if some of us agree 113 needs a fleet add or crossover during peak, we are totally bored to hear anything more on 113

5. How u have said DDs on 101 is waste and should be given to 113 (countless such examples)

so for me if u again want to post about 113 and think we haven't had/heard enough of it... U r just blah blah blah..

AJQZC SG

While we can suggest long inter-town routes for all we want, under LTA's hub-and-spoke model it is unlikely that such new routes will be feasible unless they offer significant time savings or convenience over the MRT. From Sembawang to CCK/BBT, MRT would be faster than this proposed route unless you're taking this service direct without any transfers, which is unlikely since it mostly connects residential areas.

Between Yishun and Yew Tee/CCK/BBT, most ppl would be heading towards industrial estates, schs like ITE College West or the army camps along Sembawang Rd (Khatib Camp, Chong pang camp etc) or at Yew Tee (Kranji Camp II/III, Mowbray camp). Currently, 171 provides a North-Northwest connection between Yishun and Bt Panjang, serving Sembawang Rd and allowing for transfer to other svcs at Bt Panjang. When DTL is opened, 171 section from BPJ to Orchard/Marina Ctr can be removed, and the route extended to CCK and/or Yew Tee/Bt Batok, providing more inter-town connections. At the moment, I don't think a separate North-Northwest bus route is needed, especially since the general link is already provided by MRT.

Thanks, I'll take that in mind. ;) Instead of North-Northwest, now I propose Central-Northwest-West from the northern corridor. Hence amendments to my old route:

SBST Service 210 - Bishan Int - Bt Batok Bus Depot

23ispolo SG

Well..

1. The only thing u can talk about is how great service 113 is

2. How badly SBST/LTA treat Sv 113

3. How only u find 113 always packed to door.. Whenever anyone else has taken the service, there has been enough space even during peak (multiple users here have taken it given ur constant ranting)

4. 113 needs DDs (May be u wrote 1000 posts just on that). Even if some of us agree 113 needs a fleet add or crossover during peak, we are totally bored to hear anything more on 113

5. How u have said DDs on 101 is waste and should be given to 113 (countless such examples)

so for me if u again want to post about 113 and think we haven't had/heard enough of it... U r just blah blah blah..

Like I said, some people just need to learn to be careful what they post here... (I'm not purely refering to SBS5010P here though)

23ispolo SG

Rude. Very Rude. Self proclaimed BusAnalayzer.

I agree... It's as rude as rolling your eyes at someone.

BusAnalayzer SG

860 actually can start from Sembawang come out from Yishun Ave 1 then loop at its originallooping point..
861 Sembawang-Bukit Batok enough..I dont think theres enough space for SMRT svc there

I believe 860 extension might be reserved for future Canberra area. There are 100+ HDB building coming in Canberra. The ones closest to Canberra Link can have direct access to Canberra MRT stop. Those on the inner streets will need bus service to bring them to Northpoint, Yishun facilities like post, hospital and MRT.

On the other end the service will extend to Sembawang and as you suggested, should start from here and loop around Khatib.

There will also be need for another feeder service within Yishun town once HDB complexes around ave 1, st 51, ave 4 develop. Current services cannot be edited to cater to these demands. This new service should then take care of missing link of 860 between Ring Road and Yishun MRT.

SMB128B SG

I'm talking about SK west way. You mean along fernvale st?

Those at Cheng Lim/Farmway LRT

SMB128B SG

Thanks, I'll take that in mind. ;) Instead of North-Northwest, now I propose Central-Northwest-West from the northern corridor. Hence amendments to my old route:

SBST Service 210 - Bishan Int - Bt Batok Bus Depot

Not encouraged as can be easily confused for pax... Even if feeders only start from 22_ the first digit still holds more significance.

Why not 144?

AJQZC SG

Not encouraged as can be easily confused for pax... Even if feeders only start from 22_ the first digit still holds more significance.

Why not 144?

Not that it really matters, the route number is a lot less important (unless you're a firm believer in feng shui or something), it just came randomly when I was finding a number between 59 and 410. You can number it anything between 1, 68, 108, 144, 150, etc, whatever.

I'm more concerned about the practicality (demand) of the route and how possible it will really be implemented.

SBS3004X SG

I'm more concerned about the practicality (demand) of the route and how possible it will really be implemented.

2x/3x/4x = East area

10x = (Serangoon)

x9 = East/West area

160/170 are JB services, so if 150 is introduced it should be JB as well.

ButIAmAToilet SG

26 could ply Chai Chee St/Dr instead of New Upp Changi Rd. It currently follows 2's and 67's route from Geylang to Bedok. While it is currently their 'support' route, it could help give people in Chai Chee access to Kenbangan MRT.

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